#indieweb 2019-01-21

2019-01-21 UTC
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Zegnat
Good morning IndieWeb
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jgmac1106
morning zegnat
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jeremycherfas
Good morning zegnat and jgmac1106
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Zegnat
Anything IndieWeb brewing today?
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jeremycherfas
I want to check out GWG's new version of Indpendent Publisher for WP if I get time. But first I need to go through my child theme and see and note what I changed.
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jgmac1106
no IndieWeb for me, need to finish my classes, my book, and have a design brief with a client today….it is supposed to be day off
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jeremycherfas
Good luck with that.
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jgmac1106
the book wo’t be done…21 day book challnege even at 4 hours a day wasn’t enough
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jgmac1106
…and I have to re-record ALL my wordpress.com tutorials….Grrrr Gutenberg'
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jgmac1106
…will make a new how to add webmentions…and send a manual in-reply-to post..so I guess that is IndieWeb
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GWG
Morning
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Loqi
guten morgen
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[smerrill]
ahoy hoy
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jeremycherfas
Why not just add something saying "Install Classic Editor," for now?
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GWG
jeremycherfas?
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GWG
Oh... I think I see what comment you were replying to
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mickael
Hello, I have started working on a Data Portability Kit to help move your data elsewhere: https://github.com/processone/dpk
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mickael
For now only supporting Twitter migration, but working on other sources
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cweiske
oh, the ejabberd guys!
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Zegnat
That looks interesting!
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Zegnat
data_portability << [https://github.com/processone/dpk Data Portability Kit], project with the goal to extract “your data in a unified, ready-to-use format” from different [[silo]] export formats
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Loqi
ok, I added "[https://github.com/processone/dpk Data Portability Kit], project with the goal to extract “your data in a unified, ready-to-use format” from different [[silo]] export formats" to the "See Also" section of /data_portability https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=55769&oldid=51013
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Loqi
[processone] dpk: Analyse & convert data from online services for backup or migration purpose
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mickael
I am applying that for my own data, my plan is to move my social account to my own domain ASAP
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mickael
Working on Flickr and Instagram at the moment
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mickael
Cool bot :)
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mickael
For now I am exporting to Markdown, but I am considering moving to HTML instead, as it will give me more flexibility and possibly of me use various HTML extension for semantic info (microdata, microformat, RFDa, etc)
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mickael
Any opinion ?
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Zegnat
Makes sense if you want to keep certain data relations alive
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mickael
ok thanks
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mickael
Markdown is too poor for that kind of need
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[kevinmarks]
You can always convert html to markdown later
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sknebel
that's a bit wonky though, given the variations in markdown dialects. E.g. bridgy uses that for POSSE to github, but Github uses CommonMark, vs this produces closer to the original markdown, so various things break
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mickael_
yes good point, probably Markdown is not "portable" enough
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mickael_
That's text, though, so readable without rendering
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mickael_
But if you plan to render you may get into issues
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hs0ucy
Hi, is it possible to send a webmention to multiple targets with only one cURL command?
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sknebel
I'd personally keep additional data in some structured format (microformats JSON, some other json format, whatever), and not "rendered" in a document format
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mickael_
Thanks, I will also think about it, as there is such need anyway for dates, and possibly extra info (tags, etc)
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petermolnar
sknebel: pandoc
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petermolnar
pandoc -to=markdown --from=html
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petermolnar
and you can specify the supported markdown things
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aaronpk
I've had good luck storing things as html with microformats, since it becomes both a human and machine readable data store
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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snarfed
!tell mickael_ cool! i assume you've seen https://granary.io/ and https://xray.p3k.io/ ? we use them a fair amount here for similar use cases
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noorul[m]
<freenode_hs0 "Hi, is it possible to send a web"> Hi Soucy, I've sent you mention
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hs0ucy
Hi noorul[m] On which URL?
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noorul[m]
<freenode_hs0 "Hi noorul On which URL?"> 😮 just one, hugo.soucy.cc
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hs0ucy
noorul[m]: ok
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noorul[m]
<freenode_hs0 "Hi noorul On which URL?"> It seems, only one page is able to receive webmention,
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noorul[m]
<noorul[m] "It seems, only one page is able "> When curled, ur cv page has mention but telegraph is not showing endpoint.
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hs0ucy
noorul[m]: Saw your mentions on my Webmentions.io dashboard
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hs0ucy
noorul[m]: You can reply/mention to one of my notes: https://hugo.soucy.cc/note ... There it will show with this service https://webmention.herokuapp.com/
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hs0ucy
noorul[m]: Like for that note for example https://hugo.soucy.cc/note/2018/12/lisp-is-ugly-not.html
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hs0ucy
*my english is so bad*
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[kevinmarks]
Hsoucy mention.tech has an endpoint to send webmentions for all links in the h-entry
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hs0ucy
[kevinmarks]: +1 thanks
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[schmarty]
ooh neat, i got a webmention from a quora answer that links to a post of mine. i'm not a quora fan because silos, but am pleasantly surprised to get this webmention.
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snarfed
[schmarty]: wait whoa what sent that wm?!
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snarfed
i doubt quora itself
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sknebel
I assume schmarty has that superfeedr-thing set up?
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[schmarty]
i do have that superfeedr thing set up!
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[schmarty]
i assume it came through superfeedr
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snarfed
ahhh sure
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snarfed
superfeedr++
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Loqi
superfeedr has 1 karma over the last year
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[schmarty]
in my recollection this is the first mention superfeedr has found for me since i set it up... 2+ years ago lol
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jeremycherfas
What is superfeedr
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Loqi
Superfeedr provides a variety of ways to access real-time feed updates, including a popular PubSubHubbub-0.4 compliant hub https://indieweb.org/Superfeedr
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jeremycherfas
Oh yeah, I remember
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hs0ucy
noorul[m]: I just sended you a webmention : https://telegraph.p3k.io/webmention/13IutZvY0G9dWyi1Kc/details
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