#indieweb 2019-09-02
2019-09-02 UTC
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vika_nezrimaya ouch. found a bit of a rough edge here in the integration of my endpoints. pushing another fix
# vika_nezrimaya I'm having weird nostalgy. As if I had this conversation a year ago or so.
# vika_nezrimaya With the same 502 crash...
# bekomotion[m] Not with me =) Meanwhile I'm stealing your TW disclaimer about backfeeds. I knew I was missing something.
# vika_nezrimaya ?
# bekomotion[m] 'This account syndicates posts from my site and backfeeds likes and replies.'
# vika_nezrimaya Oh, wow
# vika_nezrimaya twitter
# vika_nezrimaya I almost forgot I put it there.
# vika_nezrimaya Really, I'm not into using Twitter, it's slow and clunky (but still faster than my website was (but not as cozy))
# vika_nezrimaya I'm only there because I had an account
# vika_nezrimaya And I though that I could POSSE
# vika_nezrimaya lol my micropub endpoint returned a 500
# vika_nezrimaya TypeError: 'ImmutableMultiDict' objects are immutable
# vika_nezrimaya sounds logical
# vika_nezrimaya I so hate form-encoded posts I've never tested it beyond a simple test case
# vika_nezrimaya most of my test cases are for JSON
# vika_nezrimaya https://fireburn.ru/posts/1567372279
# vika_nezrimaya ummmmm
# vika_nezrimaya why doesn't Loqi parse the post?
# vika_nezrimaya I think I do have correct microformats2 markup there, python.microformats.io works with it
# vika_nezrimaya Oh, btw there are webmentions on the site
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# vika_nezrimaya s/are/are no/
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# [timothy_chamber Welcome! Care to co-admin?
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# [Michael_Beckwit I'd prefer not having that much responsibility/power, if I'm being honest
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# vika_nezrimaya Indigenous became a lot better in the time I was absent :3
# vika_nezrimaya indigenous++
# vika_nezrimaya aaronpk: does teacup.p3k.io use JSON or form-encoded? >.<
# vika_nezrimaya ughhhhhhhhhhhhhh my endpoint doesn't support it :sob:
# vika_nezrimaya my endpoint struggles with form-encoding, I really like JSON
# vika_nezrimaya :c
# vika_nezrimaya but Teacup just looks so nice
# vika_nezrimaya I might have to implement something of my own in the future though
# vika_nezrimaya aaronpk: then do a change! Because my PHP skills are non-existent. I could write a new app with similar functionality faster than I could fork Teacup, read the code and rewrite it to use JSON
# vika_nezrimaya even if I discount the time needed to git clone the repo :3
# vika_nezrimaya git revert is your friend
# vika_nezrimaya and for my Micropub endpoint it's a basic set of tests designed to prevent me from breaking critical site functionality - i.e. posting and viewing posts
# vika_nezrimaya Wow
# vika_nezrimaya it may be older than my programming skills lol
# vika_nezrimaya and I just found the tests I do on my micropub: ?q=source with empty post DB (I implement post list extension, it shouldn't error out), inserting form-encoded note, inserting JSON post, inserting JSON post with a timestamp in the past, and then inserting a post and subsequently finding it within ?q=source post list output
# vika_nezrimaya Then why documentation isn't updated?!!
# vika_nezrimaya Wow, GitHub is showing the merge in real time
# vika_nezrimaya Do you have CI set up? when should I expect the update? :3
# vika_nezrimaya Soon may be not soon enough for me
# vika_nezrimaya I want to cook some food for myself
# vika_nezrimaya oatmeal it's called in English I've heard
# vika_nezrimaya we Russians call it ovsyanka (овсянка)
# vika_nezrimaya It's tasty and nutritional, and if you add a bit of cinnamon...
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# vika_nezrimaya Ok then! I should implement support for h-food on my site frontend, and I could try and test it
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# vika_nezrimaya aaronpk: my first ate post https://fireburn.ru/posts/1567391175
# vika_nezrimaya I didn't eat it yet, but it's cooking
# [timothy_chamber OK this is now together enough (rough beta) that I can invite folks here. The idea for this is a Mastodon instance dedicated to all things #openweb, and #indieweb who donated the domain name, is also helping me set up and moderate this…
# [timothy_chamber Here is the link to the basic description and sign up:
# [timothy_chamber https://indieweb.social/about/more
# [timothy_chamber Here is the sign up for those who do not currently automatically crosspost to Mastodon from your blog… https://indieweb.social/invite/NzA7HPR5
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# vika_nezrimaya aaronpk: could you give me a link to one of your ate/drink posts so I could look at your markup and presentation?
