#indieweb 2020-01-08

2020-01-08 UTC
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sukil
nickserv status
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sukil
woops sorry
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[Marlin_Forbes]
enter password 😛
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beko
********
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petermolnar
it's good that the operating system password filter still works, beko: all I can see is stars!
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petermolnar
what is hunter2?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "hunter2" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "hunter2 is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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Imnotsoimpressed
naive irc users
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Imnotsoimpressed
hey look theres a new feature in your irc client that fliters passwords ? /s
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[Marlin_Forbes]
kudos to the people behind https://micropub.rocks - really well done
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beko
you don't like my password? 😟
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[Marlin_Forbes]
check your inbox
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aaronpk
thanks [Marlin_Forbes]! glad it was helpful!
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beko[m]
Nice! It's missing Yarn. Hm..
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aaronpk
What is Yarn?
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Loqi
yarn is a package and dependency management tool for node.js - https://yarnpkg.com/ https://indieweb.org/yarn
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[Marlin_Forbes]
yam is a potato like vegetable
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Loqi
[Jack Jamieson] Description Yarns Microsub Server helps you follow feeds from across the Web. Enter a website and Yarns will help you find and subscribe to its feed(s) in several different formats (Microformats, RSS, Atom, JSONFeed). Once you’ve added feeds, new ...
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beko
ah. pub. sub. ☕
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ketudb
RE: The IndieAuth naming confusion (https://indieweb.org/IndieAuth-brainstorming#naming_confusion); Vouch Proxy (https://github.com/vouch/vouch-proxy) claims to support IndieAuth - does anyone know (offhand, I can do some digging if not) if it's referring to IndieAuth the website specifically, or IndieAuth the protocol?
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ketudb
Generally I would assume the latter because IndieAuth.com uses the IndieAuth protocol to provide it's services, buuuut it could be hardcoded in some way that wouldn't make sense
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Loqi
[indienews] New post: "Let’s PESOS Passive Posts with Trakt and Last.FM" https://charlotteallen.info/2020/01/08/lets-pesos-passive-posts-with-trakt-and-last-fm/
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aaronpk
I believe it supports any website that uses the api that IndieAuth.com has, such as indielogin.com. So it does the protocol bits of IndieAuth but not the discovery
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ketudb
that is very useful to know
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ketudb
got it, thanks
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ketudb
tbh I think what I actually want is some kind of oAuth or OIDC provider to integrate with it for my use-case
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ketudb
sadly I think it would be oAuth instead of OID/OIDC, since most applications in the ecosystem with any native defferred auth support seem to use oAuth
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dragontamer5788
does anyone have an example of how an indie Webmention discussions work?
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dragontamer5788
Like, is it some kind of federated Twitter-like back and forth?
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gRegorLove
Welcome dragontamer5788. Yeah people make posts on their own website that's in-reply-to a post on someone else's site. Webmention notifies the site you're replying to of the URL for your reply.
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gRegorLove
Then it's up to them what to do with it. They could try to parse your post to display it as a comment (a lot of us use microformats2 for that), but that's not required as part of Webmention spec.
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[snarfed]
dragontamer5788: lots of screenshots and examples on https://indieweb.org/Webmention-developer#IndieWeb_Examples
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dragontamer5788
Thanks gRegorLove and [snarfed]
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[jgmac1106]
wow bringing in a great feature from Google+ https://venturebeat.com/2020/01/08/twitter-will-soon-let-you-choose-who-can-reply-to-your-tweets/ tl;dr discussion boards.and forums worked and you should be able to control who invite to your party
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dragontamer5788
I'm a n00b at all things web. I'm currently investigating Hugo (static site generator) as a methodology behind my website. I found the indie-web wiki and started thinking about various features which bloggers are accustomed to.
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dragontamer5788
Webmentions seem like an interesting methodology for comments. I'm kind of curious how it could work in a static-site setting. I know about webmentions.io.
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superkuh
dragontamer5788, I'm using nginx for my static site. I have it log POST data to a separate logfile. The trick is getting nginx to proxy to itself so it doesn't strip it.
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dragontamer5788
Lets say I make a static-website with a webmention link to webmentions.io. Obviously, the static site cannot update automatically when a webmention comes in.
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superkuh
From there you can use a script or do it manually.
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dragontamer5788
Thanks superkuh: that's a very helpful idea.
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superkuh
I banged my head against this one for about a month before aaronpk helped find a way.
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dragontamer5788
It probably wouldn't be too hard to create a list of webmentions as a list of files in Hugo to iterate though. The next Hugo-update could update the final html pages.
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dragontamer5788
PHP + Postgresql seems like it'd be more obvious and easier, lol. Choosing static has its downsides...
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superkuh
Stay on target.
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superkuh
It'll be easier in the long run.
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[snarfed]
dragontamer5788: lots of posts and examples on how to do webmentions on static sites in general and Hugo specifically. https://indieweb.org/static_site_generator#See_Also , https://indieweb.org/Hugo , etc
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dragontamer5788
Thanks [snarfed]. This link is somewhat interesting: https://ascraeus.org/embracing-the-indieweb/
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dragontamer5788
> The only real solution is to embed a script to the static pages, and poll for webmentions at pageload time.
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dragontamer5788
Another approach which sounds doable.
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dragontamer5788
I guess I'm surprised to see a lot of different ways to solve this problem.
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[snarfed]
plurality++
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Loqi
plurality has 1 karma in this channel over the last year (3 in all channels)
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