#indieweb 2019-07-30

2019-07-30 UTC
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[prtksxna] Trying to connect through the Slack app
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[prtksxna] It works! I guess I’ll try this for a while, don’t like my name showing up in [square brackets] on IRC though 😕
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[prtksxna] Anyone here getting affected by the new Github restrictions?
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[xavierroy] [prtksxna] What restrictions?
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[prtksxna] [xavierroy] https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/29/8934694/github-us-trade-sanctions-developers-restricted-crimea-cuba-iran-north-korea-syria
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[xavierroy] yeah. think India is not under US sanctions now 🙂
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[xavierroy] Slack also does the same: https://techcrunch.com/2018/12/22/slack-says-it-will-comply-with-sanctions/
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[prtksxna] So important to keep core services decentralized
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Zegnat Thankfully git is super decentralised
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aaronpk The things that GitHub makes git useful for are not 😔
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mblaney refuses to think about creating an indieweb version of github
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aaronpk It's a trap!
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[tonz] there’s a certain contradiction in the metaphorical phrasing of ‘core services’ needing to be decentralized.
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[Michael_Beckwit issues tracking is the biggest centralized downfall in my mind still
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Zegnat Yeah, selfhosted issue tracking is something that is on my itchlist
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[tonz] (something similar goes for all the trello / slack etc stuff. I have a personal GTD system, and all too often need to replicate stuff to trello boards, slack lists, MS teams whatev, cause they don’t play nice together from their own silos)
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[tonz] (which is fine if you have 1 employer, but I have ‘binders full’ of clients all with their own set-ups
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[tonz] )
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[prtksxna] Even stuff like calendars and contacts. I can't figure out how my clients (native MacOS) could sync the same information to say Google AND own cloud.
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[tonz] True
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Zegnat I really want to try https://sourcehut.org/ at some point and see if it scratches my itch for selfhosting an issue tracking
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cweiske i'm also interested in self-hosted issue tracking
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jamietanna[m] Re GitHub restrictions, its unfortunate that its going to balloon further to a number of US tech companies, real shame
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[fluffy] Regarding issue tracking, I’ve always wondered how difficult it would be to establish a convention of just having like an `.issues` directory inside the repo where people write the issues in markdown and check in changes for conversationsa bout the issue and then like use the filename to indicate whether it’s open/in review/closed/whatever
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[fluffy] the merge for the branch that closes the issue would rename the file
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[fluffy] so then like if you merge from upstream then you automagically merge the state of the issues that have been closed or whatever
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Zegnat I think I have seen several projects like that already [fluffy]. They hardly ever catch on.
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[xavierroy] https://fossil-scm.org/home/doc/trunk/www/index.wiki
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Zegnat Fossil is an interesting project as well! Before we get too deep into the weeds, may I suggest moving to #indieweb-dev if people want to discuss the pros and cons of different decentralised trackers? :)
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GWG Hello, Zegnat. What Indieweb items are you pursuing of late?
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GWG Morning all
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Zegnat Morning GWG!
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Zegnat None really. Though I do have a blog post in the make about webmentions
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GWG Oh?
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GWG Can I ask what about webmentions?
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Zegnat I have just been talking to some people about what they are and so on, and rather than doing the same speech every time I want to write it down
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Zegnat Nothing that will blow your mind there, GWG
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GWG I need to have my mind blown?
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GWG I was commenting not long ago that webmentions don't get enough love lately in the chat
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Zegnat I guess the regulars here are pretty familiar with it now
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[jgmac1106] morning all
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[jgmac1106] webmentions been getting mad love, channels were flooded with links for awhile, nice to see it slow down a bit
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Zegnat That is not in chat though, that was on Twitter ;)
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[jgmac1106] I may try an h-feed only class this fall after folks build websites on Glitch, they wouldn't be able to display webmentions but everyone could subscribe to their notification feed...we will see...probably just keep the h-feed for myself
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[jgmac1106] but that is getting devy
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[jgmac1106] working on this lesson plan now: https://buildyourfirstwebsitelessonplans.glitch.me/lessonfour.html
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Loqi Claim your name: Using metadata in your HTML
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[jgmac1106] and then I need to go and add everyone I followed to my /following page...built up quite the backlog
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Zegnat [jgmac1106]: needs a print stylesheet ;)
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[jgmac1106] search #dev for problems with details/summary and print stylesheets...I love the accordion but problematic for printing
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Zegnat [jgmac1106]: yes, if you do that search, you will find sknebel answered with a solution
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[jgmac1106] would have to add a display: none for all gifs and videos in the print query...oops now that is #dev
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[jgmac1106] yeah I need to spend some time and understand it. Focus on the content first, but excited to try
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[jgmac1106] sknebel++
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Loqi sknebel has 6 karma in this channel over the last year (107 in all channels)
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Zegnat contentfirst++
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Loqi contentfirst has 1 karma over the last year
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[frank] Hey all, quick question, wasn't there an indie alternative for Goodreads? Where you can publish through micropub?
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sknebel What is indiebookclub?
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Loqi indiebookclub is an app for posting books you are reading to your website using Micropub https://indieweb.org/indiebookclub
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[frank] Sknebel++
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Loqi Sknebel has 7 karma in this channel over the last year (108 in all channels)
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[frank] Thanks. Unfortunately I can't send a review with it yet.
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jeremycherfas Hey [frank] I syndicate my reviews by hand from my site to Goodreads
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[jgmac1106] https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/07/30/jny-rise-of-freelance-journalist-and trying to get Matthew Ingram to add IndieWeb Building Blocls to Columbia Journalism Review's site/network Galley
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Loqi [Greg McVerry] @jny Rise of freelance journalist and the demise of many publications means journalist should be their own personal archivist. Can't rely on publishers, plus I could follow an author across different publications. Very few pubs have author feeds.
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "🎧 Counterculture, consumerism and the far right (RN Future Tense)" http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/futuretense/counterculture/11338590 (from https://collect.readwriterespond.com/counterculture-consumerism-and-the-far-right/)
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[snarfed] huh, solid and mastodon joined the data transfer project. https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/30/20746868/apple-data-transfer-project-google-microsoft-twitter
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GWG How is that going?
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