#indieweb 2019-07-01
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gRegorLove ... his Heroku might have gone down; free tier is spun down after bit of idle time
# gRegorLove ... authenticates to his Okta org
# gRegorLove ... can create any number of users in Okta org
# gRegorLove ... can set up /MFA
# gRegorLove ... has MFA turned on now; tries logging to indielogin again
# gRegorLove ... shows a push notifictaion on his phone that he approves, then is logged in
# gRegorLove what is MFA
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Loqi multi-factor authentication (commonly two-factor authentication, abbreviated 2FA or TFA) is an authentication process that requires at least a second component to a standard authentication method https://indieweb.org/MFA
# gRegorLove up next: Flaki flak.is
# gRegorLove ... conversation yesterday about static generators and how they send webmentions
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[Micah_Silverman If anyone is interested in playing with the IndieAuth / Okta integration, start here: https://github.com/dogeared/IndieAuthOkta
# gRegorLove ... it's nice that we have aaronpk (and not selling out data?)
# gRegorLove ... dug into webmention.io saw it was mysql, wanted to see what could be done for storage
# gRegorLove ... want to make sure webmention / stored data is private
# gRegorLove ... how can you store state on the internet that is free as in beer, but also private?
# gRegorLove ... ended up at IPFS
# gRegorLove ... lets you store data in the swarm
# gRegorLove ... as long as you're the only one with the private key, your data can be stored on others computers and only you can access it
# gRegorLove ... how about using Indie Box to host your site, but as a peer in IPFS to help out the community
# gRegorLove ... things to ponder and discuss
# [Micah_Silverman multifactor authentication
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jacky mentioned https://www.kickscondor.com/ and the use of dat on it
# gRegorLove That was for Loqi, our bot. We have that page.
# [Micah_Silverman you can define a number of different factors (google authenticator, sms, okta verify, yubikey) and then you have to satisfy one of those factors after you authenticate
# gRegorLove up next: Jack Jamieson
# gRegorLove ... yarns will try to find all feeds on a site
# gRegorLove ... shows split screen. Left side is old code, right side is newer.
# gRegorLove ... clicks search on left side, going slowly; clicking search on right side and it's already found the feeds
# gRegorLove ... finally the left side catches up
# gRegorLove ... new one is faster and finds more feeds (tantek.com has multiple h-feeds)
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# gRegorLove ... worked with David Bryant on webmentions, found an issue with his site. The reply-context was coming through in post content. edited theme to fix it.
# gRegorLove (mf2 parsers parse properties within e-content)
# gRegorLove sorry, missed that demo
# gRegorLove up next: aaronpk.com
# gRegorLove ... at cleverdevil's request, made small change to /Aperture
# gRegorLove ... can now name your feeds
# gRegorLove ... nameless feeds now shortened to their domain name, e.g. long granary.io URLs
# gRegorLove ... live demo posting from /Quill
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[cleverdevil] ... these feed names are also now available via the microsub API for Aperture, which will be very useful for social readers!
# gRegorLove ... colorful backgrounds based on hex color as hashtag
# gRegorLove up next: tantek tantek.com
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# gRegorLove ... thought he'd be working on reply contexts but went down a rabbit hole, needed to re-think UX
# [Jamey_Sharp] IndieWeb Summit is going on! https://indieweb.org/2019/Schedule#Sunday
# gRegorLove ... currently shows a very minimal reply context "reply to a tweet"
# gRegorLove ... no icon for person or idea what they said
# gRegorLove ... github reply context shows issue number and title (documented on github)
# gRegorLove ... RSVP to gRegor's event doesn't know it's an event so just says "gregorlove.com's post"
# gRegorLove ... planned to use /Xray at post time to preview reply-context
# gRegorLove ... where should the reply-context be stored? Marty suggested sidefile, since it's not your content
# gRegorLove ... decided to document issues with reply-context. Person's name could be "wrong", their URL, location, or some phrase
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# [Jamey_Sharp] Hmmm, that sounds slightly different than private posts, right? This is about what might be a public event but only the authorized rsvps count?
# gRegorLove ... opened an Xray issue to do original post discovery
# gRegorLove up next: Jordan mjordan.codes
# gRegorLove [schmarty] can you take over for a moment
# [Jamey_Sharp] oh interesting!
# [Jamey_Sharp] I'm not sure I understand how that should work in an indieweb context :-)
# gRegorLove last demo was Andi, missed it; think it was about photos she took and posted this weekend
# gRegorLove Demos done, closing remarks from aaronpk and tantek
# gRegorLove 51 sign ins yesterday out of 60 tickets sold
# gRegorLove IndieWeb Summit 2020 date is set! 2019-06-27..28
# gRegorLove registration isn't open yet (soon!) but save the date
# gRegorLove *2020-06-27..28
# [Jamey_Sharp] ++gRegorLove for notes here during all these presentations
# gRegorLove (dates are hard. also how on earth is it almost 2020)
# gRegorLove [Jamey_Sharp], mblaney and I will work up a post (or posts) about the /AutoAuth we worked on
# gRegorLove Signing off from IWS 2019!
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KartikPrabhu Uptown Funck
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# KartikPrabhu ok then "THis is America" #84
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# nuggit so where's the twitch stream for karaoke?
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[dmitshur] weekend project results: https://github.com/shurcooL/home/issues/26#issue-462486667
# [dmitshur] (there are screenshots in that GitHub issue)
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[schmarty] gRegorLove++ for amazing live notes of the demos! sorry I missed your ping earlier, I was out of chat and slack didn't notify me until i was back. 😩
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# patterson The live transciption was fabulous
# patterson In fact I think I'd rather talk to her
# patterson Kevin Marks come in herte often?
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# [xavierroy] Hi [dshanske]
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[jeremycherfas] Thanks to everyone at Summit and Åmål who diminished the FOMO so effectively. Looking forward to watching the keynotes too.
