#indieweb 2019-02-24

2019-02-24 UTC
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chrisaldrich You can, though I don't spend much time in IG.
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chrisaldrich In fact, that reminds me that I should fix my posts from Instagram to continue feeding back to my site...
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[tantek] [cleverdevil] can you recommend any Dreamhost starter deals for web hosting?
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[cleverdevil] Hmm, [tantek], they were cycling promos pretty frequently when I left.
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[cleverdevil] You may have luck with code “777,” which was a long time promo.
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[cleverdevil] Other than that, no recommendations on deals!
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[tantek] Thank you!
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[cleverdevil] 👍
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aaronpk good evening indieweb! I edited and published this morning's two keynotes! if you missed them they are here! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdDfAaYy0_U (i also fixed the audio that was bad on the stream)
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rayna Who gave the shoutout to https://asciinema.org/ this morning? John something? I gave it a try, made a screen cast, and wrote a blog post! I'd like to know who to attribute thanks... http://www.raynamharris.com/blog/asciinema/
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aaronpk rayna++ awesome!
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Loqi rayna has 2 karma over the last year
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rayna :)
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gRegorLove rayna, it was John but I never got his last name or a personal site, just the kubash one and Texas Norml
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JVL1 @rayna Awesome, yes indeed that was something we use heavily with kubash.org and other projects
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JVL1 i'm taking the dive on the indieweb plugins and tools, i worry about adding resource usage to a site like texasnorml.org with the current traffic i mentioned but started testing with one of the many dormant domains I had
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JVL1 using https://indieweb.org/User:Proactivestoner.com for testing
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jacky aaronpk++
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Loqi aaronpk has 35 karma in this channel over the last year (259 in all channels)
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jacky rayna++
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Loqi rayna has 3 karma over the last year
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[tantek] rayna++ that is too cool
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Loqi rayna has 4 karma over the last year
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[tantek] I'm looking at color gradients in a photo I took yesterday morning and they don't look real
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[tantek] like that thing where you stare at a word too long and it looks misspelled
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jacky https://v2.jacky.wtf/post/078cf882-62f5-4b38-b011-3cca2047334e
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Loqi [Jacky Alcine] I had some notes after the last time I went to a HWC meetup about a “live posting” tool. The idea was that for an event post (ideally on my site), I’d associate it with a ‘hashtag’ ideally unique to the event and have those related posts ap...
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[tantek] jacky have you seen kevinmarks's noterlive?
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[tantek] what is noterlive
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Loqi Noter Live is an open source live-noting tool by Kevin Marks that posts to Twitter and compiles the notes for posting as a full post https://indieweb.org/noterlive
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jacky oh wow, this looks like it
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jacky hm, I didn't want to have to anchor a hashtag tho
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jacky but this concept is essential the same
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jacky takes notes
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chrisaldrich rayna++ for making the jump from http://raynamharris.github.io/ to http://www.raynamharris.com/ today.
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Loqi rayna has 5 karma over the last year
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jacky congrats rayna!
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aaronpk ohh nice! finished a day 2 project before day 2 even started!
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[tantek] alright I'm giving in to IG multiphoto limitation annoyance and going to make two multiphoto posts instead of one because I can't stand to square crop either the landscape *or* the portrait photos from the same morning (each of which was taken in a row so splitting them up also does so according to temporal clustering, ~15 min apart)
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Simple Location 3.6.0 Released" https://david.shanske.com/2019/02/23/simple-location-3-6-0-released/
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[tantek] GWG++
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Loqi GWG has 27 karma in this channel over the last year (164 in all channels)
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GWG [tantek]: I finished geofencing
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[tantek] whoa!
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[tantek] amazing
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[tantek] btw does anyone else pre-check their hashtags before tweeting? to make sure they don't link to somethings undesirable?
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tw2113 i hashtag less than i could
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[tantek] and apparently hashtags of the six primary+secondary colors are all oddly soothing
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[kevinmarks] You don't have to anchor a hashtag, it just prefixes the notes with that field, so you can clear it.
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[kevinmarks] Making noterlive.com work with micropub as well as twitter is a longstanding issue
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
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sknebel good morning jeremycherfas!
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jeremycherfas Hi sknebel Anything planned to show at IWC remnote?
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sknebel we'll see. I might do some work on multi-language posts, but not sure yet
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jeremycherfas I'm trying to migrate from Mailchimp to Buttondown before I have to send my newsletter out tomorrow. That's sort of indie, but not very.
