#[Rose]One plugin not being updated did break one of my sites I should note. "New Page via form", but I didn't need it, deleted the folder, and was back in business.
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#JeremycherfasGood to know. Having seen the flurry of point.point releases, I'm glad to have waited a bit. And will now likely wait until this afternoon.
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#ingoogniis there something like peertube for audio/sound only, soundcloud like?
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#LoqiA month ago in a tweet related to my post about bringing people back to the open web, I casually proposed a resource that would score tools, services and other websites on their commitment to being a part of the open web. I'm back to flesh that idea...
#chrisaldrichIf we measure what we value, how would we best measure this ^^?
#[schmarty]it sounds like an effort and goodwill pit to me
#[schmarty]easy to do badly, hard to do well, alienates people by design.
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#[eddie]I think measuring is valuable but grading is not
#[eddie]I would say doing something more like attaching verbs or nouns to describe the functionality of a website and then find a way to measure sites based on that would be a better direction
#sknebelI'm not even a big fan of Indiemark, so agreed on grading
#sknebel(Gonna be late for vhwc, please start without me - [Rose] Zegnat
#[jgmac1106]waste of human capital, we have buttons people can add for indieweb or microformats is we want...IndieMark is a confusing gamification process of an always changing landscape
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#[Rose]I've only just landed, won't be home for about an hour I estimate.
#jackjamiesonchrisaldrich, I think measuring and even grading can be useful, but I'm put off by that article's claim of "easily digestable criteria." Some metrics can be straightforward (e.g. types of export options), but I can't imagine a straightforward metric for something like user empowerment
#jackjamiesonSpecifically because a service that is empowering to one group of people might leave another group out
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#[jgmac1106]Criteria: Do you say your website is IndieWeb friendly, Evidence: you say so
#[jgmac1106]we also have a gigantic wiki to verify IndieWeb friendly tools...if it has a page it has a dfn, IndieWeb examples, criticism, etc....wiki gardening is our grading
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#[tantek]sknebel, [Rose] where was today's vHWC documented?
#Loqi[artkavanagh] @brentsimmons I hope somebody who has the skills and resources to develop this is reading. Some excellent ideas here.
#aaronpkwas there anything particularly unique about the approach he described? it sounds like a pretty straightforward idea which many of us here have talked about doing for quite a long time. it's just quite a lot of technical work.
#[eddie]He just described it in one place in a lot of detail that sounded very enticing
#[eddie]I feel like other discussions have been smaller bits or more vague, while I think getting at the same idea
#[eddie]but having it all together, when I read it something really clicked
#[jgmac1106]You get close with the custom search engine cweiske built already
#[eddie]jgmac1106 what custom search engine is that? You mean the one used for IndieWeb Chat logs?
#[jgmac1106]Just think we could do some cool queries within a community with mf2 and also empower people to say you can crawl x but not y.
#[jgmac1106]...btw lost access to intern as they got contract to create search engine of real time locations of sattelites..plus as [snarfed] and [aaronpk] point out this isn't new
#[eddie]Yeah, that was a good overview, jgmac1106. I think one thing in something like this is if at all possible use IndieWeb technologies to enhance but don't require it
#[eddie]So being able to index RSS and JSON Feed posts, but use progressive enhancement essentially for h-feed and such
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#[kevinmarks]At technorati we parsed the feeds and the html. The common blog engines meant that the html templates were fairly uniform. Microformats helped add structure.