#indieweb 2019-06-24
2019-06-24 UTC
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jgmac1106[m] In celebration of 1.44 million I scroll through my kids website and find this chain of webmentions on a conversation I never knew they had http://dogzone.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/hello-dan
# jgmac1106[m] Made me smile, kids teaching kids websites
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Reply Targets" https://chrisburnell.com/article/reply-targets
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jeremycherfas Good morning, again, IndieWeb
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# [jgmac1106] Hey Jeremy
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# jeremycherfas Hi Greg
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petermolnar do we have a topic on backfilling memento sites? (read: recovering old looks/versions of our websites)
# petermolnar mainly to add links like these: https://help.archive.org/hc/en-us/articles/360001834411-Can-I-rebuild-my-website-using-the-Wayback-Machine-
# petermolnar do we at least have terminology on memento versions?
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "memento" yet. Would you like to create it?_Q (Or just say "memento is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[kevinmarks786] I adapted spideprpig to use internet archive if the linked pages return errors
# [kevinmarks786] though I use mention.tech to do that so it is extra dependencies
# [kevinmarks786] https://github.com/kevinmarks/spiderpig
# [kevinmarks786] (going direct would make more sense; I was being lazy as I'd already written the api calls at mention.tech)
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# [kevinmarks786] I haven't tried that if the root of the site 404s though
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# petermolnar aaronpk look two lines above :) "memento" is the term I've been using for archived old versions of a certain page for your site, preferably a version of how it was originally published; I'm open for suggestions for better terminology
# petermolnar the point would be to have time capsule versions of your entries along with the "current" version
# petermolnar because I loved the idea of "the keep no consistent look", just write HTML, but that is not a viable option for ever changing data structures - even though mf2 has been around for a long while, fine tunes are commonly still needed
# petermolnar I pulled down versions for my entries from archive.org that had hits close enough to their publication dates into the same folders where the markdown files live and for the future, I'll keep a copy of the original render of each entry
# petermolnar hence memento, but time capsule could work as well
# petermolnar still a single stack, these are standalone html files
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# petermolnar for me, archive doesn't necessarily mean the original published version; an archival copy could be made of any existing version
# petermolnar that said, it's still a good term for it
# petermolnar similar, but not the same; I don't wish to have a capture of the while site, but a capture of each entry at their original publication time
# petermolnar (btw it's fascinating to see 2012, 2015, etc versions of indieweb sites and to realize how the same aesthetics influenced a lot of us)
# petermolnar *s/while/whole
# petermolnar eg: https://petermolnar.net/minimalism-is-not-asceticism/index.html -> link on the top "current version | how it originally looked in 2014" -> the second brings you to a version of the 2014 look of that specific entry
# petermolnar the trouble there is that most of the ones I pulled from archive.org pull css & other resources from archive.org, but it's not that bad
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# petermolnar well, that is, if it works
# petermolnar I'm still tuning the process
# petermolnar is there a scientific-ish term for original copy?
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# jeremycherfas In biology, the original specimen is the holotype.
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# [jgmac1106] taking a train to a virtual conference, me likes
# jeremycherfas I'm only just back from holidays, so unable to make it.
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# sknebel vhwc at https://zoom.us/j/4955358768
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# Loqi [indienews] New post: "Talking about the IndieWeb at OggCamp 2019" https://www.jvt.me/posts/2019/06/24/indieweb-talk-oggcamp/
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# Loqi friending (AKA add friend or the verb to friend) is a general term applied to the various silo user interactions with sites regarding reciprocal friendship https://indieweb.org/friends
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "relation" yet. Would you like to create it?_R (Or just say "relation is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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