#indieweb 2019-08-17

2019-08-17 UTC
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[jgmac1106] Why? Because Doodle is awful.
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[jgmac1106] Or every online quiz platform. Like Kahoot, Quizlet, Socratic etc...
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[jgmac1106] And there is a page... Not sure where...
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[jgmac1106] And we +1 stuff to vote on the wiki all the time
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[KevinMarks] Aarongustafson had a use case above
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[jgmac1106] I made a webmention Doodle bute huge PITA because I had to make an event for each option. And then do one post with all the events... Getting devy
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KartikPrabhu [jgmac1106]: I am not saying there are no use-cases. I am saying that if we have enough documented ones, we can then proceed to solving the problem
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[tantek] The examples listed demonstrate the complexity of trying to solve voting / polls in any generic way
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KartikPrabhu right ^ that is why we should have specific use-cases so we can solve it in a directed way instead of making a "catch-all" generic thing
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[jgmac1106] And why adding +1 just works rather than trying to build something... But logging on
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[tantek] Because text is arbitrarily flexible
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KartikPrabhu text++
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Loqi text has 1 karma over the last year
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[tantek] What is a survey?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "survey" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "survey is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] Yes there’s conspicuous absence of any documentation, so to be worth paying attention to, someone who cares needs to step up and document the specific use-cases
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[tantek] What is a question
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Loqi question is a post type for soliciting answer replies, which are then typically up/down voted by others and then displayed underneath the question post ordered by highest positive vote count rather than time ordered https://indieweb.org/question
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[tantek] So there’s that. Maybe start there
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[tantek] What is Doodle
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Loqi Doodle is a lightweight scheduling webapp that lets you punch in your availability and figures it all out https://indieweb.org/Doodle
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[tantek] And there
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[jgmac1106] Lightweight is no longer true... Look at the pGage load of ads... May remove that word
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KartikPrabhu [jgmac1106]: since you have experience with Doodle it would be better you edit it
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[jgmac1106] I think i made that page... But will make a page to capture it rather than tool specific...
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[jgmac1106] Not sure the term... Its item response that could be a vote, a poll, quiz, scheduling, etc
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KartikPrabhu I think a "vote" would be a response to "poll"
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KartikPrabhu not sure about schedules
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[jgmac1106] Yeah different use cases probably better not to conflate
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[jgmac1106] Even if its a first come first vote... Thinking my office hourz
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[jgmac1106] What is poll?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "poll" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "poll is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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KartikPrabhu I suppose schedule can work as an "event" + "rsvp"?
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[jgmac1106] poll is a survey where people are asked to vote on choices or by completing a questionnaire. Previous work from the domains included a rel based property for vote.
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Loqi ok
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[jgmac1106] Tempted now to make a page for survey that says, "a survey is a poll that..."
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KartikPrabhu lol
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KartikPrabhu maybe poll is a post is better
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[jgmac1106] Yeah it could Kartik.. How I did the manual until it hurts version... Ooh yeah poll as a post like that... May work on page after kids in bed
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
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OsakaFoo morning jeremycherfas
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[Lewis_Cowles] Morning IndieWeb
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[Lewis_Cowles] btw what is the IRC channel?
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[Lewis_Cowles] I struggle to not use all of slack, so I might come in via freenode
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OsakaFoo [Lewis_Cowles]: #indieweb freenode
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jeremycherfas Morning OsakaFoo
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OsakaFoo I saw a really nice h-feed, now considering if I should create a h-feed for my site or setup mastadon
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jeremycherfas I vote for h-feed.
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OsakaFoo I think this room might have some biases though ;)
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[Lewis_Cowles] @osakafoo++
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Loqi @osakafoo has 1 karma over the last year
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OsakaFoo I've a simple link bookmarking service I wrote a few years ago, which I can import into my blog via h-feed.
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OsakaFoo gets a coffee
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jgmac1106 if you set up mastodon aren't you aslo setting up an h-feed?’
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OsakaFoo tbh, I'm very new - so I've no idea
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[KevinMarks] Mastodon has h-feed, yes.
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jgmac1106 so you win either way
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[KevinMarks] Making your own h-feed should be fairly easy compared to setting up mastodon which has a lot of dependencies
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jgmac1106 it is really cool adding an h-feed to your site and all the sudden it just works in social readers by adding a few properties to your HTML
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jgmac1106 any more specific and we should probably move to #dev
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OsakaFoo heh, I looked at all the things needed to run mastodon, made me want to create some simple markup :)
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jgmac1106 this was the latest “hot” bookmarking and colllection tool among educators https://wakelet.com/ especially now that there is a chrome extension
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loui1986 Hey, I found the new IRC UI
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shrysr why arent the tags I specify in quill not translated as hashtags, when they appear on my site? ANd the tags I specify in tags are translated to my website, but not as hashtags for twitter
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shrysr should this be on dev ?
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jacky shrysr: we can move it to dev but it sounds still kinda product-y
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jacky however, quill only take the info you have and sends it to your site. It's up to your site to represent it in a way that if parsed by something like bridgy would it show hashtags or the like
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