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Loqi [Aaron Parecki] Açaí Bowl https://aaronparecki.com/2019/08/28/25/photo.jpg
# vika_nezrimaya oh wow that looks tasty :drool:
# vika_nezrimaya is this... a cake?
# vika_nezrimaya looks like a cake in a bowl
# vika_nezrimaya aaronpk: you're using pk-ate instead of just ate and I though h-food is standartized now
# vika_nezrimaya s/though/thought/
# vika_nezrimaya everything else seems logical
# vika_nezrimaya and tasty
# [timothy_chamber [Jeannie] [aaronpk], [manton], [chrisaldrich] [fluffy] [tantek] [kevinmarks] [tonz], [Michael_Beckwith] [jgmac1106], and others on Mastodon or who syndicate to them, happy to add you in the “who to follow” section of the page, but didn’t want to do so without permission…
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aaronpk Feel free to add me: @aaronpk@aaronparecki.com or https://aaronparecki.com/aaronpk
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# [Michael_Beckwit i feel i should get at bit more established in syndication before i get that honor 😉
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# bekomotion[m] <[tonz] "[timothy_chambers] sure, np. I p"> wew.. and it's Locked. Nice idea.
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# bekomotion[m] I miss the possibility to add license markup to my articles. Is there anything in the making for mf2?
# bekomotion[m] Hm… that'd be for the full site but not for a single article. Wordpress e.g. shows various last posts and not all should be the same license. Can this be added to h-entry types as well?
# Loqi license is terms under which you are allowed to (re)use a piece of work; in the context of the IndieWeb, for source code such as in open source projects, or content, like the IndieWeb wiki itself which has a specific Copyright https://indieweb.org/license
# bekomotion[m] I wonder how to add a licence - as in copyright for specific content - for http://microformats.org/wiki/hAtom#Entry where only rel=bookmark and rel=tag are mentioned. As far as I can see http://microformats.org/wiki/rel-license is always for the whole page. Several licences _may_ apply tho so best practice for a hFeed would probably be to add any licence found for each hEntry but I don't like this approach either. No
# bekomotion[m] clear intend imho.
# bekomotion[m] I could and probably will but that's not in the spec, no?
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# bekomotion[m] Where do you see that? I only read "By adding rel="license" to a hyperlink, a page indicates that the destination of that hyperlink is a license __for the current page__." - this may not apply on a feed that is basically an aggregation of many pages (shortened or not) and I'm confused and just trying to understand this. Will probably just throw some licences at a parser and see what sticks (and where).
# bekomotion[m] I don't. I just want that information to be there to clarify in doubt.
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[KevinMarks] Put it in the standalone page for the entry.
# [KevinMarks] We should maybe look at a u-license property too, as that can then be scoped in the usual mf2 way
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# bekomotion[m] 👍️
# [KevinMarks] Do you have a feed where the different entries have different licenses?
# [KevinMarks] I can see that for, say, flickr or Internet archive feeds
# [KevinMarks] Or composite feeds
# bekomotion[m] Not yet but I wish to.
# [KevinMarks] Atom:rights explicitly excludes machine readable licenses.
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# bekomotion[m] I've e.g. galleries and I do not want pictures of that to be reshared without my explicit permission. Especially in print.
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# bekomotion[m] Works for me. It doesn't have to be machine readable. I just want it to be there. This looks like the thing I want.
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[jgmac1106] sure jgmac1106.mastadon.social
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[grantcodes] Just switched all my granary subscriptions over to instagram-atom and twitter-atom.
# [grantcodes] snarfed++
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# [jgmac1106] grantcodes++
# [jgmac1106] morning all
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jeremycherfas !tell sknebel Are we using Zoom?
# jeremycherfas Great.
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# jeremycherfas Please share the link when you are ready sknebel
# sknebel same link as always and as on the event page :D https://zoom.us/j/4955358768
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# [grantcodes] Just added click source (aka click to see a list of posts from a single user) and unread only channel support to together 👍
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# [pawel_madej] Hello,
# [pawel_madej] I'm building template for my website. I have json-ld for structured data. Do i need to add itemprop values in source also?
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# Loqi [indienews] New post: "Adding Calendar details on events pages" https://www.jvt.me/posts/2019/09/02/calendar-single-event/
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