#indieweb 2019-08-22

2019-08-22 UTC
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[tantek]
Now I'm wondering if my event posts should have a + Add to Calendar button
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aaronpk
that's a pretty common pattern for event posts
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[tantek]
and even the POSSE tweets could have an + Add to Calendar: link that gave you an ICS file (which your mobile should redirect to your Calendar app)
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[tantek]
uh "pretty common pattern for event posts" really?
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[tantek]
checks /event examples
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aaronpk
literally every event website ever?
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aaronpk
except meetup.com lol
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aaronpk
sometimes it's an "Add to calendar" button that is an .ics file, sometimes also paired with "add to google calendar" specifically
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[tantek]
hmm not seeing a lot in actual documented examples?
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aaronpk
yeah not necessarily on people's own websites
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[tantek]
ooh Jeena has a grey italic "download ics" link https://jeena.net/events/2
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aaronpk
but like event websites in general
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gRegorLove
Meetup has them
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[tantek]
and [gRegorLove] has a nice looking Add to calendar link: https://gregorlove.com/2015/09/mew/
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[tantek]
yeah I'm going to copy gRegorLove
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gRegorLove
schmarty has them
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[tantek]
"Add to Calendar: iCal | Google Calendar"
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[KevinMarks]
Can you make it better than eventbrite which makes me pick my calendar tool every single time instead of cookieing me?
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[tantek]
nah I'm just going to copy [schmarty] and frontload the cogload of you picking iCal vs gCal
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[fluffy]
just provide an ics file and let the gcal users import it their own damn selves 😛
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[fluffy]
(not really)
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[tantek]
Dietrich did ask about Google Calendar in particular
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[fluffy]
Also the EventBrite approach is better than the Meetup approach, where you RSVP and then the app adds it to your calendar, then they try to download you an ICS/gCal/whatever thing, and also send it to you in email, so Siri automatically adds it to your calendar again, and each version is broken in a different way.
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[tantek]
https://www.pbs.org/passport/videos/ came up as a good source of content
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[tantek]
next: Rebecca Gorman
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[tantek]
found IndieWeb site a couple of months ago
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[tantek]
heard about HWC from Joel Franusic
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[tantek]
background in business and philosophy
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swedneck [GMT+1] I think this bridge broke
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[tantek]
waves to Shokunin
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[tantek]
Last thing for HWC SF, since we will not be hosting on 9/4 (host will be at HWC PDX popup before XOXO), nor on 9/18 (host will be at W3C TPAC), we are going to have an off-week HWC SF *next week* 2019-08-28 and (got two confirmed RSVPs) and possibly 1-2 off-week HWC SF in September depending on how that goes
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jeremycherfas
Good morning IndieWeb
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[jgmac1106]
good morning
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Loqi
rise and shine!
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[Jeannie]
[fluffy] I own indieweb.social. If you would like it I would be happy to transfer it to you so that you can use it. I was the only one who used it when I tried to make my instance. I just don't have the resources (financial or timewise) to devote to maintaining it as an instance so I let it go. No one seemed interested in moving off of mastodon.social to use it anyway.
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jgmac1106
jeannie I think it is more people wanting soultions that rely more on our websites rather than having to rely on the goodwill like folks such as yourself
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jgmac1106
every instance I try had rules..social.coop felt I was too much a capitalist since I have a private company, scholar.social had all kinds of rules Ineed a different instance just to ask about them
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[tonz]
I run my own instance (at masto.host), to which I posse (no backfeed). I may start using my site as AP point of origin, but only if I can determine audiences for posts (my Mastodon account is set to allowed followers only e.g.)
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jujudario
Hello IndieWeb! Adding twitter feed through granary here, but would like to know if it's possible to not include retweets in the feed?
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[jgmac1106]
jujudario granary is supported by snarfed and they are on the West Coast US, but interesting idea
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[schmarty]
re: add-to-calendar discussions yesterday, i was recently horrified that some popular ticket site (eventbrite, i think) implemented their Add to Google Calendar functionality via a server-side API
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[schmarty]
and so took me through an oauth flow that would *let eventbrite have access to my calendar*
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[schmarty]
so, no thanks, i will download that .ics file and import it
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[timothy_chamber
That is very generous. Let me think but may well take you up on that.
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[bdesham]
have you all stumbled across one of those sites that just scrapes stack overflow pages and rehosts them?
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[bdesham]
usually with terrible formatting
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[bdesham]
one of those scraped one of my SO answers, which included a link to one of my blog posts
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[bdesham]
and the page sent me a webmention 😄
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[bdesham]
how funny, to _be notified_ that someone is using my content in a legal-but-sketchy way
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[timothy_chamber
Kevin; that was my thinking too, initially thinking it be a place to cover innovations in both the Indieweb, as well as the Fedeiverse overall, inviting both groups to cross-pollinate ideas and integrate.
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[timothy_chamber
Agreed, that is why i found openweb.coud, etc. Not as good but fishing for that same thing....
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[timothy_chamber
openweb.online is available.
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aaronpk
[bdesham]: lol! I've been getting those pingbacks from sites that copy our work blog posts
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aaronpk
it's like thanks for letting me know you ripped off our content
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[timothy_chamber
But expensive, "premium" name for 260 per year.
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[tantek]
ouch yeah I'd say go for the generous offer from Jeannie
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Loqi
it'll be okay
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[tantek]
snarfed whoa
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petermolnar
[snarfed]: I wonder if you'll ever end up hooking an android up and scrape via the apps via adb somehow
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[tantek]
imagines Bridgy mobile farm
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jeremycherfas
!tell [snarfed] Ahah. I thought it was because I used an emoji for, I think, the first time.
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[fluffy]
For a while I was running a periodic Pushl to notify people if their sites were linked to by kiwifarms. I don’t know if anyone ever got a useful alert from it though. KF tends to hide everything through archiveteam links both for preservation and for anonymization.
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[KevinMarks]
Well, indieweb is inclusive of a lot of fediverse sites.
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GWG
[schmarty]: Why am I getting old webmentions from you?
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[schmarty]
GWG my templates changed and my WM sender was triggered by the updated pages 😬
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[schmarty]
Think of them as /salmention opportunities!
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GWG
[schmarty]: Wish I'd known, I might have tried new homepage mention ideas in advance
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GWG
I am still on low level webmention stuff
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GWG
I can tell you what I mean in dev before Loqi calls me out
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aaronpk
[schmarty] updated his site, RIP my mentions
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[schmarty]
goes to make an apology page for every webmention going out now.
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jgmac1106
not a fan of homesteading (read genocide) and sharecropping (no actual sharecropping is much worse than data brokers) metaphors but fun piece 8 years later
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