#indieweb 2019-02-23

2019-02-23 UTC
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j605 > description = "Hugo Templates are driving me mad, so I decided to create my own."
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j605 how apt
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[kevinmarks] I have an indieweb friendly one, but it is very longform oriented
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j605 currently I am just doing a hackjob of my previous theme
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j605 it might end up working, I am following this source https://ringdown.ascraeus.org/dgold/reproach
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j605 ok checking if it works from here, sorry if it is spammy https://j605.tk/blog/post/shorts/neovim-macro-to-create-numbered-lists/
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[kevinmarks] https://github.com/ChristopherA/LifeWithAlacrityBlog/tree/master/blog/themes/indie-tufte
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j605 thanks :)
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[kevinmarks] the blog looks like this: http://www.lifewithalacrity.com/
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j605 I am somewhat done
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j605 I will figure out how to section replies separately next week. Time to sleep
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j605 thanks for all the help folks
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j605 I can receive webmentions now thanks to webmentions.herokuapp.com and it styled thanks to dgold 's css and form
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
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jeremycherfas Unlikely to be able to follow along with IWC, but will look forward to write-ups and videos. Have fun everybody.
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[Rose] It's looking that way for me too, lots of deadlines popped up this weekend!
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sknebel I might actually be able to, calm before the storm :D
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[jgmac1106] Morning
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Loqi morning!
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jeremycherfas Struggling with cURL options at the moment ... Joy.
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g1 so what are we doing here?
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[dave] Morning indieweb
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jeremycherfas Morning [dave]
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[galexk] hello
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[galexk] new guy here
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swentel welcome :)
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[galexk] thank you
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[galexk] i'm planning to create about experiments i do in real life
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[galexk] a blog or something
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[galexk] do you guys think it is wise to mix it up with my real name and with other topics like general my summaries or thoughts of certain books or topics
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[galexk] or would you guys rather create different blogs on different domains ?
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[galexk] it might be a silly question, but perhaps some of you have experience with that sort of problem?
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jeremycherfas [galexk] Hello and welcome. As someone who struggles with this, if I were starting again I would have a single domain and use categories, subdomains, presentation styles to keep areas separate if they ought to be separate.
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[galexk] [jeremycherfas] thanks for your response. That sounds reasonable. And you would keep the same domain in order to have fewer costs and to have a kind of association to yourself but still keep certain topics separate so an experiment intrester won't get mixed up with let's say programic stuff etc. ?
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jeremycherfas Yes, that's about right. It certainly reduces costs, but it also makes it easier to integrate if you want to. So, depending on how you set things up, an individual article could easily be available to both experiment and program strands.
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jeremycherfas If they ar on separate domains you have to cross link or find duplicate or find some other mechanism.
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[jgmac1106] galexk I do that. I have tons of subdomains and blogs I throw up for different events...Other people like to have it all in one place, depends on your style
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[galexk] I like the idea with different styles to distinguish them
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[galexk] Thanks for your responses guys! 😀
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[dave] I kinda go the opposite way. My interests are diverse enough that it made sense to me to use different domains to easily share that aspect of myself/my works and then link to them from my primary identity site. My uri is davegoesthedistance.com but I post puzzles at thegriddle.net and log taco experience at allthetacos.com
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[dougbeal] Good morning indieweb
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[schmarty] good morning indieweb!
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[schmarty] i am traveling so i won't be able to follow along live
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[schmarty] have a great day today campers!
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[galexk] [dave] thanks for sharing. Will definitely check out your sites to see if your approach fits my plans better 👍
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[tantek] Uh oh, having trouble saving edits on PBWorks / PBWiki.
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[tantek] Getting worried about that silo now
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[tantek] Nevermind just worked. Weird, one of those wait a few minutes and try again things.
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[schmarty] tantek: do you have an export?
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[tantek] schmarty: no, and they don't make exporting easy 😞
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[tantek] my limit-the-damage strategy has been to not create any new pages/links there. and only update current pages.
