#indieweb 2019-02-14

2019-02-14 UTC
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yoshi5551 I'm taking a look at setting up a website for IndieWeb, but I don't have time to get a permanent domain name at the moment.
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yoshi5551 If I end up switching domains at some point, is there any way to associate my new website with the old one?
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mlncn yoshi5551: Pretty sure a permanent redirect is how to do it, but i can't find that documented and dealing with a change of domain seems definitely worth defining
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aaronpk There are some notes here but they could definitely use filling out https://indieweb.org/migration#Domain_Changes
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sl007 Apart from deleting the FOSDEM events (biggest European indieweb event) from the wiki :
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Loqi sl007: [jgmac1106] left you a message 2 weeks ago: can you post when the remote sessions start as a reminder. Would like to join today
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sl007 https://indieweb.org/2019/Vlissingen is now featured in the podcast
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sl007 I can't recommend anyone to sponsor indieweb. Good bye and all the best.
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sl007 https://librelounge.org/episodes/episode-10-fosdem-copyleftconf-and-spritely.html –
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Zegnat Delete FOSDEM events? It is literally at the top of /Events ? Am I missing something, sl007?
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[Rose] I haven't listened to the episode and can't at work right now, what's happening?
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Zegnat Unsure. I too am at work.
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[Rose] (Unsurprising, as we're both in Europe!)
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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petermolnar !tell sl007 he? Who attended? What were the sessions? Where is the photo? Saying "biggest European indieweb event" is... interesting.
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[jgmac1106] https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/02/14/help-save-mozdevnet-protect-the-open-web-stop-the-mdn
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Loqi [Greg McVerry] Help Save @MozDevNet, Protect the Open web, Stop the MDN going to React!
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petermolnar wordpress went react with gutenberg, now this; I really don't like the rising monoculture of it
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petermolnar this is returning to oldschool GUI programming btw, but now on the web, and it's certainly simpler for a coder, but that doesn't make it the correct way
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[jgmac1106] especially if you mission is educating users..not making it easier for your developers
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petermolnar given we've revived webrings... should we also exchange banners?
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[cleverdevil] Good morning, IndieWeb :wave;
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[schmarty] o/ cleverdevil
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jacky petermolnar: I don't even know/think if it (React) is that much simpler
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jacky Vue saved a team I led at my last job weeks of time (we measured it in the ramp up time of the junior devs, how much more we needed (inhouse + outhouse work), and a few other biz factors)
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jacky it's really a factor of what people are willing to invest into
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[jgmac1106] Interesting Automattic added a timeline feed to their social reader, interestingly Eddie who I never followed showed up in my feed, seems to be only titeless notes in my feed
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[eddie] Have you follow [chrisaldrich]? I wonder if he did something with one of my posts? Because I would be surprised if one of my posts appears in the Wordpress ecosystem without someone on Wordpress doing something
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chrisaldrich That sounds very likely.... whose avatar appears on the post?
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chrisaldrich If you follow others who do asides and don't add titles to them, they show up properly in WordPress' reader.
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[jgmac1106] Maybe I followed you in some demo or something, but interesting more to me that WordPress is playing with status update timelines
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chrisaldrich You definitely can subscribe to external feeds on WordPress.com though...
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[jgmac1106] i must have followed eddie at some point. It is just him, but a good overall design
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[jgmac1106] They now break the reader into Articles from people I follow, status/notes from people I follow, and recommended reads across the entire network
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[eddie] ohhhh interesting. Yeah, that looks like my feed
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[eddie] That's nice that they are working to improve and add functionality to their reader
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[jgmac1106] yeah eddie must have followed you in a tutorial or my own hacking about...WP.com is a VERY good social RSS reader I just don't use it
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chrisaldrich I'm looking at a few sample feeds and WP.com's reader is actually quite nice. Sadly their UI for sorting, managing, and maintaining feeds is lacking in comparison with inoreader, feedly, etc.
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chrisaldrich Here's one of the better UI examples I just saw on WordPress.com's feed reader of a note that includes a photo: https://boffosocko.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/wpcom-reader-ui-for-read-post.png
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chrisaldrich Who knew that a read post could be so dense and beautiful at the same time?
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jacky ooh that's an interesting display of it
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[eddie] Oh nice! I like it!
