#indieweb 2020-02-06

2020-02-06 UTC
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jacky fragmentions a thing natively in the browser? https://chromestatus.com/feature/4733392803332096 at least for chrome
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jacky although https://open.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/11/emphasis-update-and-source/
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[tantek] with a crappier proposal yeah. KevinMarks can cite the GitHub issues with more background
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[tantek] whoa just noticed the year on that NYT article jacky
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[tantek] 2011!
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[tantek] Fragmention << 2011 prior related proposal and implementation for linking to text in paragraphs: https://open.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/11/emphasis-update-and-source/
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Loqi ok, I added "2011 prior related proposal and implementation for linking to text in paragraphs: https://open.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/11/emphasis-update-and-source/" to the "See Also" section of /fragmention https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=68168&oldid=68068
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[tantek] here at HWC SF with one other person, Katherine
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[tantek] has multiple websites, for different projects / areas, wants one site that has multiple areas or forwards to the different projects
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[tantek] welcome [Katherine]!
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[tantek] https://www.katherinefrazer.com/
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[KevinMarks] https://sessionize.com/web-rebels-2020/
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[KevinMarks] That NYT link is already there under related work
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[tantek] yay Kongaloosh in the house!
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[tantek] And Andre
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Loqi 😄
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[tantek] he has arko.net and a great story of getting it with namezero, losing it, then picking it up on the cheap after the dotcom crash from a speculator!
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[tantek] comparing domain name stories
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[andre] 👋
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[tantek] Meetable is what runs events.indieweb.org
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[tantek] https://github.com/aaronpk/Meetable
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Loqi [aaronpk] Meetable: a minimal events aggregator
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[tantek] https://aaronparecki.com/2020/01/14/13/meetable
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Loqi [Aaron Parecki] Meetable: An Open Source Events Aggregator
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jacky oh andre's there
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[tantek] yes!
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[tantek] and Kongaloosh is now demonstrating her amazing posting UI
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[andre] [yo] heyyy how's it going 😁
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chrisaldrich I think I may have asked before, but does anyone have a good icon to indicate the idea of syndication link?
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chrisaldrich I'm thinking maybe Font Awesome icons like https://fontawesome.com/icons/share-alt?style=solid, https://fontawesome.com/icons/external-link-alt?style=solid, or maybe the bullhorn https://fontawesome.com/icons/bullhorn?style=solid ?
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chrisaldrich Maybe copies? https://fontawesome.com/icons/copy?style=solid
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chrisaldrich Maybe a globe icon?
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[schmarty] [chrisaldrich] I use a logo/icon for the service the copy is on, where possible. Otherwise the globe 🌐 icon
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chrisaldrich thanks [schmarty] I've been doing roughly the same thing and will continue, but I'm looking for something to prefix that portion with so that I can roughly keep the parallelism in the post meta section. See this example which has calendar, folder, and tag icons for the related pieces: https://boffosocko.com/2020/02/05/fake-news-is-solvable-the-rockefeller-foundation/
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Loqi [Chris Aldrich] Many talk about the right to freedom of speech online, but rarely do discussions delve a layer deeper into the idea of the “right to reach”. I’ve lately taken to analogizing the artificial reach of bots and partisan disinformation and labeled t...
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chrisaldrich maybe the paper airplane icon would work?
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chrisaldrich or a satellite dish icon?
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chrisaldrich broadcast tower has that sort of connotation too doesn't it? https://fontawesome.com/icons/broadcast-tower?style=solid
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chrisaldrich If we can solve this problem, perhaps its also an emoji we could add to the /syndication page?
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chrisaldrich satellite dish usually indicates receipt, so maybe a satellite for the idea of sending
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[Marlin_Forbes] you could always put in a request for someone to add it here: https://fontawesome.com/community/leaderboard/new
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[Marlin_Forbes] while you ponder
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[Marlin_Forbes] https://fontawesome.com/icons/stream?style=solid
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[Aaron_Klemm] [chrisaldrich] how about a satellite/broadcast type of thing: https://fontawesome.com/icons/satellite-dish?style=light
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[Marlin_Forbes] https://fontawesome.com/icons/newspaper?style=regular
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[Aaron_Klemm] The broadcast tower is good. Satellites around the globe would be cool, but I couldnt' find one.
