#indieweb 2019-08-09

2019-08-09 UTC
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masmulyawan
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[Rose]
Good Morning IndieWeb
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jeremycherfas
Good morning [Rose]
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sebsel
Good morning!
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Loqi
rise and shine!
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[Lewis_Cowles]
๐Ÿ‘‹
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[Rose]
I approve of the possibility of Zegnat bringing cake to Brighton as a side note
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[Rose]
Now, I have 3 IWCs to book, and IWS attendance to plan, a podcast to edit, a new homepage to design, and I'm going to SF in a week.
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Zegnat
What is in SF in a week?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "in SF in a week" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "in SF in a week is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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Zegnat
You need a calendar on your site, [Rose] ;)
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Ruxton
you need a podcast editor too, *offers services*
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[Rose]
Relay FM 5th anniversary show. And I'm working on the calendar ๐Ÿ˜›
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Zegnat
Hmm, that the one where you can put me down for some CGPGrey/Cortex swag? ;)
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[Rose]
I can try, when I last saw Grey my ankle was broken and I was limping around so naturally forgot. If I see him (I don't know if he'll be there) I'll ask nicely ๐Ÿ˜‰
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[Rose]
Ruxton: One of my shows has a professional editor, and I'm using the other to learn ๐Ÿ˜‰
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[Rose]
Ahh, AirTable + WP Plugin + some code and voilร , I will soon have upcoming events on my site and have them automatically disappear once the event is in the past ๐Ÿ˜„
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[xavierroy]
[Rose] There is a WP plugin for expiring posts
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[Rose]
I know, but I don't want the posts to expire ๐Ÿ˜‰
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[xavierroy]
You can just move them to different category
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[xavierroy]
or add a banner saying this event is over
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[Rose]
I want it to be automatic, if I have to do it manually it won't happen. And the solution mentioned above is one I already have implemented on my recommendations page
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[xavierroy]
๐Ÿ‘
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[Rose]
It seems smart to continue with existing code ๐Ÿ™‚
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GWG
Morning all
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jeremycherfas
Morning GWG
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GWG
Hi, jeremycherfas
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jgmac1106
morning
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Loqi
rise and shine!
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shrysr
morning !
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shrysr
i am in the process of implementing webmentions for my self hosted hugo site (served by LAMP). Since I have a VPS - i'd like to try not rely on 3rd party services. My starting point was https://www.amitgawande.com/indiewebify-hugo-website/ ... I've adopted his open sourced theme and it looks like i have crossed level 1.
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shrysr
one question i had was whether trackbacks / pingbacks would work with other WP sites? If I write a post referencing a post on another site that is based on wp and does not have webmentions - would they still get a trackback?
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jgmac1106
Welcome! shrysr this is more a #dev or #wordpress question in my experience if I send a webmention to a wp site and they do not support webmentions but do display pingbacks and/or trackbacks those will register
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jgmac1106
that was wp to wp, though. I have no experience with the Hugo plugins
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jgmac1106
What is hugo?
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Loqi
Hugo is a static site generator written in Go https://indieweb.org/Hugo
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jgmac1106
might be info there. If more questions head to either #dev and #wordpress and others might have better answers
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shrysr
So i have followed this https://willnorris.com/go/webmention/ and am able to replicate the behavior in the video. I have to figure out / find a script to receive and display webmentions
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jgmac1106
you can try this for sending: https://webmention.app/ and webmention.io for recievingโ€ฆdisplaying is whole other topic and one that would require the #dev channel
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[jgmac1106]
I am not sure if this still works: https://webmention.herokuapp.com/ I think it hit the account limit, haven't checked in awhile
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Loqi
A WebMention Endpoint
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shrysr
is the channel "#dev" ?
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shrysr
i just did / join #dev and see about 4 people there.. ?
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aaronpk
#indieweb-dev
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[jgmac1106]
What is discuss?