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[tantek] so many use-cases to document of things I want to recreate on my own site 😞
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[schmarty] that sounds anxiety-inducing 😬
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[schmarty] paper++
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Loqi paper has 1 karma in this channel over the last year (2 in all channels)
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[Rose] I literally have a notebook next to me right now and I'm writing down everything I want to add/implement on my site with it
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[Rose] (with the notebook)
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[Rose] Expecting this one to get pretty crazy this weekend!
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[Rose] gets back to her review that needs writing ASAP
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gRegorLove Hello from IndieWebCamp Austin!
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[dave] Ditto
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[dave] @gwg thank you for the suggestion, I too am now running Android Firefox on my Chromebook
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GWG [dave]: Wasn't a suggestion so much as a workaround
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jackjamieson Good morning IndieWeb
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paulrobertlloyd Hmm, so it turns out Slack only bridges so much! Few of my posts seem to have not made it to the ‘real’ chat!
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[dave] @GWG I'm just in it for the irony
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[Rose] Paul I think that's a spam protection feature rather than a bug.
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paulrobertlloyd @Rose What’s the best client, using the one on the web right now. Perhaps I should dig out Colloquy IRC mac app again…?
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[Rose] Well, I use Slack, mostly because it doesn't log me out on iOS all the time.
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[Rose] As such I am far from the best person to ask, however Zegnat, Sknebel, and indeed most others here are all using IRC and can probably suggest a client!
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sknebel I think colloquy is fine for mac, or Textual
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[Rose] The only thing with Slack, is sometimes Loqi predicts the future
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gRegorLove Slack bridge should usually work except for images and it truncates long messages in IRC (IRC limitation)
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dougbeal gives Loqi a future-cookie
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Loqi eats the future-cookie
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[Rose] (So messages come through slightly out of order, but it's not a regular thing and quite easy to see when it happens)
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gRegorLove Loqi, when will tantek arrive?
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chrisaldrich Good morning Campers!
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gRegorLove o/ chrisaldrich
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aaronpk gRegorLove: at the last possible minute
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chrisaldrich I totally expected aaronpk to have been logged in as Loqi and provided that answer... ;)
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dougbeal o/ chrisaldrich
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aaronpk I never cheat. everything Loqi says is himself.
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GWG chrisaldrich: All camp questions are answered in I Want to Go Home, a Book By Gordon Korman
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chrisaldrich Or his other camp classic No Coins, Please!
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[chrisaldrich] [galexk] There is some prior related documentation of your earlier question at https://indieweb.org/multi-site_indieweb
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Kaja_ [youtube] new Indiewebcamp stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGENDlYMnm4
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[Rose] YouTube has a live chat... Curious
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GWG I'm waiting for Loqi to call aaronpk 'Father'.
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[Rose] I see Manton!
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[Rose] And other people
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aaronpk we're live!
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chrisaldrich hooray!
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chrisaldrich For those of us who are remote, can someone give us an idea of numbers who have shown up?
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chrisaldrich Also who is overseeing video/audio quality today if we see issues later on?
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gRegorLove ~15 attendees currenlty
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gRegorLove manton is doing the intro, shows our sponsors and /coc
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GWG chrisaldrich: aaronpk is in the room. [eddie] is on Jitsi duty.
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GWG Yay WordPress!
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Loqi yay!
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GWG [manton] explains POSSE
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GWG Micropub is for posting, Microformats is for markup, and Webmention is for cross-site replies...
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GWG Manton started out building an API for micro.blog, but threw it out in favor of Micropub
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GWG Shoutout to Indiebookclub.biz
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gRegorLove going through some of the /principles
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[jgmac1106] Hey all of Austin!
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GWG The cycle of new sites and site deaths is frustrating...post to your own site
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GWG [jgmac1106]: Miss you here
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gRegorLove schedule for today up on 2019.indieweb.org/austin
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GWG aaronpk will take the stage, then demos, then planning then lunch
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GWG Ladies and Gentleman, the SPOA.
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gRegorLove The State of Social Readers on the IndieWeb by aaronpk
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[tantek] Great introduction Manton!
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chrisaldrich eddie may want to dump some of the Jitsi links/info into the /2019/Austin pages for later...
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gRegorLove [manton]++
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Loqi [manton] has 29 karma in this channel over the last year (62 in all channels)
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jackjamieson Did anyone else just lose audio on the youtube stream?
