#indieweb 2019-02-25

2019-02-25 UTC
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[eddie]
manton++ great improvements for Micro.blog!! Looking forward to watching the demo video!
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Loqi
manton has 30 karma in this channel over the last year (63 in all channels)
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aaronpk
video of the demos is up! I cleaned up and re-edited everything so if you were on the choppy livestream today this video has everything in good quality and without all the waiting for people to switch laptops! https://youtu.be/wSu0zbb0ty4
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jacky
aaronpk++ for editing + video work
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Loqi
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sl007
Good morning,
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Loqi
sl007: petermolnar left you a message 1 week, 3 days ago: he? Who attended? What were the sessions? Where is the photo? Saying "biggest European indieweb event" is... interesting.
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sl007
just wanted to mention that IndieWebWeek Vlissingen is featured in this podcast :
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sl007
(please consider to huffduff/subscribe librelounge.org)
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sl007
Initially 7 people had signed in, but nobody showed up.
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sl007
It was realy all free for you incl. transport from AMS/DUS and accomodation [as described]. Organizing was some days but in the end the watertower was huge for 2 people ;)
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sl007
However it was pure fun to hack there with my friend Christopher Lemmer Webber.
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Loqi
happy day
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sl007
We want to do the event again next year before FOSDEM. Indeed not as an indieweb event but as an invitation-only-event for our friends.
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sl007
btw FOSDEM was so cool as well together with the ActivityPub, Mozilla, SOLID and Conservancy people and the OpenSource community of the world. We missed you.
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sl007
If you are interested, just let me know.
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sl007
I just payed for it and organized it hard and it was nice โ€ฆ Ruben and Christopher will meet in Boston again.
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sl007
petermolnar Did you mean https://fosdem.org ?
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Zegnat
Good morning IndieWeb
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Zegnat
First time on IRC since Friday, lets see what you all have been up to this IWC Austin weekend!
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jacky
wow pfrazee was there @ IWC Austin?!
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jacky
that's awesome
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Loqi
ok, I added "/2019/Austin/p2pweb" to the "See Also" section of /Dat https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=57353&oldid=56919
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Loqi
ok, I added "https://indieweb.org/2019/Austin/p2pweb" to the "See Also" section of /Dat https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=57354&oldid=57353
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jeremycherfas
Good morning IndieWeb and zegnat
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jeremycherfas
Really looking forward to aaronpk's edited version of the demos.
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jeremycherfas
Does Loqi find messages in all channels when you speak in one?
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Zegnat
If you mean !tells, that is, those are channel specific
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Zegnat
checks of reading one channelโ€™s backlog and goes back to work
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[jgmac1106]
Good morning all
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jeremycherfas
Morning [jgmac1106]
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Loqi
[indienews/de] New post: "Kontakt" https://notiz.blog/kontakt/
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[jgmac1106]
whhoooooo whoooooo hoooo the Federal IndieWeb grant.... 1.2 million dollars in funding made it through peer review and moved on to the final funding stage.....not awarded yet.....but this is good news
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snarfed
jgmac1106++ fingers crossed!
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Loqi
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jeremycherfas
Super congratulations to [jgmac1106]
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[schmarty]
wow that is exciting
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[jgmac1106]
take back the karma...I think I read the email wrong
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[jgmac1106]
jgmac1106--
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Loqi
[jgmac1106]: You can't karma yourself!
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jeremycherfas
So? What's the update?
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[jgmac1106]
yeah, went unfunded but expected..takes 2-3 submissions..why federal edu research dollars so bad for the web...who knows what picture looks like in 4-5 years
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jeremycherfas
Sorry; you must be disappointed.
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[jgmac1106]
for ten minutes, then I brush off and try again
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[manton]
It's interesting to view Micro.blog in both Monocle and Together. Because we put the "Mentions" as the notifications channel, they appear under the bell icon in Together. I guess that's correct.
