#indieweb 2019-05-06

2019-05-06 UTC
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[kenbauer] Thanks [chrisaldrich] , it looks like a solid proposal.
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chrisaldrich DoOO << https://blog.kenbauer.me/2017/07/03/rnp-2017-domains/
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Loqi ok, I added "https://blog.kenbauer.me/2017/07/03/rnp-2017-domains/" to the "See Also" section of /A_Domain_of_One%27s_Own https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=60671&oldid=58850
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[Chris_Adams] hey hang, I didn’t think to ask yesterday - were the streaming videos recorded or captured anywhere?
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[Chris_Adams] oops! I meant ‘gang’
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[Rose] The demos are here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vNuH20GGMw
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GWG I apologize for the crudeness of the streaming
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GWG I was pressed into service that morning
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[Rose] I'm really looking forward to DUS next weekend!
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[kevinmarks786] [tantek] the switch is a lot of scrolling to get to on mobile
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[Rose] I think it's temporary Kevin, at least while he's still experimenting with it
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Zegnat [Chris_Adams]: I think the sessions that had GWG's Chromebook I'm the room may have gotten streamed from there (YouTube would have archives). The introductions were captured by a secondary camera from [Yulia] so I think that will be ported to the YouTube channel also.
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Loqi Zegnat: [Rose] left you a message 17 hours, 18 minutes ago: We should use indiewebguides.org at Åmål if new people come
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[Rose] I think there may have been an issue with the introduction capture
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Zegnat Oh was there?!
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[Rose] I heard Yulia say something, but I can't be sure what - she and Tantek would be best positioned to say for sure.
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[Rose] Related to wikiying things, I want to move a lot of this over to my website I think: https://indieweb.org/User:Rosemaryorchard.com
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[tonz] [Rose] no, we haven’t arranged for streaming as yet. Any assistance is therefore welcome.
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[Rose] Noted! I was given an organiser box in Berlin to bring to Dusseldorf and Utrecht, it has things like sticky notes for session grids (reusable ones that stick with static), check lists, all sorts.
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swentel wouldn't it make more sense to organize around drupalcon amsterdam?
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swentel more people potentially involved then
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GWG I can help remotely with streaming
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[Rose] GWG++, thanks!
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Loqi GWG has 23 karma in this channel over the last year (168 in all channels)
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GWG I have done adhoc streaming rigs at multiple camps
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GWG I know good cheap options
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[jgmac1106] so far Hangouts seems to work best for two way room sunless we purchase a Zoom account as [aaronpk] noted
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[jgmac1106] we have gotten close with jitsi byt the multiple rooms gave [eddie] trouble
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GWG But I was wondering if having someone remote setting up the rooms makes sense.
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GWG Right now, someone remote sets up the online session grid
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GWG Why not add the streaming links as events in the YouTube account and start there?
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GWG By the way, if my plane departs mid conversation, I'll be back at altitude
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GWG Although we should move to meta
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[Rose] -> meta
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
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[jgmac1106] What is microlight?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "microlight" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "microlight is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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jeremycherfas I wonder whether my old Kodak Zi8 camera could be repurposed for streaming.
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[jgmac1106] microlight is a blogging engine built on PHP, MySQL, and IndieWeb principles of POSSE. Currently in alpha microlight supports the following post types: note, article, photo, and video. Microlight is developed and maintained by Tom Gardiner.
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Loqi ok
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[Rose] Is there a link to a git repo for microlight?
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jeremycherfas https://github.com/TomboFry/microlight
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Loqi [TomboFry] microlight: A fully IndieWeb-compatible PHP blogging engine
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[jgmac1106] yeah don't know how to write dfn and include the link..I always have to go back and edit
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[Rose] microlight << https://github.com/TomboFry/microlight
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jeremycherfas I'll let you do that [jgmac1106]
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Loqi ok, I added "https://github.com/TomboFry/microlight" to a brand new "See Also" section of /microlight https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=60679&oldid=60678
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Loqi [TomboFry] microlight: A fully IndieWeb-compatible PHP blogging engine
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[Rose] I just added it to see also as an intermediary solution 🙂
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[jgmac1106] we may have stepped on each other
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[jgmac1106] i will delete my edit
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[Rose] I hope not! Sorry
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[jgmac1106] no its fun
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[jgmac1106] means everyones working
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[jgmac1106] it I was ten I would call jinx and you would own me owe a coke but I don't know how to call jinx in wiki markup
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[Rose] Maybe we need a Loqi feature? 😛
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[jgmac1106] ooh it is written SQLite not MySQL
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[Rose] I'll let you edit
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[Rose] Support for MySQL is planned
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[jgmac1106] doing a PHPcourse now..very slowly..end of semester hard....but will help having functions to look at
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[Rose] Ooh, [eddie] has an empty repo for an app that would publishing healthkit data to MicroPub, what are other people doing with health data? I know that FitBit has an API
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[Rose] (Looking for what people do with data they have retrieved, not a discussion on how they get it per sae 😛)
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sknebel I was talking with Zegnat about that last night
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sknebel sure, could be collecting tons of (or tons more, in his case) data, but what would we do with it that'd actually have an impact
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sknebel (collecting GPS logs for trips just in case I come up with a use later)
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[Rose] Well, having the data so you can do stuff with it is definitely a start.
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[Rose] I'm tracking all my travel already, just need to start publishing it. I'm hoping to steal some ideas from Aaron next week
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sknebel right, but our point was more towards more data: worth the effort of collecting it if we can't even come up with a later use?
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[Rose] That's true, but if you come up with a use and have no data...