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chrisaldrich uh oh... I just lost audio...
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gRegorLove audio should be back now
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[Rose] Yup, it's really quiet though
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[tantek] "I'm using tools I want to use, they're using tools they want to use, and we can still all talk to each other."
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[Rose] Thanks! Volume is back to normal
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chrisaldrich GWG++ for volume and volume!
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Loqi GWG has 26 karma in this channel over the last year (162 in all channels)
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[eddie] [chrisaldrich] the Jitsi links are essentially all based on the sessionHashtags, so until we have those we don’t have a lot
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gRegorLove aaronpk showing screenshots of /Indigenous, /Together, reader.p38.nl
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gRegorLove * reader.p83.nl
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gRegorLove aka /Ekster
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chrisaldrich What is Baffle?
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Loqi Baffle is a bridge that makes traditional feed readers like NewsBlur and Feedly support Microsub https://indieweb.org/Baffle
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gRegorLove manton coming back up for personal site intros
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gRegorLove manton.org: blogging for about 17 years
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chrisaldrich Who is Manton?
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/User:Manton.org
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gRegorLove ... used a few things over the years. Userland, Movable Type, WordPress, then last year switched to micro.blog
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gRegorLove ... tries to keep short posts under 280 characters so they look good on Twitter
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gRegorLove ... doesn't have any major things he wants to do. Added categories to micro.blog recently, so might work on categorizing posts
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gRegorLove ... documenting his travel budgets
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chrisaldrich For those who are joining us for the first time, you can easily add yourself to the wiki so Loqi and others will know who you are. Details at https://indieweb.org/wikifying
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gRegorLove ... posts photos, has done some 30-day projects - new coffee shop every day and libraries
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gRegorLove ... (book libraries. Like paper.)
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chrisaldrich https://manton.org/30-days/
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gRegorLove Stephenbowling.com
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jeremycherfas gets home from a walk, fozen, and checks out the schedule
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gRegorLove ... connected to micro.blog to cross post to Twitter
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GWG Manton needs a better wiki bio
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gRegorLove ... likes to have the content on his site bc services go away
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gRegorLove ... uses CraftCMS
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gRegorLove ... writes long-form posts on technical topics
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gRegorLove ... brings in photos from Instagram, scraping their JSON feed
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gRegorLove ... interested in location tracking. Has 8 years of data via the Moves app
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gRegorLove ... site was set up to import from Moves, but app is shutdown now
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gRegorLove ... using aaronpk's app (is that Overland?)
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aaronpk yep
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gRegorLove ... has a micropub plugin for CraftCMS
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gRegorLove up next: Neil Nazareth
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GWG Is it Neil or Neal?
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gRegorLove ... has a really complicated URL :)
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swentel GWG, are you in this slot, or afternoon?
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GWG This slot
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[tantek] gRegorLove I think maybe "Aneel"
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GWG Had planned on it.
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swentel ok, I have half an hour before I leave .. :)
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GWG I'll volunteer to go next.
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GWG Don't want you to sleep first
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swentel oh, it's 6pm only
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swentel but having dinner soon
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gRegorLove ... posts maps and annotates them for road trips and other location tracking
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gRegorLove ... looking into Leaflet JS
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GWG Wasn't fast enough there
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gRegorLove up next: taravancel.com
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GWG My eyesight isn't good enough to see the URL
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gRegorLove * https://taravancil.com/
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chrisaldrich What is Dat? :)
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Loqi Dat is a protocol for transferring files peer-to-peer https://indieweb.org/Dat
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GWG What is Dis?
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Loqi This. (AKA THIS. or This: or THIS:) is type of quotation post similar in meaning to a combined like & repost where the text "This." is stated on a line by itself after the quotation, or the text "This:" is stated before a quotation or URL to express a strong affirmation or agreement with the referenced quotation or article https://indieweb.org/dis
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gRegorLove ... posts nail photos, site lags behind instagram due to IG UI
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GWG Missed again
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GWG Oh well
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gRegorLove David Millar up now
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gRegorLove davegoesthedistance.com
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gRegorLove ... "I have sort of a million and a half domain names"
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gRegorLove ... oldest is thegriddle, 13 years ago, posts puzzles like Sudoku
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gRegorLove ... redesigning the site, wants to add more indieweb building blocks like /webmention
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chrisaldrich Who is David Millar?
