#indieweb 2019-02-15

2019-02-15 UTC
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petermolnar when is a gallery a gallery and not an article/post? I mean how much text is allowed? no text, just images?
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Loqi what
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swentel I usually find that distinction hard to make
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swentel I create articles with a lot of images, sometimes a note with one image etc, I wouldn't bother to much :)
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[jgmac1106] If you have published a gallery post put it here https://indieweb.org/gallery
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bradenslen Good Morning
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[jgmac1106] Good morning
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Loqi happy day
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[jgmac1106] Brad can you find some micro.blog gallery pages and them to the wiki.
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[jgmac1106] !tell Cleverdevil can you add your examples of Gallery posts to the wiki?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[jgmac1106] @bradenslen discussing your hunt for third party Comment system in #chat
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jamietanna[m] Morning all!
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jeremycherfas Morning IndieWeb
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jamietanna[m] Is there an automated "conformance suite" for IndieAuth? Looking at getting into implementing my own server, but thought I may start from the angle of creating a automated suite to verify whether it actually compliant
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[jgmac1106] What is selfauth?
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Loqi selfauth is a single user authorization endpoint written in PHP which is easy for anyone to get running https://indieweb.org/selfauth
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[jgmac1106] Nvm an endpoint... But do you need your own server
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sknebel jamietanna[m]: no, there isn't a real test suite yet
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sknebel although aaronpk might have started one
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jamietanna[m] Ah cool, I'll see if he mentions / if I can find anything anywhere on his repos
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[jgmac1106] other idea is implement it and try to log in. Does it work? success
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sknebel sigh
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jamietanna[m] Yeah agreed - but the main thing I'm thinking of is the minutiae of the spec, and making sure all edge cases are covered. This also isn't just for me but to be shared / built with the community
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sknebel the biggest non-obvious trap is IMHO to remember all the content-type and accept: headers, which you need sometimes for compatiblity
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[jgmac1106] sorry jaimetanna and sknebel I misunderstood what you wer discussing, apologize for derailing convo
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bradenslen @jgmac1106 sorry I was surfing third party comments is a stopgap measure for me on MB but needed because IMHO it's not a blog if you don't have the option of comments
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jamietanna[m] Ah np!
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aaronpk jamietanna[m]: I've started pulling together some test cases but nothing production ready yet unfortunately
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Zegnat Good morning IndieWeb
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[jgmac1106] aaronpk swentel when you add a Twitter feed to your social reader do you just drop a link to someone's profile...thinking of making a n "exclusive" list of the 20-30 people I actually talk to and ignore the other 2570 people I follow
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aaronpk Yeah, you can make a Twitter list and add that via granary too
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swentel I use granary/all
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swentel you follow your own timeline basically
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swentel swentel/@all/@app/
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aaronpk My twitter timeline became useless years ago
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aaronpk i guess I could unfollow a bunch of people
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[Vincent] I almost wish Twitter would hard limit the number you could follow. It might reduce the noise and force people to think about which connections matter. But that wouldn’t be a good business model I guess!
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[jgmac1106] not me [Vincent] but I can not follow my own timeline it is useless I gave up on follow a long time ago a follow is a h/t , you follow ideas and not people, I do have 32 columns in Tweetdeck right now
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[jgmac1106] Going to make the list and then add that to granary, thx all
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[jgmac1106] and most of these are for weekly scheduled chats so social readers wouldn't work...need the websub tweetdeck like experience if that could be a thing
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snarfed i actually really like facebook's dual approach of friending vs following for this
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snarfed esp since afaik you can't tell whether a friend follows you or not
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snarfed lets you separate the etiquette of friending vs the personal info mgmt of following
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Zegnat There is no way to check for following, no. To follow is one-sided, to friend is two-sided.
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snarfed Zegnat: you actually can see your FB followers who *aren't* your friends: https://www.facebook.com/martijnvdven/followers
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snarfed you just can't see whether a friend has unfollowed you
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jamietanna[m] Good to know, thanks aaronpk - I'll make a start and will share back to y'all when it's looking like it's getting somewhere
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[kevinmarks] Twitter lists are also handy for nuzzel - you get a feed of news per list
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dougbeal Good morning indieweb
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