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chrisaldrich eddie weren't you working on a /monthly_recap sort of project? Did you document it or have some links to examples?
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[eddie] Oh Yeah I don't think I put it on the wiki yet
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[eddie] I should
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[eddie] https://eddiehinkle.com/2019/02/
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[eddie] That's an example for the current month
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[eddie] I'll look through and see if I can find a best month to display and add it to /monthly_recap
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chrisaldrich A few things have recently inspired me to think about to do lists, bullet journals, etc. and potentially building those into my own website by extending my list of "itches" https://boffosocko.com/kind/itch/. The key is likely having some useful archive views like monthly recaps...
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[eddie] Interesting. I've been doing a bullet journal approach for to dos lately after I read a book by the bullet journal guy
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[eddie] I definitely think something like that would be helpful with an archive view
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[eddie] I'm interested to hear your thoughts as you think that through
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mcverryj1 https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/pages/my-to-do-list
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mcverryj1 on non teachign days I try my best to track my productivity using Pomodoro and webmentions
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[eddie] haha I like how you used tomatoes to track the Pomodoro (Pomodori? Pomodoros? however your pluralize that)
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jacky pomodori sounds right lol
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mcverryj1 yeah need a pomodoro/to-do micropub client if folks looking for a project
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mcverryj1 but it isn’t that bad to do manually, I took last two weeks office because I am disorganized and forget but wow does productivity suffer when the clock aint in my browser
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mcverryj1 like I will be on irc talking about Pomodoro rather than teaching my classes
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chrisaldrich jgmac1106++ for dedication to IndieWeb over his day job
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Loqi jgmac1106 has 31 karma in this channel over the last year (115 in all channels)
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mcverryj1 my day job is IndieWeb just updated the class: https://edu407.jgregorymcverry.com/
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mcverryj1 decided instead of providing an h-feed of updates for my students to follow I will embed an rss feed of posts since noone uses a social reader
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mcverryj1 can’t wait though to drive everything in a reader, would have tried unicyclic but my first years start on WordPress.com
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mcverryj1 oops forgot my h-card picture gone university “launched a new webiste” but it really doesn’t work it is just a wrapper to point to the old site now at www2…..because everyone knows that…ohh yeah they renamed our wireless network SSL
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mcverryj1 long live higher ed
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jeremycherfas Webiste is a fine job title.
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chrisaldrich eddie: here's an outline. I'll try to move chunks to the wiki shortly. Perhaps under "to do list" or something similar. There's already and indieweb to do hiding there....
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chrisaldrich https://boffosocko.com/2019/02/14/a-sketch-for-an-indieweb-bullet-journal/
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gRegorLove_ ooh
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chrisaldrich Anyone else have monday off for an impromptu indieweb hack day or HWC online meetup?
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chrisaldrich Happy Valentine's Day to everyone btw.
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chrisaldrich What is love?
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Loqi "baby don't hurt me . . . " ♫ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEXWRTEbj1I https://indieweb.org/love
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yaMatt damn you. Now I'm on a total 90s rave trip
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[eddie] [chrisaldrich]++ nice write up!
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Loqi [chrisaldrich] has 18 karma in this channel over the last year (45 in all channels)
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[eddie] [chrisaldrich] I do like how your itches are individual posts on your site. I have an IndieWeb page on my site that is essentially the same as my User profile on indieweb.org, but you can add more detail to itches when they are a full post.
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chrisaldrich I don't do it often, but you can either update those pages as you move along and/or add to them by adding comments as well.
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chrisaldrich GitHub issue queues are much the same way... it's nice to have a mini-history of multiple thoughts and explorations in one place on the way to a particular destination.
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Loqi documentingdecisions has 1 karma over the last year
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snarfed documentingdecisions++
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snarfed really valuable and underrated
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[eddie] Yeah, that makes sense
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[tantek] just reading scrollback from much earlier today - what was sl007 talking about? https://chat.indieweb.org/2019-02-14#t1550128356516000
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Loqi [sl007] Apart from deleting the FOSDEM events (biggest European indieweb event) from the wiki :
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aaronpk oops I missed that this morning
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aaronpk IIRC he was talking about having removed those events from the wiki at some point, before they got added back after they were confirmed
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aaronpk probably -> meta for more on this
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