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Loqi Taco Dave is a front-end developer, puzzle author, taco critic, and IndieWeb newbie. His URI is dave goes the distance dot com https://indieweb.org/User:Davegoesthedistance.com
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gRegorLove ... thinking about a webmention-based puzzle answer verification process
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gRegorLove ... also has allthetacos.com to track tacos he eats
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gRegorLove ... hosted on Tumblr with custom domain. Another goal is to move it off tumblr
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gRegorLove (thegriddle.net for earlier site)
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GWG I should just stand up before someone else
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gRegorLove up next: raynamharris.github.io
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gRegorLove ... uses Jekyll theme
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chrisaldrich Often it helps to have a line of 1-2 people on deck to speed things up...
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gRegorLove ... links to social sites, CV, uses markdown to build whole site
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Loqi +1
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gRegorLove ... she's a scientist, has publications and a blog
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gRegorLove ... I Can Science project https://raynamharris.github.io/i_can_science/
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gRegorLove up next: GWG
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chrisaldrich Awesome to have another scientist/academic using https://indieweb.org/Indieweb_for_Education
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[chrisaldrich] GWG 🎉
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aaronpk sorry, no slides on the livestream for this then, can't get the chromebook into 1080 mode
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chrisaldrich Who is GWG?
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/User:David.shanske.com
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gRegorLove ... showing Indigenous for Android
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chrisaldrich Who is Greg McVerry?
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gRegorLove ... it auto-suggests tags from your site
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[jgmac1106] Some weirdo...
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chrisaldrich who Loqi apparently doesn't like....
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gRegorLove ... has location, can query your site for location info. make location public or private
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[jgmac1106] Who is J Gregory McVerry
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gRegorLove ... posts a test post from the app, shows the post on his dev site with: map and weather
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[jgmac1106] Will check it out... Don't want to interrupt intro flows
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chrisaldrich What is Indigenous?
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Loqi Indigenous is a set of native apps for iOS and Android currently in beta that supports posting your website using Micropub and a built-in reader that supports Microsub https://indieweb.org/Indigenous
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[jgmac1106] Will remote demo of just post a demo post.
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gRegorLove up next: aaronparecki.com
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chrisaldrich Jack Jamieson is the developer of /Yarns, a /Microsub client for /WordPress
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gRegorLove ... has a "currently in" bar at the top of his site, showing "Austin, TX" currently
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gRegorLove ... uses Overland
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swentel GWG, cool to see, need to work on tablet screen sizes :)
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gRegorLove ... shows his photos page, describes /ownyourgram
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GWG swentel: Everything worked though
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chrisaldrich swentel++
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Loqi swentel has 11 karma in this channel over the last year (46 in all channels)
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gRegorLove ... count is up to 20k+ photos "rescued from instagram"
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gRegorLove ... for ownyourgram as a whole
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jeremycherfas Ownyourgram++
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Loqi Ownyourgram has 1 karma over the last year
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gRegorLove ... added his photo on his reply posts so it's clearer it's something he wrote
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swentel true, have to go now, have a great day over there
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chrisaldrich aaronpk++ for showing that it's all about the small incremental changes to our websites
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Loqi aaronpk has 34 karma in this channel over the last year (257 in all channels)
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gRegorLove up next: didn't give a name yet
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gRegorLove ... doesn't want to get into details on the stream, willing to offline
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gRegorLove ... thinks curation layer is necessary on top of all this stuff, so good stuff rises to the top in public conversations online
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chrisaldrich hopes there's a session on curation at a camp soon
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chrisaldrich what is curation?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "curation" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "curation is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[jgmac1106] gRegorLove++
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Loqi gRegorLove has 20 karma in this channel over the last year (84 in all channels)
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[jgmac1106] As scribe
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gRegorLove ... would prefer people pay a penny for content rather than advertising.
