#indieweb 2019-02-25

2019-02-25 UTC
[schmarty], Guest44, [deeden], [tantek] and [eddie] joined the channel
#
[eddie] manton++ great improvements for Micro.blog!! Looking forward to watching the demo video!
#
Loqi manton has 30 karma in this channel over the last year (63 in all channels)
gRegorLove, [schmarty], rEnr3n, snarfed, anglophilic, barpthewire and seekr joined the channel
#
aaronpk video of the demos is up! I cleaned up and re-edited everything so if you were on the choppy livestream today this video has everything in good quality and without all the waiting for people to switch laptops! https://youtu.be/wSu0zbb0ty4
wolftune joined the channel
#
jacky aaronpk++ for editing + video work
#
Loqi aaronpk has 38 karma in this channel over the last year (264 in all channels)
sl007 joined the channel
#
sl007 Good morning,
#
Loqi sl007: petermolnar left you a message 1 week, 3 days ago: he? Who attended? What were the sessions? Where is the photo? Saying "biggest European indieweb event" is... interesting.
#
sl007 just wanted to mention that IndieWebWeek Vlissingen is featured in this podcast :
#
sl007 https://librelounge.org/episodes/episode-10-fosdem-copyleftconf-and-spritely.html
#
sl007 (please consider to huffduff/subscribe librelounge.org)
#
sl007 Initially 7 people had signed in, but nobody showed up.
#
sl007 It was realy all free for you incl. transport from AMS/DUS and accomodation [as described]. Organizing was some days but in the end the watertower was huge for 2 people ;)
#
sl007 However it was pure fun to hack there with my friend Christopher Lemmer Webber.
#
Loqi happy day
#
sl007 We want to do the event again next year before FOSDEM. Indeed not as an indieweb event but as an invitation-only-event for our friends.
#
sl007 btw FOSDEM was so cool as well together with the ActivityPub, Mozilla, SOLID and Conservancy people and the OpenSource community of the world. We missed you.
#
sl007 If you are interested, just let me know.
#
sl007 I just payed for it and organized it hard and it was nice … Ruben and Christopher will meet in Boston again.
wolftune joined the channel
#
jacky don't forget photos https://indieweb.org/2019/Austin#Day_1!
sl007 joined the channel
#
sl007 petermolnar Did you mean https://fosdem.org ?
KartikPrabhu, cweiske, jihaisse and seekr joined the channel
#
Zegnat Good morning IndieWeb
#
Zegnat First time on IRC since Friday, lets see what you all have been up to this IWC Austin weekend!
#
jacky wow pfrazee was there @ IWC Austin?!
#
jacky that's awesome
#
jacky Dat << /2019/Austin/p2pweb
#
Loqi ok, I added "/2019/Austin/p2pweb" to the "See Also" section of /Dat https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=57353&oldid=56919
#
jacky err
#
jacky Dat << https://indieweb.org/2019/Austin/p2pweb
#
Loqi ok, I added "https://indieweb.org/2019/Austin/p2pweb" to the "See Also" section of /Dat https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=57354&oldid=57353
IRCsum, KartikPrabhu and jeremych_ joined the channel
#
jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb and zegnat
#
jeremycherfas Really looking forward to aaronpk's edited version of the demos.
#
jeremycherfas Does Loqi find messages in all channels when you speak in one?
#
Zegnat Nope
#
Zegnat If you mean !tells, that is, those are channel specific
#
jeremycherfas Thanks.
#
Zegnat checks of reading one channel’s backlog and goes back to work
[pfefferle], swentel, [grantcodes], anotheryou, catsup and [jgmac1106] joined the channel
#
[jgmac1106] Good morning all
iasai, jgmac1106, botka, [tantek] and jeremych_ joined the channel
#
jeremycherfas Morning [jgmac1106]
[kevinmarks], [Rose], xtof, [schmarty], jgmac1106, [jgmac1106], eli_oat, Guest44, [pfefferle], snarfed, IRCsum, gRegorLove, [manton], barpthewire, [Vincent], tbbrown, wolftune and [tantek] joined the channel
#
Loqi [indienews/de] New post: "Kontakt" https://notiz.blog/kontakt/
IRCsum, [eddie], jackjamieson, [davidmead], [chrisaldrich], jgmac1106, snarfed, botka and [kevinmarks] joined the channel
#
[jgmac1106] whhoooooo whoooooo hoooo the Federal IndieWeb grant.... 1.2 million dollars in funding made it through peer review and moved on to the final funding stage.....not awarded yet.....but this is good news
#
snarfed jgmac1106++ fingers crossed!
#
Loqi jgmac1106 has 32 karma in this channel over the last year (119 in all channels)
#
[davidmead] wow
#
jeremycherfas Super congratulations to [jgmac1106]
[schmarty] joined the channel
#
[schmarty] wow that is exciting
#
[jgmac1106] take back the karma...I think I read the email wrong
#
[jgmac1106] jgmac1106--
#
Loqi [jgmac1106]: You can't karma yourself!
#
jeremycherfas So? What's the update?
wolftune, aalmazan and snarfed joined the channel
#
[jgmac1106] yeah, went unfunded but expected..takes 2-3 submissions..why federal edu research dollars so bad for the web...who knows what picture looks like in 4-5 years
KartikPrabhu joined the channel
#
jeremycherfas Sorry; you must be disappointed.
blassin, KartikPrabhu and wolftune joined the channel
#
[jgmac1106] for ten minutes, then I brush off and try again
[manton] joined the channel
#
[jgmac1106] not sure I agree but this interesting: http://www.erynnbrook.com/when-twitter-threads-fly-away/
[eddie] and snarfed joined the channel
#
[manton] It's interesting to view Micro.blog in both Monocle and Together. Because we put the "Mentions" as the notifications channel, they appear under the bell icon in Together. I guess that's correct.
