#indieweb 2019-12-02

2019-12-02 UTC
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[snarfed] complete for hosting a personal site, not for reading
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mblaney sure but it includes a reader. I just hope following external people is on the list of features to add.
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[fluffy] I happened to have a conversation with Manton about this the other day. It’s currently sorta-supported and he’s absolutely going to improve the UX.
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[fluffy] and he pointed me to this blog entry talking about it further: https://www.manton.org/2019/05/16/following-other-blogs.html
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Loqi Following other blogs on Micro.blog
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mblaney interesting, thanks fluffy
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "My IndieWeb Challenge 2019 aspirations" https://beesbuzz.biz/blog/3640-My-IndieWeb-Challenge-2019-aspirations
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "My IndieWeb Challenge 2019 aspirations" http://beesbuzz.biz/blog/3640-My-IndieWeb-Challenge-2020-aspirations
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[fluffy] … why the hell did that happen
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[fluffy] the first one I understand but the second one shouldn’t have, because… oh shit no I know what happened argh
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[fluffy] my bugfix broke a different fix 😛
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Zegnat Good morning IndieWeb!
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jacky good morning! :)
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[Rose] Good morning!
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Loqi rise and shine!
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beko mrng
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Zegnat Anyone else having a go at an IndieWeb december challenge?
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jacky I am
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jacky my post for yesterday _should_ have syndicated by now
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Day 1: Lwa's in Pre-Pre-Alpha" https://v2.jacky.wtf//post/day-1-lwa-in-pre-alpha
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[Rose] Can someone share a link? I did fix some things on my site yesterday 😄
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jacky lol that timing
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jacky https://indieweb.org/2019-12-indieweb-challenge
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Zegnat I just got mine done yesterday 23:30, so am not on the wiki yet. Might add myself there today.
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Zegnat Not sure I will add my posts to the calendar. I think most of them will not be IndieWeb-related.
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[Rose] Does "I spent 45 minutes yesterday trying to fix my navbar on mobile and it still doesn't work" count? 😆
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[Rose] (The considerations imply it must be usable, so no 😛)
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[Rose] I may aim for IndieWebWednesdays throughout the month, I don't think I can do every day with all my other commitments
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jacky wednesday high key sound more feasible for bigger things
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jacky versus nitpicks :)
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Zegnat I am just trying to do something interesting (super subjective) every day. Started with SSG and GitHub, been thinking about job queues today.
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Zegnat Not sure it will be a shipped thing every day, or even IndieWeb related every day. We’ll see what happens :)
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Zegnat thinks it is important not to pressure yourself with for-fun things
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[Rose] Definitely
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
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jeremycherfas Speaking of no pressure ... Tantek more or less persuaded me to convert my non-shipped, not-for-public-consumption effort yesterday into a >7<101-day personal challenge. Combining nitpicks and bigger fish, that might be possible, though probably not for 101 days.
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[tantek] Zegnat, like jeremycherfas, you may be interested in a 100 days project for your own stuff rather than the December challenge
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[tantek] What is 100 days
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Loqi A 100 days project in the IndieWeb community is a challenge to do or make something and post about it on your own site every day for 100 days https://indieweb.org/100_days
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[tantek] Jacky++ nice work kicking us off with a release for 12/1!
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Loqi Jacky has 20 karma in this channel over the last year (91 in all channels)
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[tantek] Wondering now if we should make that distribution at the top of the IndieWeb December challenge page and guide folks appropriately
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[tantek] Eg fixed a plugin on your site -> 100 days
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[tantek] fixed a plug-in and released it so others can use it in their site -> IndieWeb December challenge
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[tantek] A little meta yet sounds like it needs clarification here first.
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Zegnat I don’t think I will aim for doing anything 100 days straight. Feels like a non-target for me, as I know already I will not have something for each day. The shorter #31Days challenge fits me much better.
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Zegnat So I am aiming for the 31 Days of Things instead, whether it’ll be IndieWeb stuff or not. Some of it may end up being IndieWeb stuff anyway (knowing me)
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[tantek] Zegnat, different number of days already addressed on the 100 days page ;)
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[tantek] Worth reading the whole thing :)
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[Rose] 31 days of stuff sounds great to me. Any/all IndieWeb things will make it onto the 31 days of IndieWeb page though if that's ok 🙂
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Zegnat Yep, I am basically doing https://indieweb.org/100_days#30_Days
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[tantek] There is no 31 days of IndieWeb page, that’s the point about the confusion
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Zegnat I just do not have a theme for it, and it happens to run in December which makes it seem to have an ovelap with the indieweb challenge, haha
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[Rose] Sorry, the challenge.
