#indieweb 2019-05-30

2019-05-30 UTC
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snarfed also now you can have your Android phone *be* your security key, which gives you the phishing protection on mobile without the new physical thing
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snarfed should probably #-chat at this point i guess
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brandur Hello!
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jacky o/
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[tantek] welcome brandur!
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brandur Thanks Tantek! (We're sitting together IRL at Mozilla.)
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[Rose] Good morning IndieWeb
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jeremycherfas Good morning [Rose] and IndieWeb
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[kevinmarks786] Maciej wrote about how Google APP is too complicated https://idlewords.com/2019/05/what_i_learned_trying_to_secure_congressional_campaigns.htm
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[jgmac1106] <-- is the exact wrong person to have his security tied to a physical device....I would have to look for may wallet, my keys, and my password now
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nellkate1[m] Just wanted to quickly say that I tried the Matrix bridge links (the one to the wordpress room) and it worked well. Using my laptop to get there. Thank you for putting those in!
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jgmac1106 no problem nellkate still trying to discover the pattern of searching for the rooms, sometimes I could get them to show other times I could not
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nellkate1[m] Thank you very much for the work you're putting in. I'm still trying to figure out Matrix and IM in general but am happy to try things out. 🙂
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jgmac1106 kevinmarks even more interesting is the link I followed in the thread from the lawyer: https://github.com/supertunaman/cdl
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Loqi [supertunaman] cdl: Chicken Dance License! The official IANAL license.
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jgmac1106 what is peertube?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "peertube" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "peertube is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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jgmac1106 What is Peertube?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Peertube" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Peertube is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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jgmac1106 What is PeerTube?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "PeerTube" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "PeerTube is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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jgmac1106 does anyone use PeerTube? Have an instance they recommend?
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sknebel I only occasionally watch stuff on instances, don't use it to post myself
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[jgarber] !tell tantek Catching up on the 2FA conversation and it reminded me that Google’s Pixelbooks have a built-in U2F security key: https://9to5google.com/2018/06/08/pixelbook-power-button-u2f-security-key/
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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aaronpk That's great
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[jgarber] Google’s Advanced Protection Program is actually pretty good for those its intended for: “journalists, activists, business leaders, and political campaign teams.”
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[jgarber] For the average Google user, strong password plus TOTP or security key (e.g. Yubikey) is sufficient. All depends on your threat profile.
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Zegnat Good morning IndieWeb
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sknebel morning Zegnat!
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jeremycherfas Morning zegnat
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Zegnat Having a bit of a slow and lazy day on this bank holiday. Do people have any fun indieweb projects to share?
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jeremycherfas Not fun, but decided to start wrapping my head around js.
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jgmac1106 wow so promoting indieweb camp on Twitter and now every single website is serving me OSCON ads, probably portland as key word
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petermolnar jeremycherfas: vanilla js? jquery? react? It matters :)
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jeremycherfas Vanilla? From javascript.info
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Zegnat that site looks interesting, thanks for sharing!
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jeremycherfas All started because I couldn't really wrap my head around where to put <scripts> in head, before footer, some other place etc etc. So I thought I may as well make the necessary effort.
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petermolnar wow, that is a nice learning page
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jeremycherfas Yikes; I seem to have uncovered something of value, quite by accident.
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jgmac1106 thx sknebel owning your video and all sounds great….till you look at the files sizes…..don’t want to use archive.org or YouTube as it is my kid and I don’t want to choose his license let him choose when older
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sknebel not convinced that's actually that much of a problem nowadays, at least at small scale
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jgmac1106 it is when you are two gigd away from the next tier of pricing
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jgmac1106 ohh you mean the license stuff….guess I could do private on YouTube
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sknebel no, the traffic
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jgmac1106 yeah bandwidth I am not worried about..it is the storage and the process of uploading
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jgmac1106 500-700 kb/s to s3…..4 gigs gonna take forever…..
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aaronpk what kind of videos? 4 gigs is a really long video...