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jgmac1106 Good morning IndieWeb…back to learning about LowDB and SQLite
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jgmac1106 !tell kevinmarks,jacky noterlive is great, use it a ton there is an open issue to add a parser so if I dropped in someone’s name it would find the persons Twitter handle
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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jgmac1106 !tell JVL1 sounds like a cool project. I am on a mission to get all of shakedown off of instagram and on to vendor websites
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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jgmac1106 !tell tantek I wrote up a post on why to me IFPS and p2p not a new fad but the original dream of my web
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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jgmac1106 but I am just starting to learn how IFPS works and need to go and really watch snarfed video from 2017 on why DNS and file storage better
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[dave] G’Morning from Austin, IndieWeb.
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jgmac1106 TX starting to wake up
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jgmac1106 I am trying to get through the intros befor hackday begins
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[tantek] [jgmac1106] great! Would be good to add your IPFS blog post to /IPFS
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Loqi [tantek]: jgmac1106 left you a message 2 hours, 45 minutes ago: I wrote up a post on why to me IFPS and p2p not a new fad but the original dream of my web
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[tantek] Curious what your thoughts are about IPFS and /longevity
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jgmac1106 I don’t know yet, but its always kinda been a dream some of the seeds here are decades old, p2p has longevity: http://bt.etree.org/
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jgmac1106 there aren’t that many truly really old original seeds, but those files live on somewhere else…like I said just learning. Going back to watch snarfed videoo as well
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jgmac1106 but I have always wanted the read write browser experience, so my curiousity mixed up in stuff like Beaker
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jgmac1106 never understood why broswers weren’t also the write tools….but I never really understood how the tech worked
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[tantek] Because to write you have to support an authentication / identity system. Which browsers still haven’t agreed on
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jgmac1106 I get that in Beaker…its the utlimate remix machine and when you combine it with idea that the data is spread everywhere so no one can take you down (well can always cut a pipe)
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[tantek] Extra work, plus no standard = didn’t get done
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jgmac1106 ahh okaybut I just want go file>new>post
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[tantek] There will always be the question of where do you save it?
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jgmac1106 so just starting to learn about ifps, not installing the plugin, don’t have time for that ye
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[tantek] I think the offline read/write case is particularly interesting
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jgmac1106 and its just another server I am signing onto….just a matter do I want Humpty Dumpty sitting on mine or have all his pieces all over the place
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jgmac1106 tantek when I was on some project called “north star: or “guidning star” with Mozilla we talked about the proposed membership a lot. i said it would be cool if I knew A: I got a domain, and two mozillians could also get domains, and then we could have a browser extension that let you blog from firefox
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[tantek] [jgmac1106] can you find any remnants of that project e.g. on WikiMo?
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jgmac1106 maybe my email….hard to know where Mozilla works now…its all double super handshake secret slack channels
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jgmac1106 Dave Ascher was on the team, we met like three times, hard to say project unless it was bigger, most if not all is NDAd
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jgmac1106 I forgot that part, scratch I said anything, but you can find reference of Mozilla sponsoring a Domain as membership on my blog oustide NDA
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jgmac1106 True North
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jgmac1106 that what it was called…talk about owning data…I lost my NDA..I cant log in to Discourse
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jgmac1106 not lost I am “alumni status”
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jgmac1106 either way no I can’t update the wiki
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kisik21 any good indieweb-related packages for emacs?
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dougbeal !tell jon1 I like that WordPress with the IndieWeb plugins just works
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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dougbeal G'morning indieweb
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corntoole good morning from indiewebcampatx
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[tantek] good morning!
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Loqi guten morgen
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dougbeal I'm on https://meet.indieweb.org/AustinRemote if anyone wants to join.
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[jgmac1106] nvm just saw link
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jacky [jgmac1106]: I think I can get what I want without that tool
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Loqi jacky: jgmac1106 left you a message 8 hours, 14 minutes ago: noterlive is great, use it a ton there is an open issue to add a parser so if I dropped in someone’s name it would find the persons Twitter handle
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jacky using just mentions + some dynamic page layouts = should work
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jacky (mentioned that at the end of https://v2.jacky.wtf/post/078cf882-62f5-4b38-b011-3cca2047334e)
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Loqi [Jacky Alcine] I had some notes after the last time I went to a HWC meetup about a “live posting” tool. The idea was that for an event post (ideally on my site), I’d associate it with a ‘hashtag’ ideally unique to the event and have those related posts ap...
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jgmac1106 jacky that’s brilliant
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jgmac1106 “JavaScript hydration on the client’s side to pull in HTML partials “ is what I am trying to learn right now, but is all pretty devy should move there
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jgmac1106 hey continuing our chat room do youthink a websub walkie talkie tool could be built
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jgmac1106 like you only get like 5-10 seconds of audio
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jgmac1106 be able share walkie talkie channels with different people or different web rings
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jacky maybe?
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GWG jgmac1106: You recommend Reclaim to people for WordPress hosting.