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jeremycherfas Same; I was prompted to start by the IndieWeb Challenge.
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[tantek] The point is to provide and alternative to “advent” calendars
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Zegnat I actually call it a 31 Days of … in my post, mentioning it is only inspired by the IndieWeb Challenge :) https://kronkels.licit.li/first-advent/
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[tantek] Yeah this prompting makes me think the top of the IndieWeb challenge page needs to redirect most people to a 100 days or 30/31 days project instead
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[tantek] And if as part of that nnn days project you happen to make something others can use, then submit it to the December challenge. If not that’s ok too!
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Zegnat [tantek]: makes sense!
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[tantek] Zegnat server not found
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Zegnat Huh? Loads for me. Anyone else having issues with that link?
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[Rose] Loads for me
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Zegnat It is hosted by GitHub, they shouldn’t be down at the moment. (Whole point of day 1: Static site)
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[tantek] This article is probably worth an IndieWeb response: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/11/30/opinion/social-media-future.html
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[tantek] Or at least perspective.
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[tantek] And more than the astute Pinboard criticism which is 🔥🔥 https://twitter.com/pinboard/status/1201481514220834817
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@Pinboard The New York Times today teases that "A Better Internet Is Waiting For Us" before hitting the reader with a 13MB page that takes 8.5 minutes to load on Hong Kong hotel wifi. 3 MB of this carnival of bloat is due to a single hero image of a painting that would compress beautifully https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EKyETLbVAAAAri2.png (twitter.com/_/status/1201481514220834817)
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[tantek] Looks like others are itching to do a “31 days” project: https://twitter.com/brad_frost/status/1201230118825398274 (Zegnat, Jeremycherfas)
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@brad_frost ✎ I've been feeling pretty uninspired (and probably a bit burnt out) lately. To address this, I'm going to make something every day in December and post it to my site: https://bradfrost.com/blog/post/making-things-in-december/ (twitter.com/_/status/1201230118825398274)
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[tantek] Makes me think it’s at least worth documenting as an emergent phenomenon if not something more formally labeled
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jacky yes!
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[manton] Catching up on a few things... [snarfed], for your comment about sending Webmentions, you mean creating a regular blog post on Micro.blog (not an explicit reply to something) and have Micro.blog try to send a Webmention to anything linked in the post?
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[manton] Someone asked about this recently and I pointed them to https://webmention.app, but it could be a built-in feature.
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[tantek] Yes manton that would be great!
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[manton] Got it, thanks!
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[tantek] Another article that is part on topic here and partly potentially meta: https://www.jacobinmag.com/2019/11/tech-companies-antitrust-monopolies-socialist
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jacky adds to list of things to read over breakfast in a few
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[jgmac1106] morning all
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[jgmac1106] I know there was talk of some people getting some specs on MD, like webmentions, IndieAuth, etc if people who built and use those specs are looking for challenges
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[jgmac1106] Hoping GWG and Tantek planning IWC SF will knock out some wins this week
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[jgmac1106] MDN*
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GWG [jgmac1106]: I hope so too
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[tantek] Ooh yeah those would be great examples
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takev[m] jacky: Lwa is working for me now. It looks great!
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[Ramiro_Ruiz] Good morning, quick question. For the Like post type, should I still receive and show webmentions? I don’t see somebody liking my like or commenting on it. 🤔
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[schmarty] [Ramiro_Ruiz] that is entirely up to you, as it's your website!
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jacky takev[m]: ayee, that's good to hear!
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jacky it's not explicitly responsive at the moment
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jacky and I think I might have broken the composer lol
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[Ramiro_Ruiz] thanks [schmarty] I will leave them as just displaying the like and sharing the liked url. Makes more sense to me.
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chrisaldrich What is education?
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Loqi IndieWeb for Education is the application of indieweb principles to one's personal site with a particular emphasis on use cases for education, pedagogy, research, academic samizdat, and collaboration https://indieweb.org/education
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chrisaldrich IndieWeb for Education << http://connectedcourses.net/ 2014 online course which allowed people to syndicate (POSSE) their participation to a central (planet-like) website
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Loqi ok, I added "http://connectedcourses.net/ 2014 online course which allowed people to syndicate (POSSE) their participation to a central (planet-like) website" to the "See Also" section of /Indieweb_for_Education https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=66818&oldid=64776
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