#indieweb 2019-11-13

2019-11-13 UTC
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[jgmac1106] Yeah but I feel like a major part of Google Plus goals was@ beyond the social network was a unified ID... Why YouTubers flipped... And the social project at Google failed
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[snarfed] there was some of that in the pitch for unifying social _features_, but google account has been the unified id forever, including for youtube
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[snarfed] G+ came about out of fear of FB, and as tantek reminds us, fear and negative framing aren't a good place to start anything
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[KevinMarks] It was Vic saying "I'll build my own Facebook, with blackjack and hookers"
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[snarfed] ahaha ^ less circumspect and more vivid
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[snarfed] lahaha
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[snarfed] ...and not wrong
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[KevinMarks] "but they must have plausible names and wear shirts"
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[bradleyallen] I appreciate both of your insider perspectives
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
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[jgmac1106] morning
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Loqi *yawn* ... /stretch/
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GWG Morning
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[tantek] Happy HWC day!
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[tantek] yes I'm pretty convinced that ad-based systems/businesses, even if they start with good intentions, their growth demands ever more unethical decisions that compromise people for profit. indieweb business models should seek alternatives
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[tantek] I'm on the fence about affiliate links. they seem ok / harmless to users/viewers, possibly even useful, yet have some similar possible downsides if they become a focus or primary source of revenue.
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[Yulia] @gwg zoom will be available
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[Yulia] eek
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[Yulia] wrong channel
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[Rose] It's probably fine, he gets pinged when you say his name
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[tantek] silo quits << https://twitter.com/enhle1994/status/1194344705800200204
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Loqi ok, I added "https://twitter.com/enhle1994/status/1194344705800200204" to the "See Also" section of /silo-quits https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=66365&oldid=66062
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[chrisaldrich] what is identity?
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Loqi A personal domain is a domain name that you personally own, control, and use to represent yourself on the internet https://indieweb.org/identity
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[chrisaldrich] personal-domain << https://twitter.com/vboykis/status/1194067698176659457
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Loqi ok, I added "https://twitter.com/vboykis/status/1194067698176659457" to the "See Also" section of /personal-domain https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=66370&oldid=65283
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[chrisaldrich] Twitter << criticism regarding change in URLs for avatars circa 2019-11 https://twitter.com/vboykis/status/1194067698176659457
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@vboykis I can forgive Twitter for stuff like,,,destroying the free world and inciting cancel culture, but I cannot forgive it for taking away the direct link to my profile picture, because I used that link all the time for speaking bios. (twitter.com/_/status/1194067698176659457)
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Loqi ok, I added "criticism regarding change in URLs for avatars circa 2019-11 https://twitter.com/vboykis/status/1194067698176659457" to the "See Also" section of /Twitter https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=66371&oldid=66357
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[chrisaldrich] Photo of the day https://cogdogblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/get-out-of-facebook-free.jpg
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aaronpk 😂
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aaronpk i might have to print some of those
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jacky [tantek]: I was just thinking about affiliate links. I hoped that making it _explicitly_ clear that it's such a link, with even a dialog/warning informing of the such would help but it'd be have to be more
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[chrisaldrich] He's got a CC Attrib for it here https://cogdogblog.com/2019/11/begging-with-three-levels/
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Loqi [indienews] New post: https://v2.jacky.wtf/post/29ec18c7-8d37-400d-b791-051801128a7c
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gRegorLove Those get out of FB cards could also have "or $5/month at micro.blog" :)
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[jgmac1106] Make a donation and cogdog will make the micro.blog version for you gRegorLove
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[jgmac1106] ...even without one he'll do it if you ask nicely...
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[jgmac1106] interesting to see a WordPress "Happiness Associate" or whatever Paul's title is and link to the WordPress monetization route....I still think the companies that will own website businesses will be the PoS, Saleforce and Automattic, or card processing...the small biz websites..
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[jgmac1106] guess this is more chat though than main channel
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