#indieweb 2019-07-11

2019-07-11 UTC
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prtksxna Are the homebrew website clubs open to remote participation?
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[KevinMarks] Some are - the first few we linked SF and PORTLAND. There are online ones too.
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prtksxna Nice. Thanks [KevinMarks]!
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GWG We used to have IWC Virtual America around this time.
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GWG Probably due for another one
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chrisaldrich Does this browser make my website look fat? https://twitter.com/katiehempenius/status/1133209127000379393
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[tantek] wow
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[tantek] performance << https://twitter.com/katiehempenius/status/1133209127000379393 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7n3n2KWkAMnnP5.jpg
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@katiehempenius How many sites* are getting larger? Over 1 year: 70% of sites got larger. 47% of sites increased JS by 100 KB+. 18% of sites grew by 1 MB+. * Alexa Top 10K sites, July 2018 vs July 2017, via @HTTPArchive https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7n3n2KWkAMnnP5.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/1133209127000379393)
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Loqi ok, I added "https://twitter.com/katiehempenius/status/1133209127000379393 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7n3n2KWkAMnnP5.jpg" to the "See Also" section of /performance https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=63513&oldid=62819
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[tantek] nice discovery [chrisaldrich] - lots more charts & graphs both on her Twitter and personal site
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jacky running speed tests of sites from https://developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed/insights/
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[tantek] jacky and I are checking out ^^^ and finding all sorts of things (link found from twitter.com/katiehempenius
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jacky scoring guide https://developers.google.com/web/tools/lighthouse/v3/scoring
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jacky relevant from her: https://twitter.com/katiehempenius/status/1136360974020222978
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@katiehempenius "Software is getting slower more rapidly than hardware becomes faster." - Wirth's Law Coined in this 1995 article, "A Plea for Lean Software": https://cr.yp.to/bib/1995/wirth.pdf (twitter.com/_/status/1136360974020222978)
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jacky is finding lots of interesting links off her account
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jacky https://indieweb.org/cities
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jacky what is Lwa
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Loqi Lwa is a in-progress social reader by Jacky Alciné at https://lwa.black.af that aims to provide an adaptive approach to rendering social feeds https://indieweb.org/Lwa
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jacky Lwa << Microsub
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Loqi ok, I added "[[Microsub]]" to a brand new "See Also" section of /Lwa https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=63521&oldid=59166
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jacky ahh I was going to add Microsub/Servers
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Loqi jacky: it looks like this conversation is getting pretty technical, can you take it to #indieweb-dev?
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jacky grrr
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Loqi [indienews] New post: https://v2.jacky.wtf/post/1d71ccda-5920-46bb-b985-3dfd705915b0
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nellkate1[m] That was a really interesting discussion on the intricacies of private/unlisted and public posts. Thank you because it's something that I've been struggling to work out in my own head as I get started with the IndieWeb (and learning about websites/blogging in general). I'd be happy to help, too (not just with privacy issues).
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GWG nellkate1[m]: What type of posting do you want to do?
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nellkate1[m] I'm wondering how do you write different things for different audiences. Some of that would be public (flowers, crafty stuff), some for specific audiences (family vacations or topics that one wouldn't feel comfortable talking about with a larger audience but would like to have a small group to exchange ideas with) and professional/job hunting safe to see stuff.
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GWG I have not figured out what to do with unlisted
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nellkate1[m] Also, I share information/resources with a group of retirees, who are still learning technology and it has to be easy for them to access.
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nellkate1[m] I'd never heard of unlisted before. It's nice to know it's an option.
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GWG I am just keenly aware of the lessons I've seen in how difficult it is to maintain the tools of an audience
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GWG As in... keeping the lists maintained and remembering to set it for posts
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GWG Unlisted has the problem anyone can link to it
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nellkate1[m] Maintenance does seem to be a big job!
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[tantek] It is / can be!
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[tantek] Related: https://IndieWeb.org/publics
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nellkate1[m] Thank you for the link - it's great. It's really nice to see how other people are working these same issues through in their own minds.
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GWG Too many issues
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nellkate1[m] Oops, sorry. Did I say something wrong? I do tend to suffer from "hoof in mouth" disease.
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[KevinMarks] This is the next step in Aaron's avatar changing with mood https://techblog.eyeson.team/post/memelearning/
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GWG No... I am just saying that there is always a lot to figure out.
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GWG My list grows sometimes more than it shrinks
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GWG But it keeps me busy
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GWG And we've made strides in the last 5 years since I joined the community
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GWG Has it really been that long? Hmm..
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nellkate1[m] All the work you all have done and documented has been really helpful to someone just coming in...
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nellkate1[m] We humans are such beautifully complicated creatures. As my Dad used to say "If it were easy, it would be done by now." 🙂
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GWG If it were easy, it would also not be as interesting
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nellkate1[m] And to quote Doctor Who, "A straight line may be the shortest distance between two points but it is by no means the most interesting." 🙂
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nellkate1[m] Sorry to throw silly quotes around. And do let me know how I can help.
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GWG However you want to. Any help is appreciated
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GWG So, what interests you?
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[xavierroy] Would "audience" cover the different posts for different groups?
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[eddie] Maybe? Maybe not? Lol
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[eddie] There’s been lots of discussion on the topic
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[eddie] It seems like audience is just meant currently as a “heads up, this is the general group of people this is for”
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[eddie] But not in a way that actually controls who can and can not see the post
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[eddie] For some more technical background there’s some discussion here: https://github.com/indieweb/micropub-extensions/issues/12
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Loqi [EdwardHinkle] #12 New Property: Audience
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[grantcodes] https://www.futurebook.co/
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[grantcodes] Was this found at the iws futures session?
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nellkate1[m] Sorry not to answer earlier! I have to run (sudden tutoring communications chaos). Will be happy to chat later. Thank you!
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GWG I need to watch some videos
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[tantek] did you watch the videos of the session you were not in at Summit?
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GWG Those are the ones I need to get to watching
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GWG I just haven't found a way to get archive.org onto my TV
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GWG I was using a Roku, but I don't think they have an app
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[snarfed] woo, first backfed comment from facebook notification email! https://xavierroy.com/2019/07/05/weekend-plans/#comment-3021
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