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gRegorLove up next: John
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gRegorLove ... has about 50 domains which he hasn't been doing much with
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gRegorLove ... working on a way to deploy kubernetes stats easily if you're not familiar
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[Rose] I know Kubernetes!
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gRegorLove ... kubash.org
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[Rose] At least I have a certificate that says I does, I may have been in this chat for most of that course
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gRegorLove ... texasnorml.org
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gRegorLove ... conversations this site posts on Facebook are being filtered, hidden due to political nature
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GWG gRegorLove takes the podium
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GWG gRegorLove has been blogging for a long time
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chrisaldrich Who is gRegorLove?
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Loqi gRegor Morrill is a software developer living in San Diego, California. Pronouns: he/him/his https://indieweb.org/User:Gregorlove.com
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gRegorLove ... working on a CSS grid version of my articles archive page
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gRegorLove up next: hereistomwiththeweather.com
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[chrisaldrich] As a remote participant, I'm Chris Aldrich and my site is at https://boffosocko.com. The last thing I added to my site is a Followers Page at https://boffosocko.com/about/followers/. It accepts webmentions from people who indicate they follow my site online.
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gRegorLove * https://herestomwiththeweather.com/ (I always mess that up)
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gRegorLove ... shows effaustin.org with webmentions on posts
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GWG EFFAustin.org is using my fork of 2016
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GWG Needs to be updated to the latest version
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gRegorLove ... had to install the WordPress Classic editor to keep Post Kinds working
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GWG gRegorLove: I really have to figure out the way forward on that
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GWG I have 2 years
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gRegorLove up next: constantine.su
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gRegorLove ... has media queries so when you zoom in the layout changes
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gRegorLove ... mdoc.su url shortener
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GWG No Discord bridge yet though
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[Rose] Hi people!
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chrisaldrich Any other remote attendees want to introduce themselves and drop a link?
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gRegorLove up next: tantek.com
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gRegorLove ... tries really hard to post almost all his content there
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gRegorLove ... all his own notes there since 2010, photos since ?, and github issue comments since last year
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GWG tantek.com is a special snowflake though
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jeremycherfas I'm not going be here much for the rest of the day, so probably no point.
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gRegorLove ... most recent thing: he's had the left/right navigation arrows for quite a while. Recently added navigation between days (not exposed in UI yet)
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gRegorLove ... trim the URL to the day path and the arrows change to navigate by day (I think?)
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[kevinmarks] Instagram can handle varied aspect ratio now
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[Rose] You have to tap the icon when uploading the photo to do that though, it annoys me that I can't have that enabled by default
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aneel (it's Aneel)
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[tantek] Welcome Aneel!
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gRegorLove oops, sorry about that aneel!
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aneel and that complicated url was http://navelgazing.omphaloskeptic.net
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jeremycherfas Well yeah, it is annoying, but it CAN be done.
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gRegorLove aneel++ thanks!
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Loqi aneel has 1 karma over the last year
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[Rose] Jeremy, looks like that doesn't work for multi photos
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aneel no worries, it's not a common name
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chrisaldrich likes the redundancy of Aneel's domain
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gRegorLove Collin introduced himself. No website, will be photographing and videoing this weekend.
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jeremycherfas Redundancy or tautology?
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gRegorLove up next: not chrisaldrich (GWG for chrisaldrich :)
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gRegorLove ... boffosocko.com
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[Vincent] I’m watching in the past, about 1hr behind, got absorbed working on my own site and forgot it has started
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gRegorLove ... Chris posts a lot of stuff
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chrisaldrich apropos since GWG is responsible for a bunch of that functionality...
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jeremycherfas Chiken!
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gRegorLove what is chicken?
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Loqi chicken is a type of post supported by idno https://indieweb.org/chicken
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gRegorLove applauds for chrisaldrich
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[davidmead] Just popping in. Great to see on YouTube other people's sites
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gRegorLove intros done!
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chrisaldrich bows
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GWG chrisaldrich: You are my favorite user
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gRegorLove taking a 15 minute break before session scheduling
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GWG Because you try to use it all
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Guest10385 <blink/>
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chrisaldrich community++
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Loqi community has 1 karma in this channel over the last year (3 in all channels)
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gRegorLove "I use it all" to the tune of Queen's "I want it all"
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[kevinmarks] Odd clicking noises in alternate ears
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chrisaldrich I'm getting that same effect on audio for the last minute or too kevinmarks.
