#indieweb 2019-01-18

2019-01-18 UTC
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jacky https://xray.p3k.app/parse?url=http%3A%2F%2F4cd6bcf5.ngrok.io%2Fstream&pretty=true makes a h-feed :) it's crappy but that can be fixed
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jacky you know, I'm thinking about pagination a bit
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jacky and I think I'm going to make each "day" a page
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jacky versus walking over a set amount of posts
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jacky like we group and maintain our lives in such a way
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tw2113 i kind of like that idea
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aaronpk seems reasonable, unless you have like 100 posts in a day
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jacky lol that's something I'm wondering now
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jacky I can _easily_ hit ~100 posts in a day
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aaronpk wow i dont even have that many usually
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jacky especially if I decide to pull in last.fm (slight hope tbh)
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aaronpk oh yeah, that came up the other day
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tw2113 i wish last.fm and amazon music player worked together
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aaronpk i don't remember who it was, but they wanted to combine all their last.fm listens for the day into a single post
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aaronpk i think i might do that myself too, because i'm not sure i like the idea of each listen being its own post interspersed with all my other posts tbh
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jacky yeah that'd be noisy (no pun intended)
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jacky might need an intermediary service that does that condensing
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tw2113 i'm pretty sure life is trying to force me to use spotify
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aaronpk spotify can scrobble to last.fm now! \o/
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tw2113 part of why i'm considering it
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[xavierroy] [aaronpk] it was me who wanted that. https://xavierroy.com/2019/01/15/listens-for-2019-01-15/
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[xavierroy] I used Ifftt to write to a text file from a lastfm feed and then copy the text to a post the next day
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aaronpk oo look at that
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[xavierroy] Manually right now. Still thinking of better presentation
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[xavierroy] Using the last.fm feed is useful.as I listen to songs both on Spotify and Amazon Prime and also local files
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jacky yo random
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jacky anyone has thoughts on this re: micropub and providing custom formats? https://indieweb.org/User%3AJacky.wtf#Format_Detection
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jacky it's a micro-idea
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jacky or rather, something I think I can hack in
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jacky but I'd need a compatible micropub client too
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aaronpk is the intent to have the client do something different with the UI when posting that kind of content?
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jacky yeah - like if the person would prefer to use something like reStructured Text instead of Markdown
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jacky person using the client that is
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aaronpk what obligations does a client have in this picture? for example I am not likely to make Quill do anything special with formats I don't personally use
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jacky but it also saves the client from having to submit straight HTML and lets the server handle the generation of HTML
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jacky so this is part of a bigger ambition to make it easy to have custom tags when sending content via micropub
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aaronpk custom tags? that's already a thing
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jacky something like {% media https://video.jacky.wtf/videos/watch/8aa33007-7345-42f7-be7f-9ad61ef03aed %} in markdown
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aaronpk oh _those_ kinds of tags
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jacky but not having to type in the HTML for it
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jacky yeah
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aaronpk i don't think i've heard those called tags
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jacky liquid (when used with markdown) https://shopify.github.io/liquid/tags/control-flow/ lets you do that
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jacky I might see how much effort it'll take
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jacky but this is largely so I can pass it content and let the server do the mf2 mark up on it without me having to
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aaronpk so, dirty secret, Quill already has a special mode for this basically
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jacky lol
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aaronpk it's kinda hidden since i'm not sure it's the right approach
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jacky so many hidden features
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aaronpk my posts can be stored as plaintext, markdown, or HTML. if the source is text or markdown, my site renders them as HTML using a bunch of rules I've configured like autolinking, etc.
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aaronpk so I needed a way to have quill tell my site that what i'm typing is either plaintext or markdown
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jacky that's the `text/markdown` content type I see sometimes?