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[jgmac1106] I have screenshots of Åmål not as good but something..
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# [Dave_Peck] 👋 It was great meeting everyone this weekend. Thanks again, all!
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# jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
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# jeremycherfas Sounds like you will have a lot of time to do that.
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# [Vanessa] Morning Jeremy.
# jeremycherfas Morning [Vanessa]
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petermolnar this is partially -dev, but not truly: one of the biggest problems I have with static sites is the lack of any option to properly do HTTP 410 and HTTP 302 or 301. Apart from search, this is the sole reason why I keep having a .php fallback on not found which acts as a proxy and returns proper codes. I believe this is a fundamental missing piece to go "fully static". How is everyone handling these cases? How important you think these ca
# petermolnar ses are?
# petermolnar only on apache; not an option on nginx, lighttpd, hiawata, etc.
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# [jgmac1106] so reading this article about IRC from Hacker News and off to the side is...make a blog and write your first post and I will give you $20
# petermolnar I guess it doesn't apply to people who'd started doing it in '99
# petermolnar oh. my "I have a website" thing is going to turn 20 in September. hm.
# [jgmac1106] petermolnar++
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# [Ben_Connors] Good morning from Wash DC. I’m Ben. Excited to find this community.
# petermolnar hi Ben
# jeremycherfas Welcome [Ben_Connors] Do you already have a website?
# [Ben_Connors] Hey. I do [jeremycherfas] but I’m in the process of leaving dreamhost in favor of a LAMP server on a Pi at home, so I can’t really point you to it.
# [Ben_Connors] I’ve been running wordpress for personal stuff, but a few years ago I got into OcoberCMS for a work project. http://www.sandbox.video/blog/ anyone here use OctoberCMS or got opinions about it, and whether it has a healthy future?
# jeremycherfas No problem. I'm on dreamhost myself, but don't really have the skill to self host, not even on a Pi.
# jeremycherfas Quite a coincidence. I moved the Grav a little while ago, and just a couple of days ago first learned of October CMS as a result of someone saying the Grav forum that they preferred it.
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# petermolnar LAMP on Pi -> careful there, mysql can wear out that sd card
# jeremycherfas [jgmac1106] would love the cards on that site.
# [Ben_Connors] Hmmm, thanks Peter. That’s definitely a bit over my head. I’m most comfortable on a LAMP stack, any other hardware you’d suggest? I’m serving files off an external drive, maybe I could move my DB there as well.
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# [Micah_Silverman Had a great time with y'all! Imma make a screencast about setting up the okta indieauth integration once I add in the token endpoint...
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "OctoberCMS" yet. Would you like to create it?_q (Or just say "OctoberCMS is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# [Ben_Connors] Happy to! BTW I snagged those CSS effects here:
# [Ben_Connors] https://tympanus.net/Development/HoverEffectIdeas/index2.html [jeremycherfas] & [jgmac1106].
# jeremycherfas I think [jgmac1106]'s main concern is building a grid that flows and stuff.
# petermolnar [Ben_Connors]: I'd just suggest to get a good sd card, samsung pro endurance or similar, those take a lot more, than the cheaper ones. It shouldn't be an issue for a while, especially if the database is mainly read, not wrote
# jeremycherfas But those are pretty cool.
# [Ben_Connors] Thanks @loqi having some trouble finding a place to create an account.
# [jgmac1106] yeah, its a love hate relagtionship with my symmetrical design, at one point perfect layout required me to be exact in my character count...so now I can be a little sloppier in my copy...so I lose the constraint that drives creativity...at the other end designing cards with a mix of CSS Grid and flexbox to get design I want was hard
# [jgmac1106] mJordan did a wonderful job teaching me subgrid (only works in Nightly) there is a codepen and all the Rachel Andrew tutorials in the etherpad
# [jgmac1106] Ben Connors...you don't create an account on the wiki you log in with your domain
# [Ben_Connors] Thanks. I’ll have to revisit, and write the wiki stub outside of work hours. Nice to meet you all. [sebsel] ```October is a free, open-source, self-hosted CMS platform based on the Laravel PHP Framework```https://octobercms.com/
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "October" yet. Would you like to create it?_r (Or just say "October is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# Guest31715 oi
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sebsel October is a free, open-source, self-hosted CMS platform based on the Laravel PHP Framework https://octobercms.com/
# [jgmac1106] that first time question always messes people up when they think you are asking it
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# jeremycherfas I thought in general we weren't adding things to the wiki without an indieweb angle? Of course, October CMS could be used in that way, but is anyone doing so?
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# jeremycherfas I do not know. I searched plugins and themes, and there was nothing obvious. But having that kind of structure, there could be, one day.
# jeremycherfas Grav is the same. Nothing much out of the box, but has users who make it do IndieWeb things.
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# jeremycherfas None of the most obvious words show up in issues either, open or closed.
# [jgmac1106] I checked no building block plugins
# [jgmac1106] yeah and there are community plugins being built for Grav by community memebers
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# Loqi [indienews] New post: "IndieWeb Summit day 2: Authl finally gets some love" http://beesbuzz.biz/blog/6715-IndieWeb-Summit-day-2-Authl-finally-gets-some-love (from https://aaronparecki.com/2019/07/01/13/)
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# Loqi [indienews] New post: "IndieWeb Summit hack day" https://unicyclic.com/mal/2019-07-02-IndieWeb_Summit_hack_day
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