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Loqi
[manton]: [schmarty] left you a message 2 weeks, 4 days ago: I just watched the custom theme video tutorial. So powerful! Really awesome work!!
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[eddie]
[manton] Yep! That's absolutely correct
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[eddie]
having used both Microsub apps and Micro.blog's app
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[manton]
To be clear, I meant "correct" as in "what users will expect". Definitely works as implemented. ๐Ÿ™‚
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[eddie]
๐Ÿ˜† understood
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[eddie]
It's what I would expect as a Micro.blog user
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[eddie]
although I'm not ever user ๐Ÿ™‚
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[eddie]
every*
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[grantcodes]
That's awsome [manton]! Let me know of any changes you think might be of use
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[manton]
[grantcodes] Thanks! The one thing that [aaronpk] and I were talking about this weekend is that ideally a Microsub client should query q=config on the Micropub endpoint to see what post types the server supports. Aaron uses that to hide "like" and "repost" buttons, for example, and I think Together could probably do that too.
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[grantcodes]
It's mentioned in the spec (I think) that the notifications channel should be displayed differently: hence the bell
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[grantcodes]
Yeah makes sense. Only reservation with that would be the number of sites that support likes and reposts without exposing it to the q=config
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[eddie]
[grantcodes] If q=config doesn't respond you default to all
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[eddie]
but if q=config provides a response, then you limit to those items
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[grantcodes]
Oh perfect
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aaronpk
yep best of both worlds
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aaronpk
quill has done that for a while, and I just added it to Monocle this weekend
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GWG
I need to add that to Post Kinds and Micropub
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GWG
And Q=LAST
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[manton]
Probably time to promote that Micropub extension to a more formal page on the wiki and/or spec so it's easier to find. I think it is mostly documented in GitHub right now.
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GWG
We have bunch of proposed queries I'd like to see further adopted
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Loqi
Countdown set by chrisaldrich on 2019-02-22 at 1:24pm PST
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petermolnar
re when-twitter-thread-fly-away yeah, welcome to the club of photographers; it's been like that for decades there
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petermolnar
but in that case, they only reshare the image, not the screenshot, so not even a name is visible in most cases
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[jgmac1106]
petermolnar A: why I make a photography credit page prominent on my blog B: if you want to own and control your content get a website and not Twitter... I stay off hacker news... But was tempted by the of you don't want content crawled don't put content on the web
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petermolnar
it doesn't matter, if you have a website
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petermolnar
people genuinely believe if they find an image on google image search without watermark, it's free to use
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[jgmac1106]
Google has made this harder.. And we didn't bake expectation of attribution into our tools
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petermolnar
what if it's an actual copyrighted thing? of nc-by-nd, like my image?
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[jgmac1106]
...if aftter every G upload in WP a box popped up that said, Would you like to give the artist credit? Things would be different
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petermolnar
I'm not OK with attribution only
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petermolnar
... unless you mean giving credit is paying for use
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petermolnar
eg. buzzfeed
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[jgmac1106]
Well if I am a non profit, give you credit, and don't change it..am okay
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[jgmac1106]
Buzzfeed using a NC-by-nd would be a violation of license..unless we get into murky fair use.. My rule do best to try and give thx to those who support the Commons
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petermolnar
https://much.isds.tugraz.at/projects/hyper-g/10.htm/ - yellow box: "Why the Web Won't Work" - 1995, and mentiones linkrot, I'm impressed
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petermolnar
there is no fair use with CC
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petermolnar
buzzfeed is for proti
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[jgmac1106]
Petermolnar..... Then we would get into international copyright laws... In US.. Fair 7se refers to practice regardless of license chosen... Yes buzzfeed should not use anything with NC....
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[jgmac1106]
But if they did cost you a ton more to fight than ignore
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[jgmac1106]
Just thought the article portrayed such a misunderstanding... Don't profit off of work by using said work in away that does not violate the ToS of where I published it....want to own your stuff. Then don't sign away royalty free rights by using Twitter
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