#
Loqi [manton]: [schmarty] left you a message 2 weeks, 4 days ago: I just watched the custom theme video tutorial. So powerful! Really awesome work!!
leg joined the channel
#
aaronpk nice
#
[eddie] [manton] Yep! That's absolutely correct
#
[eddie] having used both Microsub apps and Micro.blog's app
#
[manton] To be clear, I meant "correct" as in "what users will expect". Definitely works as implemented. 🙂
#
[eddie] 😆 understood
#
[eddie] It's what I would expect as a Micro.blog user
#
[eddie] although I'm not ever user 🙂
#
[eddie] every*
[grantcodes] joined the channel
#
[grantcodes] That's awsome [manton]! Let me know of any changes you think might be of use
#
[manton] [grantcodes] Thanks! The one thing that [aaronpk] and I were talking about this weekend is that ideally a Microsub client should query q=config on the Micropub endpoint to see what post types the server supports. Aaron uses that to hide "like" and "repost" buttons, for example, and I think Together could probably do that too.
#
[grantcodes] It's mentioned in the spec (I think) that the notifications channel should be displayed differently: hence the bell
#
[grantcodes] Yeah makes sense. Only reservation with that would be the number of sites that support likes and reposts without exposing it to the q=config
#
[eddie] [grantcodes] If q=config doesn't respond you default to all
#
[eddie] but if q=config provides a response, then you limit to those items
#
[grantcodes] Oh perfect
#
aaronpk yep best of both worlds
#
aaronpk quill has done that for a while, and I just added it to Monocle this weekend
kisik21 joined the channel
#
GWG I need to add that to Post Kinds and Micropub
#
GWG And Q=LAST
#
[manton] Probably time to promote that Micropub extension to a more formal page on the wiki and/or spec so it's easier to find. I think it is mostly documented in GitHub right now.
#
aaronpk true
jackjamieson, kisik21, snarfed and singpolyma joined the channel
#
[eddie] Ohh yeah, it could be added here: https://indieweb.org/Micropub-extensions#Query
[gRegorLove] joined the channel
#
GWG We have bunch of proposed queries I'd like to see further adopted
Kaja, snarfed, [schmarty], Zegnat, sknebel, [cleverdevil], [manton], [Collin_Kunisch] and [tantek] joined the channel
#
Loqi chrisaldrich should update https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?title=next_IndieWebCamp&redirect=no to redirect to /2019/Online
#
Loqi Countdown set by chrisaldrich on 2019-02-22 at 1:24pm PST
#
petermolnar re when-twitter-thread-fly-away yeah, welcome to the club of photographers; it's been like that for decades there
#
petermolnar but in that case, they only reshare the image, not the screenshot, so not even a name is visible in most cases
[jgmac1106] joined the channel
#
[jgmac1106] petermolnar A: why I make a photography credit page prominent on my blog B: if you want to own and control your content get a website and not Twitter... I stay off hacker news... But was tempted by the of you don't want content crawled don't put content on the web
#
petermolnar it doesn't matter, if you have a website
#
petermolnar people genuinely believe if they find an image on google image search without watermark, it's free to use
#
[jgmac1106] Google has made this harder.. And we didn't bake expectation of attribution into our tools
[keithjgrant] joined the channel
#
petermolnar what if it's an actual copyrighted thing? of nc-by-nd, like my image?
#
Loqi http://meme.loqi.me/m/4zCbaAZV.jpg
#
[jgmac1106] ...if aftter every G upload in WP a box popped up that said, Would you like to give the artist credit? Things would be different
#
petermolnar I'm not OK with attribution only
#
petermolnar ... unless you mean giving credit is paying for use
#
petermolnar eg. buzzfeed
#
[jgmac1106] Well if I am a non profit, give you credit, and don't change it..am okay
barpthewire joined the channel
#
[jgmac1106] Buzzfeed using a NC-by-nd would be a violation of license..unless we get into murky fair use.. My rule do best to try and give thx to those who support the Commons
#
petermolnar https://much.isds.tugraz.at/projects/hyper-g/10.htm/ - yellow box: "Why the Web Won't Work" - 1995, and mentiones linkrot, I'm impressed
#
petermolnar there is no fair use with CC
#
petermolnar buzzfeed is for proti
#
petermolnar profit
snarfed joined the channel
#
[jgmac1106] Petermolnar..... Then we would get into international copyright laws... In US.. Fair 7se refers to practice regardless of license chosen... Yes buzzfeed should not use anything with NC....
#
[jgmac1106] But if they did cost you a ton more to fight than ignore
#
[jgmac1106] Just thought the article portrayed such a misunderstanding... Don't profit off of work by using said work in away that does not violate the ToS of where I published it....want to own your stuff. Then don't sign away royalty free rights by using Twitter
snarfed, jjuran_, [cleverdevil], [manton], [grantcodes], [Collin_Kunisch], iasai, [eddie], IRCsum, [aaronpk], andersju, jackjamieson, KartikPrabhu, raucao and masterdonx joined the channel