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chrisaldrich Thanks everyone, these are at least some useful ideas.
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chrisaldrich I'll note that the paper airplane looks a lot like the compass arrow indicator I'm using, so I likely won't use it.
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chrisaldrich Somehow the satellite and broadcast towers give a "this icon doesn't work square box" on chrome... probably going with the bullhorn for the moment.
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[Marlin_Forbes] don't ever have an Announcements category and that'll do fine. 😛
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chrisaldrich My website is my soapbox. They're all announcements! ;)
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aaronpk Whoa when did twitter start showing the nesting level of a conversation with that curvy grey line?
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chrisaldrich curvy grey line?! example thread please?
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chrisaldrich I'm not seeing any on my account at present....
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chrisaldrich There's been some sporadic mention of it in a few rooms, but jacky highlights the upshot for fragments in Chromium: https://twitter.com/jackyalcine/status/1225225931834318848
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@jackyalcine cc: @ChrisAldrich @jgmac1106 https://twitter.com/stefanjudis/status/1225133056736088065 (twitter.com/_/status/1225225931834318848)
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chrisaldrich jacky++
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Loqi jacky has 17 karma in this channel over the last year (79 in all channels)
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aaronpk Huh I can't find an example of it anymore
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chrisaldrich Maybe Twitter is doing as much cowperson coding as I am today? ;p
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Micropub for WordPress 2.1.0 Released" https://david.shanske.com/2020/02/06/micropub-for-wordpress-2-1-0-released/
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chrisaldrich GWG++ for continued updates to the WordPress Micropub plugin
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Loqi GWG has 24 karma in this channel over the last year (140 in all channels)
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GWG That media and timezone stuff was annoying me to be honest
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swentel GWG, offline reading works for the timeline too. Will test for a few days myself and then push a new release over the weekend
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GWG swentel++
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Loqi swentel has 8 karma in this channel over the last year (35 in all channels)
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GWG swentel: Are there options on that?
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swentel GWG, it's a setting to turn it on at the moment. And there's a 'Clear cache' action in the menu of the channels
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swentel other ideas welcome
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GWG swentel: How often does it poll? Can it poll only on wifi, etc?
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swentel GWG, it doesn't really poll at the moment. When you're connected, it will insert/update the response (even per page)
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swentel so, when connected, it always goes to the server
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GWG swentel: So, how do you tell it to disconnect?
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GWG Is there a Go Offline button?
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swentel GWG, I monitor that already. If you're not connected you currently see a 'not connected' screen in case there's no cache.
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swentel but would you like to get from cache even when connected?
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GWG swentel: On mobile yes
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swentel and then a 'refresh from server' option
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swentel ah right, like that
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GWG But let me play with phase 1 and I'll write up thoughts?
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GWG swentel: Metered bandwidth
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swentel yep, let's release first and then finetune
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swentel it's already a step forwards anyway :)
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GWG swentel: Just started discussing PRs for Yarns, so I am looking at getting to the point I could use it more
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GWG Wonder if I could do opml import
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swentel beko, was able to spin up a 5.1.1 virtual device, no problems with that account section so far, so a bit in the dark at the moment
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swentel added a screenshot on the issue with the permissions you should see
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swentel if you see the same, that I really have no idea :/
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beko[m] swentel: thanks for checking. will try to recreate the profile.
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swentel beko[m], if it works then, I might have an idea though
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swentel so fingers crossing in a way :)
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swentel on the other hand, it might be a red herring too of course, I just added a big try/catch block for rendering the accounts, I don't really catch the actual exception, so maybe it crashes on something different in older android versions
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swentel although it didn't in the virtual device hmmm
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swentel crap, software can be annoying :)
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beko[m] totally :D
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swentel beko[m], starting to wonder, do you have a media endpoint?
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beko[m] swentel: I do. In fact using this produced an output that worked good with bridgy so I adapted this kind of formatting for posting photos manually too :)
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swentel beko[m], mm I thought that might trigger a potential exception, but looked wrong in the code :)
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swentel trying to figure out if something else might cause the exception
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
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sknebel Hi jeremycherfas
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jeremycherfas Hello sknebel
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jeremycherfas Doing interesting things?
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sknebel Still pretty much occupied with boring adulting stuff
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