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aaronpk there's no audio right now
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dougbeal 45 minute sessions? Any break inbetween?
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gRegorLove dougbeal, 45 minute sessions, 5 minute breaks between
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gRegorLove I can wiki edit now if you're not available btw, just let me know
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dougbeal gRegorLove: I'm good
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dougbeal gRegorLove: or I can figure out what to do with tantek's pictures?
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gRegorLove dougbeal, up to you. Maybe easier to just edit based on the final grid photo.
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dougbeal gRegorLove: can you check my time math? ;) https://indieweb.org/2019/Austin/Schedule#Saturday_February_23_2019
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dougbeal Sound is out again
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aneel He's talking about how sessions are going to be set up
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GWG If you have a proposal, post it here
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[kevinmarks] I was able to watch the stream while walking the dogs in the countryside
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GWG [kevinmarks]: Fun
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GWG Your rural lifestyle sounds picturesque
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[kevinmarks] http://known.kevinmarks.com/2019/i-was-watching-the-indiewebcamp-austin-stream-while-walking-the
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Loqi [Kevin Marks] I was watching the #indiewebcamp Austin stream while walking the dogs in the countryside http://known.kevinmarks.com/file/072ed397bd4c682940e9fb0f7b857a01/thumb.jpg
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dougbeal Gutenberg's Monster?
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dougbeal What does wp's Gutenberg mean for us
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dougbeal Will everything be streamed?
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dougbeal +1 IndieMail
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chrisaldrich I think Eddie has set up some video conferencing that we could do a bird of a feather or alternate sessions online...
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chrisaldrich what is email?
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Loqi Email is a decentralized, non-web messaging transport, with typical user interfaces that encourage excessively lengthy messages, in contrast to texting https://indieweb.org/email
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chrisaldrich what is linkrot?
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Loqi https://indieweb.org/linkrot
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[tantek] gRegorLove was literally stuck waiting 5 min for an elevator
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dougbeal elevator--
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Loqi elevator has -1 karma over the last year
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chrisaldrich In addition to the group photo, be sure to post a photo of the session grid.
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jacky that dfn for email is a bit opinionated
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jacky updated
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[eddie] [chrisaldrich] yes, bird of feather is totally acceptable for online! Just have to pick a hashtag and append it to https://meet.indieweb.org/
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[jgmac1106] https://jgmac1106homepage.glitch.me/austinintro.html
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Loqi [J. Gregory McVerry] IndieWebCamp Austin Demo
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chrisaldrich There's a temporary stream/hangout for lunch at https://meet.indieweb.org/lunch for any remote participants who want to chat. I'll be in and out.
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[eddie] [chrisaldrich]++
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Loqi [chrisaldrich] has 18 karma in this channel over the last year (45 in all channels)
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[jgmac1106] Oooh if the link rot archiving session needs something for a live demo rewriting my stupid redirects to work again might make great session fodder
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[jgmac1106] ...aahh session didn't make it off the wall..something for hack day
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[eddie] It might? I think it might be Session 4 in the main room
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[eddie] I can’t read that sticky note enough to add it to the wiki
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aaronpk do you need a better photo of the session grid?
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[eddie] I got most of it. I’m just missing the main room on session#4 and I can’t read the hashtag of Micro Moments
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[eddie] But I got everything else
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chrisaldrich I missed part of the session scheduling. What is "How to" actually about? Something in the /getting_started area?
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[eddie] How to add insta & something to websites is what the full post it note reads
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[eddie] That was the other blurry one, aaronpk
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dougbeal chrisaldrich: https://i.imgur.com/LOnThsb.jpg
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chrisaldrich strike that reverse it: How to link instagram and twitter to your site
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aaronpk https://i.imgur.com/eCdq5S7.jpg
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[eddie] Does the link rot Session hashtag look like webio to you all?
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GWG The /howto room is online if someone wants to join the Jitsi
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GWG Someone join, we're lonely
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[Rose] Yes
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[Rose] * for Eddie
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GWG chrisaldrich: Do you hear howto?