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aaronpk yeah
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jacky interesting
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jacky good use case of the overloading
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aaronpk if you reply to a github issue link it enables it automatically. otherwise there's a secret key combo that enables it
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jacky actually
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aaronpk because i have to posse markdown to github, and that's easiest when my post is stored as markdown internally
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jacky :thinking_face:
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jacky I forget that Konversation doesn't convert emoji-text into actual emoji
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aaronpk 🤔
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jacky but yeah, that's probably a more backward-compatible approach using content-ype
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jacky *type
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jacky whomever doesn't handle it just gets text (and probably wouldn't be writing in markdown anyway)
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aaronpk i'm not totally sure this is the best way, but it's been working for me anyway
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aaronpk and i built that a while ago and don't hate it yet, so that's a good sign
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jacky lol right
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aaronpk just like my current website! it finally passed the mark where it's been around longer than previous iterations of my site and i'm not totally annoyed by how it's built now! \o/
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[Rose] So, what's the next thing you'll implement? 😛
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aaronpk oh the list is far too long
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aaronpk i need to build a cloning machine so that i can have more of me around so that i can get more done
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[Rose] Please clone said machine, I need to borrow it 😉
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[Rose] Are you attending PodCon this weekend? (It seems unlikely, however I'm actually in the general vicinity of lots of people this week!)
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aaronpk ooh i am not but i did hear about it
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aaronpk anomalily was almost going to go
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[xavierroy] [aaronpk] Maybe you could expose the option in Quill.. I really would like a generated HTML view when using Quill for trip posts
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aaronpk [xavierroy]: quill's "editor" screen does full HTML already, I haven't thought about adding HTML to the note view
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[xavierroy] I meant for other post types: especially the trip type for posts like this: https://xavierroy.com/2018/09/18/sep-13-17-trip/
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jacky what is trip
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Loqi A trip is a post that describes the act of traveling from a start location to an end location by some mode of transport https://indieweb.org/trip
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aaronpk oh huh, so like you want quill to create HTML for the trip and send that to your site?
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[xavierroy] yes, something like that with the microformats embedded 🙂
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[xavierroy] or an option to copy the HTML from Quill for editing/preview before sending
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aaronpk oof that's an idea
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[Rose] I think we found Aaron's next feature? 😆
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aaronpk i don't need more projects!
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tw2113 yes you do :>
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[xavierroy] 🙂
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jacky lol we gotta take on the things we want
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tw2113 thanks #indieweb, somehow you convinced me to re-visit last.fm and now i'm browsing all the things I listened to from 2008-2014
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tw2113 first full day in the room and y'all already influencing
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jacky :)
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[jgmac1106] good mornin
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Loqi greetings human
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[jgmac1106] <-- is committed to owning his media and avoids paying sharecropping fees for streaming services
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[jgmac1106] Does anyone have a favorite chatroom app for your website: https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/the-six-best-chat-rooms-for-your-site/ going to drop Slack and hypothesis this semester to reduce cognititive load on my learnes
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[jgmac1106] https://indiewebcoursetemplate.glitch.me/chatroom.html
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[voss] jacky++ really enjoyed your "Destination Fediverse" deck on slides.com
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Loqi jacky has 11 karma in this channel over the last year (27 in all channels)
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
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[kevinmarks] Inkstone has more custom post types
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[jgmac1106] What is inkstone?
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Loqi InkStone (formerly MobilePub) is a web app for posting various items to your website using micropub https://indieweb.org/inkstone
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sknebel the question wasn't more custom types, but tricking custom types into endpoints that don't support them
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[kevinmarks] if you put them in the html in content they could make it through, but will be nested in h-entry
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Zegnat Good morning IndieWeb
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sknebel good morning Zegnat
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Zegnat wonders if the chat server died because there was no activity here for 9 hours.
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jeremycherfas I couldn’t get in for a bit. And now it is bedtime.
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[nick] finally got my webmentions/posse working 🙂
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[nick] I can now use my telegram bot to `/tweet` or `/post` a `NoteObject` to my site
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[nick] if I use tweet it'll posse to twitter and if I just use post it'll just be a post.
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[nick] next is getting an `IndieLogin` system working on my domain. indielogin.com doesn't work 😞
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KartikPrabhu aaronpk: ^
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[nick] turns out there's quite a few issues related to signing up apps..
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aaronpk Doesn't work how?
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[nick] I got some bad redirects
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[tantek] hmm - this sounds more like a # dev conversation
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Static Indieweb pt1: Syndicating Content | Max Böck - Frontend Web Developer" https://mxb.at/blog/syndicating-content-to-twitter-with-netlify-functions/ (from https://aaronparecki.com/2019/01/18/18/)
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