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jgmac1106 just 9 minutes of my son talking stuffed animals…he probably went full screen on my iMac..didn’t think about stepping on it..did seem quite large
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jgmac1106 he filmed himself in Quicktime
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sknebel lol yeah
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aaronpk oh
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aaronpk yes that can definitely be compressed
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sknebel 10 mins 720p is <100MB on e.g. YT
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jgmac1106 yeah, time to compress
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jgmac1106 didn’t even think about it thx all
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jgmac1106 ….and then he rememebers Creative Cloud changed policies with University and now I can get the suite at the great price of “29.95” a month…..grrrrr stupid hard drive crash…off to work laptop
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Zegnat And this is why I like YouTube, it handles all the reencodings, haha. When using Archive.org for hosting IWC videos you don’t get that, for instance, so you will always have to put up the bandwidth costs.
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Zegnat Although it looks like the Zoom videos aren’t too bad
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jgmac1106 okay 513 mb now
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petermolnar ffmpeg -i [fname] [fname].desiredformat
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petermolnar although that doesn't resize
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Zegnat preferaly you put in a few more arguments to that command so you get a nice browser-compatible encoding and all that jazz
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[kevinmarks786] https://twitter.com/i/events/1134093646527995904?s=13
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jacky do we have to have a page for _anything_ we come across?
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jacky like some stuff like peertube, pixelfed, etc could fit on /ActivityPub
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jacky versus having super small pages
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jacky is also not 100% familiar with wiki etiquette and if smaller pages are better than disregard my comments
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Zegnat I believe we have previously said that new pages are fine if they are indieweb related, or if people are using it?
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Zegnat Maybe also good to create pages if we see people ask the “What is?” question in chat.
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jeremycherfas Maybe it would be a good idea if loqi could go to sections on pages
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jeremycherfas Or maybe he can already.
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infominer[m] jacky: idk wiki etiquette either, but I know search engines value long-form content
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infominer[m] if we are discussing related or tangental projects...
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infominer[m] for my own reference:
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infominer[m] >The IndieWeb is a people-focused alternative to the "corporate web".
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infominer[m] one related project that I'm really interested to dive into \ hear experiences of is scuttlebot
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[jgmac1106] What is scuttlebut?
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Loqi Secure Scuttlebutt is a P2P system to sync message feeds, used to build (among others) social applications that work in off-grid/sneakernet scenarios https://indieweb.org/scuttlebut
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jacky infominer[m]: eh, screw a search engine
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jacky lol
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infominer[m] ahha, well, I do get frustrated if I forget to check my website first
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infominer[m] :P
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[jgmac1106] social search IMO more important now, rarely start at search engines now when I want to learn
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infominer[m] I'm quite drawn to and inspired by the awesome lists
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infominer[m] https://github.com/chaconnewu/awesome-augmented
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infominer[m] IMO, the entire content marketing industry has missed the boat.. and so I'm just taking the opportunity while I can... there is so much value to add everywhere I look..
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infominer[m] haven't caught up w google's search algo yet. long form educational content is where its at... but lists of resources are even longerlasting and add value to a wider audience
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jeremycherfas As long as they don’t suffer too much linkrot.
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infominer[m] first the internal.. links and foundational components...
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infominer[m] next: automated archiving, link reports and swapping
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infominer[m] but what really needs is a bot on github to do that too.. check all the awesome(and informational) repos for broken links, archive, check for archived copies, submit pull-requests
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[tantek] jacky, you can do both. Add stuff like peertube, pixelfed, etc on /ActivityPub in their own subsections, then add page name redirects to those sections
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Loqi [tantek]: [jgarber] left you a message 5 hours, 18 minutes ago: Catching up on the 2FA conversation and it reminded me that Google’s Pixelbooks have a built-in U2F security key: https://9to5google.com/2018/06/08/pixelbook-power-button-u2f-security-key/
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infominer[m] [tantek]: for the win! good idea
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Zegnat Just noticed fun design aspect: when you write in the search box on netflix.com, the search query parameter in the URL bar automatically keeps in sync
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[manton] Anyone in the San Jose area: I wanted to mention that if you use Micro.blog or are interested in it, we're having a lunch-time meetup on Tuesday. I'll be in town for WWDC. Details and RSVP here: https://forms.gle/hk3s6os51S6VYj3b7
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[tantek] Zegnat ooh that's a neat trick, that's because they update their search results live right?
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