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Loqi
Join the #indieweb discussions via the web, Slack, IRC, or Matrix interfaces now with additional channels for dev, wordpress, and meta specific chat! https://indieweb.org/discuss
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[KevinMarks]
shrysr - mention.tech will send and receive, but is missing instructions on how
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jamietanna[m]
[KevinMarks]++ TIL about mention.tech, that's super helpful, especially for all the links on a page
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Loqi
[KevinMarks] has 7 karma in this channel over the last year (37 in all channels)
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[tantek]
I still need to figure out how to semi-automatically submit my IndieWeb related blog posts to IndieNews
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Loqi
[Tantek ร‡elik] Reflecting On IndieWeb Summit: A Start
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aaronpk
you already use bridgy publish right? it works with the same mechanism
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[tantek]
oh really? I thought I had to link to the specific URL where it's going to?
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aaronpk
nope! (that was the original way it worked, but i dropped that requirement years ago)
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[tantek]
is there any reason remaining to visibly link to that? like how I link to the POSSE copy on Twitter?
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aaronpk
to link to the copy on indienews? currently no. indienews used to show comments on the post, but it was hard to post comments there so i just turned off that feature
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[tantek]
got it, I think that's what I was stuck on, figuring out if/how to do that
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[tantek]
so if that's no longer even a consideration then simple Bridgy publish style it is!
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[tantek]
might have to do this one manually
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[tantek]
ah this is what was still confusing me:
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[tantek]
" Also posted on IndieNews"
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[tantek]
I don't do visible Bridgy publish links because those don't make sense for someone to click on
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aaronpk
some people use the category version there too. but yeah it doesn't need to be visible
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[tantek]
and I'm not sure it is good UX for a "Also posted on..." to *not* link to a copy of your post
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aaronpk
like bridgy, indienews also returns the URL that is created on indienews, so you can update your link with that after sending the webmention if you want
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aaronpk
i think that's the reason the placeholder says "also post on indienews"
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[tantek]
for me that's two different links
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[tantek]
one invisible/empty link to Bridgy publish to make it do the POSSE, then it returns a *silo post permalink* that I then create a visible "Also posted on" second link with
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[tantek]
so I'd likely do something similar
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aaronpk
when i use bridgy publish i replace the publish link with the final link
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[tantek]
there's two different code flows that generate those links in my case
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[tantek]
and they don't talk to each other ๐Ÿ˜‚
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[tantek]
(was easier to implement that way)
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[tantek]
aaronpk I think the Step 2. instruction on that page was confusing me
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[tantek]
might do a hack for now to auto-submit to indienews any blog post of mine with "indieweb" in the name of the post
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[tantek]
no UI needed that way ๐Ÿ™‚
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[tantek]
considers other keywords like webmention
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shrysr
I am able to send out webmentions on my vps using https://webmention.app/ !!
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shrysr
gotta setup a receiving point now... so excited.
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jamietanna[m]
Shrysr awesome stuff! Well done
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shrysr
yeaa! And webmention.app is running locally on my machine. totally excellent.
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shrysr
thank jamietanna[m]
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shrysr
hmm i have testing by spplying individual post links to webmention.app ... i wonder how I could have it running as a daemon ... or something ?
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Loqi
[indienews] New post: "Reflecting On IndieWeb Summit: A Start" https://tantek.com/2019/217/b1/indieweb-summit-2019-start
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[tantek]
oh hey half-manual IndieNews worked!
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[tantek]
I don't think I have enough time to code the other half *and* write my next Indieweb related blog post to test it before the newsletter closes at 14:55
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[tantek]
we should announce IWCs AMS NYC BTN signups
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aaronpk
yes and add them to the list at https://2019.indieweb.org
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[tantek]
hmm thought I saw a tito link for NYC but not seeing it on https://indieweb.org/2019/NYC
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Loqi
[indienews] New post: "Homebrew Website Club Teesside 2018-08-07" http://www.kevinmarks.com/hwc2019-08-07.html
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[KevinMarks]
Hmm, why didn't that work with mention.tech
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shrysr
I am having trouble parsing links from my xml feed using webmention.app locally on my vps. It works fine when i supply the actual blog post link / file . I get a type error, and earlier i was getting other errors too.
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shrysr
is this related to the theme ?
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shrysr
i'm using hugo.
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shrysr
Presume this should go to #dev?
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[KevinMarks]
Yes, sounds like a dev question
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