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GWG Right?
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[jgmac1106] Yes
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[jgmac1106] The only thing is delete the cookies for comments plugin
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GWG [jgmac1106]: How did it do with Indieauth?
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[jgmac1106] 8t puts a 1px by 1px img in post that mess with parsers
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[jgmac1106] Awesome
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[jgmac1106] I have my htaccess file for anyone to see
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[jgmac1106] I think all those bugs long in the past
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[jgmac1106] Happy to hop on a call and do demo, can launch any number of apps
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jgmac1106 gwg just realized my SemPress WP tutorial is a soup to notes how to get started on Reclaim, you can share that
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tbbrown jgmac1106: where can i find your htaccess file?
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jgmac1106 one sec
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jgmac1106 hrmm saved over it a bunch trying to fix redirects…might be: https://gist.github.com/jgmac1106/7a473d25bcefa97f799c884bd02e081a
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jgmac1106 if you need any help though the team will hop in
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tbbrown one of those rules addresses allowing authorization header?
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tbbrown i guess there's nothing in there that prevents it
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jgmac1106 ooh and I keep zegnats header test on my server somewhere from when this problem, happened. Tim Owens will be happy to help if you get stuck
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jgmac1106 https://gist.github.com/jgmac1106/7a473d25bcefa97f799c884bd02e081a/revisions I think this is the before and after from what people here told me to do
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tbbrown cool
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tbbrown that htaccess file seems to work but i also needed to add RewriteRule .* - [E=HTTP_AUTHORIZATION:%{HTTP:Authorization}]
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tbbrown to get the authorization header test to pass
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jgmac1106 tbbrown++
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Loqi tbbrown has 1 karma over the last year
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corntoole request for feedback on the markup for a blog archive microformat https://gist.github.com/corntoole/7da7c29144913fd0f56e956a3e2d7b56
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jgmac1106 discovered somethign about Ownyourgram and instagram, if you change your email address in your instagram profile you must verify it again for OYG to work
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aaronpk whoa weird
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jgmac1106 probably smart
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jgmac1106 but I could manually post and reconnect after verifying
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jgmac1106 aaronpk is video supposed to work with OYG?
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Loqi [indienews] New post: https://gregorlove.com/2019/02/my-two-projects-for-todays/
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aaronpk yeah
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aaronpk that's actually the only way videos can end up on my site right now really
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jgmac1106 mine are failing, will dig in here is how the video stores locally: https://blog.kevo.glass/file/45c7026c29e9fd92f53fb05b710497e2/53182887_386598762167529_6317147523702063104_n.mp4
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Kaja_ [youtube] new Indiewebcamp stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijK9OgwanLU
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dougbeal aaronpk++ all in on emoji, and matching with photos
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Loqi aaronpk has 36 karma in this channel over the last year (260 in all channels)
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gRegorLove demo time!
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gRegorLove aaronpk has an emoji page with his most-used emoji
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jgmac1106 thatis awesome
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gRegorLove ...updated his profile photo, but also updated his posts that use emojis so his profile photo on the post matches, e.g pizza emoji has him eating pizza
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gRegorLove ... click through emoji on https://aaronparecki.com/emoji for exampls
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Loqi Aaron Parecki
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[asuh] that’s amazing aaronpk++
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Loqi aaronpk has 37 karma in this channel over the last year (261 in all channels)
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gRegorLove ... if you follow his mf2 feed, you'll get these photos in your reader
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gRegorLove what is mood?
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Loqi mood is sometimes expressed explicitly in or about a post, by the post author https://indieweb.org/mood
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gRegorLove up next: tantek
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gRegorLove ... migrated a few domains today
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gRegorLove ... migrated amazon URL shortener, asin.cc
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gRegorLove ... as part of migration, got https!
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gRegorLove ... the shortlinks it generates also have https
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gRegorLove ... one of seven domains he's confirmed that migrated today.
