#indieweb 2019-01-21

2019-01-21 UTC
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Zegnat Good morning IndieWeb
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jgmac1106 morning zegnat
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jeremycherfas Good morning zegnat and jgmac1106
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Zegnat Anything IndieWeb brewing today?
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jeremycherfas I want to check out GWG's new version of Indpendent Publisher for WP if I get time. But first I need to go through my child theme and see and note what I changed.
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jgmac1106 no IndieWeb for me, need to finish my classes, my book, and have a design brief with a client today….it is supposed to be day off
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jeremycherfas Good luck with that.
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jgmac1106 the book wo’t be done…21 day book challnege even at 4 hours a day wasn’t enough
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jgmac1106 …and I have to re-record ALL my wordpress.com tutorials….Grrrr Gutenberg'
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jgmac1106 …will make a new how to add webmentions…and send a manual in-reply-to post..so I guess that is IndieWeb
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GWG Morning
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Loqi guten morgen
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[smerrill] ahoy hoy
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jeremycherfas Why not just add something saying "Install Classic Editor," for now?
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GWG jeremycherfas?
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GWG Oh... I think I see what comment you were replying to
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mickael Hello, I have started working on a Data Portability Kit to help move your data elsewhere: https://github.com/processone/dpk
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mickael For now only supporting Twitter migration, but working on other sources
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cweiske oh, the ejabberd guys!
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cweiske cool
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Zegnat That looks interesting!
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Zegnat data_portability << [https://github.com/processone/dpk Data Portability Kit], project with the goal to extract “your data in a unified, ready-to-use format” from different [[silo]] export formats
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Loqi ok, I added "[https://github.com/processone/dpk Data Portability Kit], project with the goal to extract “your data in a unified, ready-to-use format” from different [[silo]] export formats" to the "See Also" section of /data_portability https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=55769&oldid=51013
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Loqi [processone] dpk: Analyse & convert data from online services for backup or migration purpose
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mickael I am applying that for my own data, my plan is to move my social account to my own domain ASAP
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mickael Working on Flickr and Instagram at the moment
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mickael Cool bot :)
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mickael For now I am exporting to Markdown, but I am considering moving to HTML instead, as it will give me more flexibility and possibly of me use various HTML extension for semantic info (microdata, microformat, RFDa, etc)
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mickael Any opinion ?
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Zegnat Makes sense if you want to keep certain data relations alive
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mickael ok thanks
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mickael Markdown is too poor for that kind of need
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[kevinmarks] You can always convert html to markdown later
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[kevinmarks] https://pypi.org/project/html2text/
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sknebel that's a bit wonky though, given the variations in markdown dialects. E.g. bridgy uses that for POSSE to github, but Github uses CommonMark, vs this produces closer to the original markdown, so various things break
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mickael_ yes good point, probably Markdown is not "portable" enough
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mickael_ That's text, though, so readable without rendering
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mickael_ But if you plan to render you may get into issues
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hs0ucy Hi, is it possible to send a webmention to multiple targets with only one cURL command?
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sknebel I'd personally keep additional data in some structured format (microformats JSON, some other json format, whatever), and not "rendered" in a document format
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mickael_ Thanks, I will also think about it, as there is such need anyway for dates, and possibly extra info (tags, etc)
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petermolnar sknebel: pandoc
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petermolnar pandoc -to=markdown --from=html
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petermolnar and you can specify the supported markdown things
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aaronpk I've had good luck storing things as html with microformats, since it becomes both a human and machine readable data store
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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snarfed !tell mickael_ cool! i assume you've seen https://granary.io/ and https://xray.p3k.io/ ? we use them a fair amount here for similar use cases
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noorul[m] <freenode_hs0 "Hi, is it possible to send a web"> Hi Soucy, I've sent you mention
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hs0ucy Hi noorul[m] On which URL?
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noorul[m] <freenode_hs0 "Hi noorul On which URL?"> 😮 just one, hugo.soucy.cc
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hs0ucy noorul[m]: ok
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noorul[m] <freenode_hs0 "Hi noorul On which URL?"> It seems, only one page is able to receive webmention,
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noorul[m] <noorul[m] "It seems, only one page is able "> When curled, ur cv page has mention but telegraph is not showing endpoint.
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hs0ucy noorul[m]: Saw your mentions on my Webmentions.io dashboard
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hs0ucy noorul[m]: You can reply/mention to one of my notes: https://hugo.soucy.cc/note ... There it will show with this service https://webmention.herokuapp.com/
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hs0ucy noorul[m]: Like for that note for example https://hugo.soucy.cc/note/2018/12/lisp-is-ugly-not.html
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hs0ucy *my english is so bad*
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[kevinmarks] Hsoucy mention.tech has an endpoint to send webmentions for all links in the h-entry
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hs0ucy [kevinmarks]: +1 thanks
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snarfed also https://telegraph.p3k.io/
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[schmarty] ooh neat, i got a webmention from a quora answer that links to a post of mine. i'm not a quora fan because silos, but am pleasantly surprised to get this webmention.
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snarfed [schmarty]: wait whoa what sent that wm?!
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snarfed i doubt quora itself
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sknebel I assume schmarty has that superfeedr-thing set up?
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[schmarty] i do have that superfeedr thing set up!
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[schmarty] i assume it came through superfeedr
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snarfed ahhh sure
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snarfed superfeedr++
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Loqi superfeedr has 1 karma over the last year
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[schmarty] in my recollection this is the first mention superfeedr has found for me since i set it up... 2+ years ago lol
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jeremycherfas What is superfeedr
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Loqi Superfeedr provides a variety of ways to access real-time feed updates, including a popular PubSubHubbub-0.4 compliant hub https://indieweb.org/Superfeedr
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jeremycherfas Oh yeah, I remember
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hs0ucy noorul[m]: I just sended you a webmention : https://telegraph.p3k.io/webmention/13IutZvY0G9dWyi1Kc/details
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tomasparks I am starting to building my nicknames-cache, is there a way to download pre-formated MF2 data from the silos?
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GWG Not a bad idea for a service
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Zegnat XRay may give jf2 data for some profile URLs?
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GWG Yes, just saying
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snarfed tomasparks: yes! https://granary.io/
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tomasparks snarfed: granary.io dose not have friends or following download options
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snarfed tomasparks: true! those are great feature requests. feel free to file them!
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snarfed (they may already be there)
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mickael sknebel: The advantage of HTML is that there is a lot of tooling and it is quite easy to manipulate
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aaronpk considers showing a few select "most popular posts" on his month permalinks
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aaronpk is jealous of [cleverdevil]'s nice monthly summaries
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sknebel aaronpk: re small changes you miss to make a note about: in code? Some kind of GitHub PESOS?
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aaronpk reviewing my commit messages does usually turn up some small relevant changes, but most often the commits are basically just noise in the context of creating a monthly summary
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sknebel Yeah, and I guess aggregation can't really tell "maintenance" from "interesting change", unless you adopt and remember some scheme to note that...
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aaronpk yeah and at that point i'm better off making a thoughtful post on my site tagged properly
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aaronpk https://aaronparecki.com/tag/p3k is a pretty good log, but I have definitely left out a few things
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