#Ruxton"Data Transfer Project (DTP) is a collaboration of organizations committed to building a common framework with open-source code that can connect any two online service providers, enabling a seamless, direct, user initiated portability of data between the two platforms."
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#jgmac1106okay I was looking for other events during NYC and I find David Byrne (Talking Heads…huge fan) and he publishes “I am not an algorithim page” of his current playlist. I like it
#jgmac1106I can almost excuse the Jonas Brothers being on the playlist…almost
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#[manton][j12t] I was just reading over the Small Tech blog post again... I'm really interested in where this goes and what overlap there is with the IndieWeb. DAT has come up a few times here and at IndieWebCamp.
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#jgmac1106jacky and I went to the DAT meetup in Portland with Darius, he is a great source of info as well Manton…talked about challenges of what do with just javascript and the hash system of urls
#[manton]Cool. DAT has been on my radar too, but I haven't figured out how best to incorporate it into Micro.blog without getting really sidetracked. So I'm especially curious what impact DAT support in this new Site.js tool will have.
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#jgmac1106mapkyca doing some fun experimenting with Known, data storage and IPFS
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#jujudarioIs it possible to not include retweets/replies when adding twitter feeds via granary?
#[snarfed]jujudario: also, just curious, are you adding individual twitter users via granary? we strongly recommend adding your whole feed instead, since individual users doesn't scale well. try https://twitter-atom.appspot.com/ instead? (same underlying code)
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#jgmac1106snarfed++ oooh cool i never knew that existed, does it work with hastag searches as well?
#jgmac1106okay I will just make lists of the people most active in hashtags…always wondered how people did this
#[snarfed]jgmac1106 feel free to continue using granary for searches. the problem is really just when people add every one (or many) of their followed users as individual feeds
#jgmac1106yeah I want my feed reder just to have the best of for a few hashtags…Tweetdeck still works for me
#jgmac1106I probably haven’t looked at my home feed in five or six years, its pretty useless
#jujudarioYes, I only knew how to add individualy, but added my whole feed now
#aaronpki don't think anything would be "too much" for granary, it's just talking to twitter at the end of the day. it's possible for some hashtag searches twitter will give you limited results which they document in their api
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#jgmac1106I think we (by that I mean me) need some pop up sessions or IWC sessions on using granary, like I would love to learn how people use it on their readers and their sites, for example automating the feed generation rather than me cutting and pasting after each post
#jujudarioI get "429 Too Many Requests The client has sent too many requests in a given amount of time Instagram temporarily disabled, sorry! " when trying to use granary + instagram. Anybody made a succesful feed with instagram? It' d be nice with a tutorial on it, as doubleloop made with twitter + granary
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#[schmarty]hi jujudario! instagram has recently started returning a lot more rate limiting errors to services like granary. i believe snarfed has disabled instagram through granary for now.
#[schmarty](i may be mixing that up with bridgy, which definitely has instagram disabled for the same reasons)
#[snarfed]actually jgmac1106 jujudario etc i want to keep discouraging granary for feed readers and encourage the *-atom services instead. they have better (ish) UXes. granary is primarily a developer tool.
#[snarfed]and yes, IG is entirely disabled in granary right now
#jgmac1106will do, all I use it for is just to make an rss feed from my mf2 feeds…and I do it manually everytime I add a post
#[snarfed]there's FUD that granary's feeds have better quality and/or more content than the *-atoms', but i haven't really ever heard any concrete examples, and afaik no one's ever filed an issue, so i'd like to squash that FUD
#Loqi[snarfed]: would you mind moving this conversation to #indieweb-dev? thanks!
#[snarfed]jgmac1106 ah sure, for mf2 => rss, go for it! i mostly mean for silos
#jgmac1106the search feature though so I could get an atom of a hashtag would be cool
#aaronpk[snarfed]: granary looks prettier than the *-atom ones, and also it doesn't have "atom" in the name, so that's why I always think of using it first, because it looks more like an actual product
#aaronpkwhereas the *-atom ones look like developer tools
#aaronpkhmm but also instagram-atom only outputs an atom feed right? the mf2 feed that granary makes is way better
#[snarfed]another reason to point people to twitter-atom specifically is that granary twitter all uses the same api app, which twitter shut off before (https://snarfed.org/2013-07-09_twitter-atom-is-back ) and i expect would do again with enough volume
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#aaronpkok concrete example for twitter, the granary one includes "in-reply-to" so my reader can show the reply context, but there's no way to do that in atom
#[KevinMarks]Well, there are some ways but they're a bit annoying.
#aaronpk[KevinMarks] always with the "well actually" 😂
#[KevinMarks]Add the as1 namespace, or put mf2 into the content
#[snarfed]the *-atom services all have functionality that granary doesn't: twitter requires users' own api keys, instagram requires cookie (ugh awful), facebook scrapes
#[snarfed]so i can consider whether to improve their naming, branding, marketing, or fold all that into granary
#bob1yup, it sure is! the embarrassing thing is that i can’t seem to find the blog which inspired me to finally get it done — the fellow deserves credit
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#jgmac1106bob1 if you search the chat logs for https and indieauth you may find it, aaronpk, jacky, swentel, sebsel, fluffy are usual suspects for blogging about such things but so many more I am sure have been posted…congrats on such a cool milestone
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