#indieweb 2019-06-25

2019-06-25 UTC
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snarfed interesting report on the current state of Facebook POSSE: https://www.theverge.com/2019/6/24/18700806/social-network-manager-facebook-twitter-instagram-multiple-how-to-post-at-once
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aaronpk "social network manager"
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[jgmac1106] because you need a "Buffer"
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[jgmac1106] I mean a good name for the app, will give them that
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[tantek] welcome [Lesley_Sim]!
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Loqi [tantek]: snarfed left you a message 1 day, 9 hours ago: updated stats at https://snarfed.org/2019-01-02_bridgy-stats-update-4#comment-2731107 . key pieces of news since last year: facebook backfeed shut down in august 2018, google+ in march 2019, and estimate of total webmentions sent in the wild as of june 2019: 1.44M!
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[jgmac1106] Good morning all,
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
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jgmac1106 I gave up on IRC on Android, mainly because my carrier blocks it and if I switch off of wifi, battery just tanks
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glenn[m]2 <jgmac1106 "I gave up on IRC on Android, mai"> You could use an Android Matrix client and access the chat via the matrix bridge: #freenode_#indieweb:matrix.org
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sknebel that's what he's doing
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jgmac1106 that is what I do, honestly end up hopping back and forth because too many communities on too many platforms, move between Slack, IRC, and Matrix
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glenn[m]2 Ah! Ok, I just saw you join and then post the previous comment - maybe I didn't scroll back far enough... ;-)
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jgmac1106 And I should say I gave up on IRC on Verizon, it works fine on Android
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glenn[m]2 <jgmac1106 "that is what I do, honestly end "> That's one of the reasons I'm trying out Matrix myself - to minimise clients and see if I can use them all (or most) through bridges.
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jgmac1106 but luckily smart folks like sknebelmake it so all the places talk, it is a really cool thing folks built here
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petermolnar your carrier blocks it => change carrier. Don't support that.
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[tantek] Also on topic to document that carrier (on the wiki) as blocking an open protocol used to access the IndieWeb community
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[jgmac1106] the best I think the customer service site says "What's an IRC?"
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[jgmac1106] can't archive the site right now but will add this one
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[jgmac1106] https://community.verizonwireless.com/t5/Verizon-Wireless-Services/Why-is-IRC-blocked-on-tethering/td-p/1024493
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[jgmac1106] "We want to ensure we provide any and all options available to help. So we can better assist, please tell us more about what you're trying to connect to. What specifically is an IRC?"
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[Lesley_Sim] Hey!! Thanks for welcoming me! [tantek]
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[Lesley_Sim] Good to be here
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jgmac1106 its a fun little corner of the web
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "👓 What Having a Domain for a Year Has Taught Me | Cassie Nooyen" https://techbar.crnooyen.knight.domains/blog/what-having-a-domain-for-a-year-has-taught-me/ (from https://boffosocko.com/2019/06/24/what-having-a-domain-for-a-year-has-taught-me-cassie-nooyen/)
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[slack_indiewebc I have signed up for [aaronpk]’s webmention.io, and pasted its code into the header.
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[slack_indiewebc Indieweb newbie question: Is there a simple step-by-step guide to get webmentions working?
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[slack_indiewebc Not sure how to add other things though like a form where people can enter their mentions, or how to display those mentions on my own site.
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[frank] [slack_indiewebcamp] maybe this helps? https://aaronparecki.com/2018/06/30/11/your-first-webmention
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[frank] It kinda depends on what platform you use. WordPress has a fine plugin you can use
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[slack_indiewebc [frank] Thanks, I’ll take a look at that. I’m not using WordPress. I have to edit the template/theme myself.
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GWG You don't need webmention.io if you install the webmention plugin
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[slack_indiewebc @GWG I’m not using WordPress. What kind of plug-in do you mean?
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GWG Excuse me, misread what you and what frank said as the same
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GWG Apologies
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[slack_indiewebc How does my website collect and process a reply URL in order to display it on my own website?
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[slack_indiewebc [frank] I’ve read the article and can understand how it works to notify someone else’s website that I have replied.
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[frank] It depends on your setup. With webmention.io you can add some Javascript to your template to collect the incoming replies. Also you need to add the correct endpoint to your templates.
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[chrisaldrich] [slack_indiewebcamp] what platform are you using? Someone may have documented how they did it already.
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[slack_indiewebc [chrisaldrich] Thanks, I initially didn’t know how specific it was to the platform. The platform is Blot (blot.im).
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[slack_indiewebc I just found an article by a blogger I already know. It talks about Blot and webmention.io (yay!) I’ll see how I get along with that.
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Loqi woot
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[chrisaldrich] What is Blot?
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Loqi Blot is an open source blogging platform built by David Merfield that uses Dropbox to store your content https://indieweb.org/Blot
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[chrisaldrich] [slack_indiewebcamp] was it Amit? They've got a link on that ^^ page about it.
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[chrisaldrich] If not, could you add the one you found to it for others?
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[slack_indiewebc [chrisaldrich] Yes, Amit’s tutorial.
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[slack_indiewebc Thanks @Loqi for the link. Maybe there is some other info I can use on that page.
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Loqi you're welcome
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[chrisaldrich] What is Loqi?
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Loqi Loqi is a friendly and useful bot/digital therapist present in the IndieWeb discussion channels https://indieweb.org/Loqi
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[slack_indiewebc [chrisaldrich] It shows Loqi is an “app” on Slack, but I wasn’t sure what kind. Very helpful bot indeed.
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aaronpk everyone from IRC is an "app" on slack
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[slack_indiewebc [aaronpk] One bit I don’t understand about webmention.io is whether I need a form where people type in their reply URL. If not, how does it find the mention on other sites?
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aaronpk sites that send webmentions have a way to find the endpoint by looking at the source code of the page
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aaronpk so you need to add that <link rel="webmention"> tag to your site with your webmention.io URL
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aaronpk the webmention forms you see on peoples' sites is just a convenience for people to send webmentions manually, but most of the time they are sent automatically
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[slack_indiewebc [aaronpk] Okay, Thanks. That bit was confusing.
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[slack_indiewebc I have already added the link for webmention to the site header. I will add the JavaScript according to Amit’s tutorial and see how that goes.
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Loqi friendly reminder aaronpk, [slack_indiewebc, we try to keep dev talk out of this channel, can you move to #indieweb-dev?
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aaronpk Loqi is right, we should move to #indieweb-dev if you want to continue with technical questions :)
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[slack_indiewebc [aaronpk] Will keep in mind if I need to ask more technical stuff.
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[jgmac1106] nibil++
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Loqi nibil has 1 karma over the last year
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[jgmac1106] stupid rain has my hands really bad today
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[jgmac1106] oops
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[jgmac1106] nibl++
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Loqi nibl has 1 karma over the last year
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[Dave_Peck] 👋 hi all. Looking forward to meeting everyone this weekend!
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aaronpk 👋 🎉
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BigShip Anything I should be prepping ahead of time? It's been a bit since I've been to one of these
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GWG Bring your A game?
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[tantek] we have a page for this!
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[tantek] GWG, BigShip, see https://indieweb.org/2019#Participating
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[tantek] in particular see " Learn more: Attending IndieWeb Summit" there
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Royaljello hey all
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[tantek] and in particular: https://indieweb.org/IndieWebCamps/Attendance
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[snarfed] wow new twitter UI feels like it's aimed at preschoolers
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[kevinmarks786] it's the mobile UI, now on desktop too
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aaronpk it looks like a toy
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[kevinmarks786] or did they change the iOS app too?
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