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[Rose] Will in a moment GWG, Chris Aldritch may have just twisted my arm into WordPress 😉
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GWG chrisaldrich++
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Loqi chrisaldrich has 19 karma in this channel over the last year (46 in all channels)
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sknebel NOW: https://indieweb.org/2019/Austin/Schedule Next events: Homebrew Website Club Meetup https://indieweb.org/next-hwc, Code of conduct: https://indieweb.org/code-of-conduct, log https://chat.indieweb.org/today
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Kaja_ [youtube] new Indiewebcamp stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCuPLy1FoGo
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chrisaldrich is no one taking notes in the etherpad for the Dat session??
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[RichV] The session hasn't started yet...
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aaronpk we are just now starting, and going to be a short session
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Kaja_ [youtube] new Indiewebcamp stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpA1gWL2fok
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jackjamieson Audio just dropped in main room
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jackjamieson Audio is back now
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kimhansen Can't tell if I'm signed in or not.
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kimhansen I am.
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aaronpk waves to kimhansen
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kimhansen allo :)
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kimhansen Is it just me, or is the livestream not playing anything? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGENDlYMnm4
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kimhansen Oh duh
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kimhansen There it is.
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GWG Location Data Sources starting online and in the open area
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Kaja_ [youtube] new Indiewebcamp stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efO_e1ml77o
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chrisaldrich Welcome kimhansen!
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Kaja_ [youtube] new Indiewebcamp stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrgzvetbH7o
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[davidmead] comments here or on YouTube for sessions?
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aaronpk here plz
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[davidmead] ok
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aaronpk or etherpad
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[davidmead] I use MediaTemple shared for Known and WordPress hosting
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aaronpk actually etherpad is better
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aaronpk so it gets archived in the notes
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[davidmead] can’t find the etherpad link for current hosting session with tantek
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aaronpk it's linked from the schedule
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aaronpk https://etherpad.indieweb.org/webhost
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[davidmead] :thumbsup:
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rayna hello!
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[kevinmarks] Hi there
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chrisaldrich rayna++ for finding the chat and leading one of the first sessions of the day
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Loqi rayna has 1 karma over the last year
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GWG chrisaldrich++ for your proselytizing.
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Loqi chrisaldrich has 20 karma in this channel over the last year (47 in all channels)
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Kaja_ [youtube] new Indiewebcamp stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7wFQqmUawg
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chrisaldrich are we still running a bit behind? When is the next set of sessions beginning?
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aaronpk main room is startting now
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aaronpk just dropped the video link in the schedule
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chrisaldrich just noticed it's the youtube instead of jitsi...
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chrisaldrich thanks aaronpk
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chrisaldrich What is review?
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Loqi A review is an evaluation of a product or service, usually involving a written description, but can also be limited to a numerical scale https://indieweb.org/review
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chrisaldrich I've put a question or two for gRegorLove into the etherpad about microformats.
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chrisaldrich gwg^^
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[tantek] what is webmention
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Loqi Webmention is a web standard for mentions and conversations across the web, a powerful building block that is used for a growing federated network of comments, likes, reposts, and other rich interactions across the decentralized social web https://indieweb.org/Webmention
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chrisaldrich A hopefully reasonable (non-code oriented) description of webmention and what it can be used for: https://alistapart.com/article/webmentions-enabling-better-communication-on-the-internet
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jacky lots of new nicks/faces! :)
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Kaja_ [youtube] new Indiewebcamp stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LS7QPl2oXs
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Kaja_ [youtube] new Indiewebcamp stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5oZLqevQ6g
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GWG Anyone for Personal Logging?
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GWG In the Jitsi?
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dougbeal GWG: joined
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sknebel dougbeal: room audio quite bad for you too?
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dougbeal sknebel: yeah
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dougbeal sknebel: thinkin of asking for video to be shut down
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sknebel okay, so it's probably their connection and not mine :D
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aaronpk which room?
