#indieweb 2019-04-14

2019-04-14 UTC
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jacky !tell [chrisaldrich]: thank you (re: commentparade mention)!
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Simple Location 3.7.0 Released" https://david.shanske.com/2019/04/13/simple-location-3-7-0-released/
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[eddie] Ohhhh I never realized it was comment parade before!!
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[eddie] Wow, jacky nice job!
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[eddie] jacky++
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Loqi jacky has 14 karma in this channel over the last year (54 in all channels)
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[eddie] I never actually clicked that button before, very nice UX!
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[tantek] jacky++ that's a very clever way of using commentparade + Quill with pre-filled parameters
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Loqi jacky has 15 karma in this channel over the last year (55 in all channels)
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[tantek] and https://beesbuzz.biz/blog/71-Medium-tedium is brutal
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tw2113 ooh an indieweb podcast? I clicked that simple location release link and saw it at the top
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[tantek] Medium << Criticism: 2019-04-13 [https://beesbuzz.biz/blog/71-Medium-tedium Medium tedium] <blockquote>Medium hasn’t invented anything, they’ve just tried to commoditize long-form blogging and put a sheen on it. There are so many better ways to share your thoughts to the world.</blockquote>
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Loqi ok, I added "Criticism: 2019-04-13 [https://beesbuzz.biz/blog/71-Medium-tedium Medium tedium] <blockquote>Medium hasn’t invented anything, they’ve just tried to commoditize long-form blogging and put a sheen on it. There are so many better ways to share your thoughts to the world.</blockquote>" to the "See Also" section of /Medium https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=59276&oldid=59274
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tw2113 added that podcast category to my podcast app
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[tantek] tw2113 do you use Huffduffer?
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tw2113 Podcast Addict
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tw2113 if i'm reading the website right, it's a way to aggregate mp3 files into a single feed that you could do whatever with?
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Jeremycherfas !tell tw2113 Also really handy for sampling single episodes as long as the podcaster doesn’t do silly stuff with frames or hosting.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tw2113 sounds legit
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Loqi tw2113: Jeremycherfas left you a message 1 minute ago: Also really handy for sampling single episodes as long as the podcaster doesn’t do silly stuff with frames or hosting.
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[kevinmarks] Medium << timeline of Medium's vacillation about being a publisher, a platform or whatever https://www.niemanlab.org/2019/03/the-long-complicated-and-extremely-frustrating-history-of-medium-2012-present
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Loqi ok, I added "timeline of Medium's vacillation about being a publisher, a platform or whatever https://www.niemanlab.org/2019/03/the-long-complicated-and-extremely-frustrating-history-of-medium-2012-present" to the "See Also" section of /Medium https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=59283&oldid=59276
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[jgmac1106] [kevinmarks] I remember you saying Planets got their name because they were invented at Sun Microsystems. True? Or am I making things up.
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doubleloop Philosophically speaking, if I create a bookmark post of an article, and then also save the same article that I'm bookmarking to e.g. Wallabag, is that POSSE/syndication?
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doubleloop I kind of fell like.. I'm not really creating any content, I'm just saving the link in two different places
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sknebel I wouldn't really consider it syndication, no, even if it's similar on a technical level
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doubleloop I agree. The context is that I'm adding this Wallabag cross-publish to my Wordpress site, and the Syndication Links plugin (and syndication targets via Micropub clients) provide an easy way to do it technically, but it would then sit probably in the wrong place in terms of UI.
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sknebel seems fine - you could try to hide it on the pages visitors see, and just use the backend parts?
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doubleloop Yes that should work
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Jeremycherfas G'day IndieWeb
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chrisaldrich jgmac1106, I've been under a rock for a bit, but did you need help with your #PressED bit or want to do something interactive that day?
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[jgmac1106] If the time slot works out [chrisaldrich] could set it up like a dialogue..have a few guiding directions but I am not much of a planner for talks. Kinda wing it
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[jgmac1106] I will propose an idea and ping you tonight in the post
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jacky morning y'all
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jacky re: POSSE, wallabag and syndication; it could be if you use Wallabag's public link feature
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chrisaldrich jgmac1106, which timeslot have you got? Let me know the guiding directions and I'm happy to try to help out.
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jacky a really nice personal site: https://www.tatianamac.com/
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "📺 David Wolfpaw: WordPress and the IndieWeb – Why You Should Own Your Voice | WordPress.TV" https://boffosocko.com/2019/04/14/david-wolfpaw-wordpress-and-the-indieweb-why-you-should-own-your-voice-wordpress-tv/
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tw2113 aww yiss
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tw2113 i still need to watch that presentation
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jacky is that you tw2113?
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chrisaldrich While I like the general idea of IndieMark for people building their sites from scratch, I'm not sure it's the best way for WordPress people to approach IndieWeb for the first time.
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chrisaldrich He does cover a lot of the basics and gives some useful examples there though.
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tw2113 no, i'm not the presenter
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chrisaldrich Reminds me that I need to finish up the reworking of the WordPress getting started page which has been sitting idle for too long... https://indieweb.org/User:Boffosocko.com/wordpress-draft
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jacky aah https://tech.lgbt/@david
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jacky rather https://fixupfox.com
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jacky nope https://davidwolfpaw.com/
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jacky watching this talk, I'm thinking about jargon
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jacky I wonder if it's okay/helpful to drop `h-` when talking about microformats (and re-introduce when they're interesting in the building blocks)
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jacky hmm this presentations mixes MF1 and MF2 :(
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jacky like if I had my MF2 parser go against this, it wouldn't extract a few tags
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jacky s/tags$/value/g
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tw2113 while definitely a detail that would want to be addressed, which would be more important? the details of implementation? or at least getting people on board with the idea of indieweb?
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jacky the latter
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jacky like I'd show to a friend "so my site's like a 5 second (or minute!) intro to me and from there you can see more about what I do/say on the Web"
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jacky I think with interest (the latter) comes those vested in learning about the impl (the former)
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sl1 Hi all, I need help with the IndieWebring
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sl1 I'm on the ring, but for some reason, my emoji has changed
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sl1 so it shows me as not active
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sl1 and I want my old emoji back
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eli_oat @sl1, can you share a link to your webpage?
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jacky wasn't aware you could change emojis
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chrisaldrich My emojis changed, but it was the result of going from http to https. A change may also occur if one uses (or doesn't) a trailing slash possibly (you'd have to look at the code to confirm this last part) or perhaps schmarty would know.
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sl1 https://slsrepo.com/
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sl1 I had a boat emoji, now my assigned emoji is the bathroom (WC) one
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sl1 It happened after I upgraded MySQL
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sl1 So, is there anything I can do? Is @schmarty around?
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jacky not to my knowledge sl1
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[tantek] [chrisaldrich] agreed we need an update to the general WordPress getting started page! And yes it doesn't need to depend on or use IndieMark per se which is (currently) much more directed at people who code their own sites. It definitely needs iteration for a broader audience but for the moment consider it dev-focused
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GWG I should look at it
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GWG Maybe I am too dev