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gRegorLove ... shows migrated h2vx.com, now with https
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gRegorLove up next: Rayna Harris
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gRegorLove ... accomplished a bunch of tiny things on her site
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gRegorLove ... no longer at github, got a domain: raynamharris.com
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gRegorLove ... (page is still at github, just set a custom domain)
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gRegorLove ... added a photo and an h-card
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gRegorLove ... the footer was only working on one page, fixed so it works across all pages
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gRegorLove ... played with some CSS themes, fixed the heading sizes
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[kevinmarks] I'm nervous about the eggplant emoji
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Loqi [kevinmarks]: jgmac1106 left you a message 12 hours, 13 minutes ago: noterlive is great, use it a ton there is an open issue to add a parser so if I dropped in someone’s name it would find the persons Twitter handle
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gRegorLove ... the blog she did the most work on. Wrote a post yesterday about using asciinema
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gRegorLove ... text-based screenshare so you can copy/paste command line stuff
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gRegorLove ... used the IWC wiki to find other Jekyll people with a share section, added a "post on twitter" link, a "reply on twitter", "copy the permalink", an disqus comments
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gRegorLove up next: me
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aaronpk first project was to write stuff, and did
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GWG gRegorLove's goal was to write, so he did
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aaronpk then made a gallery view that is responsive with cssgrid
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GWG aaronpk beat me to it
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aaronpk gregorlove.com
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GWG Go read all about it
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gRegorLove up next: davegoesthedistance.com
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gRegorLove ... added product microformats
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gRegorLove ... started adding list of friends at the bottom of the page and /XFN
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gRegorLove ... started upgrading mf1 to mf2 on thegriddle.net and fixing some bugs, hopes to have it ready to in next week or so
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gRegorLove up next: stephenbowling.com
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gRegorLove ... started a plugin to authorize through his own website, using a local copy of micropub.rocks as a demo
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gRegorLove up next: Isaiah @Isaiah on Twitter, Instagram, micro.blog
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gRegorLove ... blogs about his development
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gRegorLove ... working on a client for micro.blog
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gRegorLove ... shows signin mechanism with Kiwi
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gRegorLove ... https://isaiah.micro.blog
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gRegorLove ... client has a nice narrow view for micro.blog, similar to oldschool twitter client
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gRegorLove ... sometimes some big pictures and they don't fit well in the timeline
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gRegorLove ... slurping up HTML, parsing images so he can output it anyway he wants... made some progress on that today, doesn't have a demo of it
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gRegorLove ... hopefully available for download soon!
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gRegorLove up next: manton.org
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gRegorLove ... yesterday's session on linkrot reminded him he wanted to work on micro.blog import/export
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gRegorLove ... worked on a format called blog archive
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gRegorLove ... exports in this format, uploads to S3
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gRegorLove ... it's a zip file with two files: index.html, jsonfeed, and a photos folder
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gRegorLove ... HTML has plain layout, but mf2
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gRegorLove ... all posts have relative paths for the folder
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gRegorLove ... idea is there is a usable format (you can look at it) but it's also machine readable
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gRegorLove ... second thing he worked on is adding microsub support to mb as a server
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gRegorLove ... sign into monocle account with mb
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gRegorLove ... timeline, mentions, and favorites show up in monocle
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gRegorLove ... only supports new posts now, not old posts, so you can't scroll back far
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gRegorLove ... added in-reply-to functionality, so can reply directly from mb
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gRegorLove up next: Collin
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gRegorLove ... made a rough video recap of this event
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gRegorLove ... got a logo animation, intends to have some voiceover
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gRegorLove up next: Tom Brown, herestomwiththeweather.com
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gRegorLove ... started documenting an easy way to get set up with WordPress and a reader
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Kaja_ [youtube] new Indiewebcamp stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmdUviI6EYQ
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gRegorLove ... ran into some issues with Dreamhost, went back to Reclaim Hosting
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gRegorLove ... hoping to have something to recommend to get set up with a reader quickly
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gRegorLove up next: Cornelius
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gRegorLove ... his easy task today was connecting micro.blog to his domain
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aaronpk micro.corntoole.com
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gRegorLove ... working on blog archive format
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gRegorLove ... starting point was whatever the host gives you, since you don't usually have a choice
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gRegorLove ... found a feed-into-json project and forked it
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gRegorLove ... grabs an RSS feed from Micro Mondays
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gRegorLove ... and it will spit out index.html, index.json
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gRegorLove ... shows the resulting HTML
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gRegorLove ... shows the template he's using for the HTML markup. Posted a link in chat and would welcome feedback.
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gRegorLove ... with audio and even images, you can get into some big filesizes. Might need to export HTML first then addon tools to incrementally download assets
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gRegorLove up next: GWG
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gRegorLove ... shows logging in to Quill
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gRegorLove ... much to his disappointment, there's no picture of the logged-in user on Quill
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gRegorLove ... submitted a PR that adds it on the Quill homepage when you're logged in
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gRegorLove ... the indieauth endpoint returns the name and photo of the user
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gRegorLove ... also added geofencing, within the fenced area won't show the precise location, just a name like "home"
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gRegorLove ... made a bunch of fixes to code used by [[Yarns]]
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GWG gRegorLove: Code also used by Post Kinds
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gRegorLove up next: idk.su
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GWG And available separately
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gRegorLove ... may be DNS issues. "It works on my phone"
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gRegorLove ... landing page for his email address
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gRegorLove end of demos!
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jacky (thank you gRegorLove)
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[jgmac1106] congrats all, exctied to watch the video
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