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snarfed discussion fodder for personal logging session: https://blog.stephenwolfram.com/2019/02/seeking-the-productive-life-some-details-of-my-personal-infrastructure/
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dougbeal aaronpk: personallogging
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aaronpk let's see if turning off the video helps
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aaronpk the bandwidth on the wifi here is terrible
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sknebel better I think
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jackjamieson dougeal skenebel and aaronpk: I realized that the audio improved when I unmuted my mic
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jackjamieson Not sure if that will help for you, but worth trying
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[tantek] what is Internet Archive
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Loqi The Internet Archive is a non-profit organization that is building a digital library, including archival copy of much of the public web https://indieweb.org/Internet_Archive
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[tantek] rayna ^^^
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jon1 lots of public domain music and video at the Internet Archive
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jon1 and images
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jon1 what is #indieweb it's my first time here
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[tantek] hi jon1 how did you find the chat?
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jon1 Through a google search after hearing a great interview with Cal Newport
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[jgmac1106] Ha ha we are reading is book in another slack grouP... I called it the Vegetarian's Guide to Cooking Pot Roast
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jon1 what exactly does that mean?
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jon1 I think he was referring to indieweb as the Internet outside the closed worlds of social media sites
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jon1 so what is this place lol
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[jgmac1106] The web. We hang out and connect our websites
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jon1 bloggers?
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[jgmac1106] There is an event in Austin TX now
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[jgmac1106] Some, just a commitment to a people driven alternative to the corporate web built on idea world is better served when you carve your own space out online
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jon1 Count me in
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jon1 I'm one of two people watching ndieWebCamp Austin Open Area
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jon1 on youtube
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[jgmac1106] Basically people who understand Newport's concerns but enjoy a webby life
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[jgmac1106] I should be... But my kids left stuff at an event and had to go get it.
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Loqi yea!
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jon1 sounds techy.
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jon1 I'm about to revamp my entire web site
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JVL1 the archive discussion brings to mind permanent.org which was a project at the ATX hack for change in 2018, not sure of project state but it was geaered towards the longevity of data access over time
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chrisaldrich What is longevity?
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Loqi Longevity is the goal of keeping your data as future-friendly and future-proof as possible; it is one of the indieweb principles https://indieweb.org/longevity
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chrisaldrich When is the next IndieWebCamp?
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Loqi IndieWebCamp Austin 2019 is February 23-24, 2019 in Austin, Texas; the second IndieWebCamp in Austin https://indieweb.org/next_IndieWebCamp
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chrisaldrich jon1 ^^ for details on today/tomorrows events
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gRegorLove chrisaldrich, should be same video stream; didn't stop last one
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jackjamieson Yep, same stream is still running
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chrisaldrich thanks gRegor
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chrisaldrich https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5oZLqevQ6g for those who don't want to scroll back
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dougbeal GWG: could you turn off the other room? Bandwidth seems low on the Main stream
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GWG Okahy
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gRegorLove updated schedule with YouTube link
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dougbeal GWG++ thanks!
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Loqi GWG has 27 karma in this channel over the last year (164 in all channels)
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GWG Done
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dougbeal Live Stream working for anyone else?
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dougbeal Always happens in the good part ;)
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jackjamieson Stopped for me too :(
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[gRegorLove] Internet at venue went to crap
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jackjamieson I've got to get going anyway. Really interesting talks today. Have a good evening everyone!
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[jgmac1106] aomwbody almost talked for a second
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[tantek] internet is slow just to load pages here
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gRegorLove wrapping up day 1
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dougbeal Goodnight IndieWeb
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Loqi see you in the morning!
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jon1 how do you feel about using wordpress for your websites?
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chrisaldrich jon1, there are certainly a lot of us using /WordPress as our preferred solution
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chrisaldrich There's also some really good support and community around WordPress as a solution.
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chrisaldrich What is WordPress?
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Loqi WordPress is open source CMS software used by many on the Indieweb as well as a blog hosting service https://indieweb.org/WordPress
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chrisaldrich If you're interested there's also a #WordPress specific channel in the IndieWeb chat.
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chrisaldrich Do you already have a domain name set up jon1?
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jon1 I do and just installed the indieweb plugin
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jon1 Cool thanks for the #wordpress tip
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jon1 chrisaldrich I just followed you on IG I may message you there if thats ok