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[jgmac1106] Did the egg post type come before the chicken post type?
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[jgmac1106] but here is an interesting use case for future...my son gets all his baseball stats live (someone enters data and a video voice narrates the game for parents who can't go) nobody collecting ERA and WHIP data but I wanna save it somewhere somehow for him on his site....if I can get it out of course
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[jgmac1106] ooh looks like it may have schema...if I figure out how to download....was worried about the company and kids data: http://tech.gc.com/open-source/
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jeremycherfas I'd be interested in how to access sleep data from either iOS or Garmin.
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[Rose] Well, there are several apps on iOS which work with sleep data. And a few of those have export functions.
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[Zegnat] In the shuttle bus with 2 minutes to spare. Timing on point.
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[Zegnat] Or maybe that is because [Rose] books my flights and times it this way 😉
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[Zegnat] Whoops, I thought I was in the chat channel!
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[Zegnat] Slack confusing me
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[Rose] -> Chat
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[Rose] And on another topic, is anyone doing anything with tagmoji actively? https://help.micro.blog/2018/tagmoji/
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[Rose] I know it's a micro.blog thing, but I'm thinking of automatically adding some of these to certain posts. Maybe [eddie]'s Nintendo Switch play log will come in handy here.
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jeremycherfas !tell [Rose] ir is the raw data I want, to develop a personal measure of sleep quality. Garmin gives me deep, light and awake but I can't find a way to get that in machine-readable format.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[Zegnat] I feel like aaronpk did clickable emoji tags? But maybe I am misremembering.
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[jgmac1106] I have never tried on Known but on microblog it always made me think...why isn't each post type just an emoji...
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[Rose] jgmac1106 That would be for privacy reasons. You can filter for tagmoji, but not for post kinds
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[Rose] At least, that's my obvious first thought
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[jgmac1106] ahh never thoguht about the privacy implications. Just makes for smart discovery on micro.blog
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[Rose] Discovery is great, if you're aware that you can be discovered.
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[jgmac1106] plus you get the added semiotic network effect of "being in the know" helps strenthen membership ties
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[jgmac1106] the dark side of membership it by definition is exclusionary
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[jgmac1106] doesn't work for me on Known yet unless I do it manually: https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/05/06/bad-tv-show-the-same-as-watched
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Loqi [Greg McVerry] #📺bad tv show the same as #watched bad tv show?
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[jgmac1106] but you could have so much fun...I wanted to make (well i could never do it) a slot machine for microblog where you pull the lever and get three different random emojitags for discovery
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[tantek] that's a great indiewebcamp discovery project proposal [jgmac1106]
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[jgmac1106] heading to office but posted a quick follow up in -dev
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[jgmac1106] an interesting idea if an author notes that they turn comments off should I respect that and not send webmentions (just link from my site )...though I have all native comments off as spam protection so would be exception to my own rule
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aaronpk if the author turns off comments they should also turn off displaying and/or receiving webmentions with that
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aaronpk it's something on the receiver's end, not the sender's end
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Zegnat If they turn of comments, but still advertise a webmention endpoint: send the webmention, apparently they want to receive them
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[eddie] Yeah the sender shouldn’t have to worry about it. I can imagine making a post have private comments so I can receive them but not display them
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[eddie] And then for “no comments” and Zegnat said, I’d remove the endpoint
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aaronpk 👍
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GWG Back
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[jgmac1106] thx
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gRegorLove_ Good morning, indieweb
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chrisaldrich Hello IndieWeb Town! I'm glad I live here. "So far coming back to Twitter has felt like visiting your hometown: it’s great to visit but it’s also a reminder of how much you enjoy not living there anymore." --Adam Croom https://boffosocko.com/2019/05/05/dumb-twitter-adam-croom-3/
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[schmarty] o/ hi indieweb folks! looking forward to catching up on all the happenings from Berlin!
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[Rose] Berlin was great fun! All the streamed videos are on YouTube.
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[schmarty] that's one of the things that help me fight FOMO, haha!
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[Rose] Yes, the vouch discussion was definitely interesting, lots of things to think about.
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jacky listening to the Vouch video now!
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[manton] [Rose] Let me know if you experiment more with emoji! I still think Micro.blog's tagmoji has a lot of potential, but I haven't done much recently to expand it.
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[Rose] I will! I'm planning on working on that as an easy project next weekend (well, as it stands, let's see what happens!).
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[manton] Sounds good!
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[manton] And I hope everyone had a good time in Berlin. I'm still catching up on the videos and notes.
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chrisaldrich Rose, I know I've seen someone on WordPress add emojis to their tags/categories, which seemed kind of cool.
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chrisaldrich I think it's https://xavierroy.com/, scroll to the bottom of his page....
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chrisaldrich based on what I see there a &nbsp; between a tag name and the emoji may be your best friend...
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[frank] [cleverdevil] I have some problems with Indiepaper. Somehow it doesn't connect to my (hosted) Aperture account. I am not sure what is going wrong...Where can I look for debug info?
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[filipe] Hi folks! I left in a bit of a rush on Saturday, and I couldn't join the Berlin event on Sunday due to volunteering. Anyway, I just wanted to thank everyone for the amazing input and feedback. It was really inspiring and I especially loved [Yulia]'s keynote and [Zegnat]'s website easter egg. Also a huge thank you to everyone that took part in the session I suggested, I'm so glad to have gone through that conversation 🙂
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[cleverdevil] [frank] so, there isn't much in the way of debug for users right now.
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[cleverdevil] Was it working and then stopped?
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[cleverdevil] Or have you never actually had it work?
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