#indieweb 2020-01-24
2020-01-24 UTC
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drankorgel hi
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# sivy heyo
# sivy good evening
# sivy I’m working on webmention support in my blog app, and I’m a bit confused about the logic in test #23 on webmentions.rocks
# sivy heh. Got it.
# sivy all 23 tests pass, for fetch at least
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@TimLiljefors im gonna lose my fucking mind if i see another "x social media site owns all the art you upload its in their TOS!!!!" they need your permission to upload your content to their site and display it.. literally every social media has it in their TOS... i beg you... stop... (twitter.com/_/status/1125548071419564035)
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[jgmac1106] yeah just because sites aren't doing it doesn't mean they can't/won't, it is a bit misleading...all TOS have this bad boilerplate language so you don't need to worry about it...
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# [jgmac1106] and those ToS provide universal license for sale....ask every Tumblr, DeviantArt, user if ToS don't matter with acquisition
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# sivy good morning
# sivy and thank you @[tantek] :)
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
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# sivy hm, apparently to test actual webmentions, you have to have an actual server
# sivy blurgh
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# sivy sending
# sivy guess I could set up a seperate instance of my site
# sivy or perhaps just upload a static file?
# sivy oooh, that might work
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[KevinMarks] I think webmention.rocks has both kinds of test
# sivy yeah, I got it to work:
# sivy I din’t have any actual post-type markup so it didn’t pickup useful info, but it’s working
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# sivy btw I’m working on webmentions in Go, for https://github.com/sivy/goldfrog
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jamietanna[m] Sivy if you've not already seen it https://github.com/willnorris/webmention may be worth a look for a Go webmention library
# sivy wow, I completely forgot I had found that before.
# sivy :facepalm:
# sivy oh well, it’s been fun writing my own implementation
# sivy and I’ll have a server too
# sivy but I will probably steal some of Will’s techniques, which are more idiomatic Go than mine
# sivy seeing as I’m still a noob
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willnorris just got pinged on the name mention... don't have much context, but happy to advise on Go stuff :)
# willnorris hah. Guess I haven't been around in a while :)
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# [jgmac1106] willnorris meet [dmitshur] who has built amazing building blocks using GO, taught me my first Go "hello world" app
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# sivy hi willnorris !
# sivy willnorris: i looked at your Go webmention client a couple weeks ago, then forgot about it an implemented my own :)
# sivy funny how similar some of the API is
# sivy your’s definitely has some cleaner idioms
# willnorris Hey dmitshur :) Hey sivy... been a really long time!
# sivy yeah!
# willnorris Hey, I'm certainly happy to have some other folks helping build some of the indieweb building blocks in Go. I was kind of doing it alone for a little while there, but clearly haven't been too active myself or some time
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# sivy I’m going to be building the server side as well… *hopefully* as http.HandlerFuncs so that they can be plugged into your mux of choice
# sivy see http://monkinetic.blog/2020/01/23/
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# willnorris nice. The server/receiver side was one thing I never got to, so it's good to see you doing that.
# willnorris I had two different plans of where to store received webmentions... one was going to proxy them to a GitHub repo as pull requests, then my webmention moderation flow was simply using GitHub's UI. The other idea was to use Perkeep, but that project is not near as active as it once was
# willnorris I think the main blocker on the GitHub approach was trying to figure out how to store them. One file per webmention, one file per target URL, etc. I use hugo to build my site, so hugo would just read out of wherever they're stored, and render them
# [jgmac1106] Glad folks connected but mind moving to #indieweb-dev?
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# sivy willnorris: yeah, i haven’t decide on storage yet either. Goldfrog (my new Go-powered blog app) stores posts in the FS in jekyll-compatible markdown, but also reads them into a sqlite db for fast search/listings
# sivy I do not have a model for comments/webmentions yet
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[schmarty] sivy & willnorris: excited for new collaborations on IndieWeb projects in Go! Would y'all mind moving this particular discusison to #indieweb-dev as it's getting into development specifics?
# sivy okee
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# jamietanna[m] https://twitter.com/sazzy/status/1220707626692071425?s=19 anyone else want to reply?
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# superkuh Do people even have twitter accounts anymore?
# skalnik Do people even anymore?
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chrisaldrich Has anyone played the Dolly Parton meme /identity game? https://www.facebook.com/DollyParton/photos/a.10150216209199755/10157178777019755/?type=3&theater
# chrisaldrich I'm waiting for someone to have blacked out photos for three websites and their personal h-card avatar with the subtitle "My Own Website"...
# [schmarty] lol
# chrisaldrich What is identity?
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Loqi A personal domain is a domain name that you personally own, control, and use to represent yourself on the internet https://indieweb.org/identity
# Loqi ok, I added "https://www.facebook.com/DollyParton/photos/a.10150216209199755/10157178777019755/?type=3&theater" to the "See Also" section of /personal-domain https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=68035&oldid=68009
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