#indieweb 2020-02-17

2020-02-17 UTC
[KevinMarks], turona, gRegorLove, [fluffy], [Michael_Beckwit, jakelazaroff, KempfCreative, eli_oat, flynn and eli_oat1 joined the channel
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eli_oat
please forgive this test
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eli_oat1
I am duplicate
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[chrisaldrich]
Question about Microsub readers: Are there any that will currently show an individual feed that is a sub-feed of a channel?
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[chrisaldrich]
Or is the general solution to have very few feeds in each channel so as not to become overwhelmed?
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[chrisaldrich]
I love the fact that Monocle provides the feed name at the top of posts to provide the additional context of which feed source I'm reading as I scroll down posts.
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gRegorLove
You can click that feed name in Monocle to see just that feed's posts, is that what you mean?
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dance2die
Hello all
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dance2die
I've setup a "webmention.io" account & brid.gy (https://brid.gy/twitter/dance2die) to crawl twitter mentions.
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dance2die
But brid.gy doesn't ping my site and shows "No webmention targets found" for twits with link to my blog post.
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dance2die
When I manually mentioned via "https://webmention.io/<my site>/webmention", the mention was registered correctly
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dance2die
What steps could I take to verify that brid.gy would call the webmention.io link?
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dance2die
woops. let me read CoC first brb
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[chrisaldrich]
gRegorLove, that's exactly what I was talking about, though apparently I'd fat fingered it on my touchscreen and gone to the site instead of the feed.
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[chrisaldrich]
Though I don't think I've seen this same sort of functionality in Alltogether or Indigenous, or maybe I'm missing it?
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gRegorLove
Hi, dance2die. From this log it looks like Bridgy is looking at your homepage to find the original post with a syndication link matching the tweet URL. Since it doesn't find that, it doesn't know where to send the webmentions. Log: https://brid.gy/log?start_time=1581910631&key=agdicmlkLWd5chYLEgdUd2l0dGVyIglkYW5jZTJkaWUM
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gRegorLove
Bridgy is following https://indieweb.org/posse-post-discovery to try to find the original, canonical post
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[chrisaldrich]
dance2die if you have a feed for your posts set up you may be able to fix it with the <link rel="feed" href="..."> portion described here: https://brid.gy/about#link
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dance2die
Oh thank you @gRegorLove for the review & [chrisaldrich] for the documentation~
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[chrisaldrich]
I remember needing to set something like that ages ago because my homepage isn't a feed of my posts.
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dance2die
I was lost after struggling where to go next :)
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gRegorLove
I do the rel=feed thing on my homepage: https://gregorlove.com the "Notes" link has rel=feed since that's where my tweet-type posts reside
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[chrisaldrich]
You may find that some of the links on https://brid.gy/twitter/dance2die will direct you to either logs or useful details within the documentation for fixing some of the pieces you're having issues with.
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gRegorLove
Understandable, I got confused trying to debug it. Feel free to ask any questions, lot of helpful people around most hours
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dance2die
Ah. I didn't click on the timestamp link, which shows the log.
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dance2die
I was wondering how you (@gRegorLove) got the log link.
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gRegorLove
dance2die, The second "an hour ago" link in the middle column.
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gRegorLove
Then the "created by this poll" link
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dance2die
The log's quite nice as I can track down where the issue occured
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dance2die
Hopefully I can spend all day tomorrow (US holiday).
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dance2die
Let me track down the issue and come back when I have questions. Thank you folks
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gRegorLove
snarfed++ for logs and bridgy in general
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Loqi
snarfed has 32 karma in this channel over the last year (88 in all channels)
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Loqi
[indienews] New post: "Announcing Meetup.com Support for Bridgy Publish" https://www.jvt.me/posts/2020/02/17/meetup-bridgy-support/
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[tantek]
jamietanna++
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Loqi
jamietanna has 8 karma in this channel over the last year (27 in all channels)
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[tantek]
47 days completed. If all goes well I should be done with 50 before IWC Austin! halfway to 100
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jamietanna[m]
Thanks 😁
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[grantcodes]
!tell chrisaldrich you can click the avatar in together to get an individual feed. Pretty sure indigenous Android does the same
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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swentel
it's a setting in indigenous
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swentel
so not enabled by default
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swentel
although I guess it could be, aperture supports too iirc
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[jeremycherfas]
I’m really not that interested, just as I am not too interested in changing the artwork displayed in a player along with chapter markers and so on. I make audio the way I like to listen to it, with the phone in my pocket, not being looked at. And I truly dislike auto-play of any kind. Still, it’s nice to be aware of what others are up to.
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sknebel
[jeremycherfas]: what was that in response to? do we loose messages across the slack bridge? - https://chat.indieweb.org/2020-02-17#bottom
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jeremycherfas
A post from Chris Aldrich. Let me see if I can find it.
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jeremycherfas
No, wait. That's not going to do it.
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Loqi
[[chrisaldrich]] I'm curious what storytellers like [jeremycherfas] might do with such bits of UI integrated into their podcasts? or maybe [jgmac1106] might create within his poetry space using things like this?
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jeremycherfas
I must say, I am beginning to prefer the Slack interface, for a variety of reasons. Not least that my bouncer often loses posts overnight.
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jeremycherfas
And the unfurl on Slack is better than in my client (Textual)
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[KevinMarks]
the web interface is good too
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[KevinMarks]
I use slack because I'm already in several slacks for work related reasons
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jeremycherfas
I do have a few other Slacks but they are much less frequent.
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[Jay_Hoffmann]
I’ve been looking into Webmentions, and is it only possible to send a single type of “mention” to any site. For instance, could I send a mention as a “Like” or “Reply” or “RSVP”, or is that theoretical at this point. Sorry if I’m in the wrong place to ask the question.
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jgmac1106
yes you can we all do it from our sites all the wime with webmentions
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[Jay_Hoffmann]
What would the request look like, so far all I’ve seen is something like:
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[Jay_Hoffmann]
```{
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[Jay_Hoffmann]
"source": "###",
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[Jay_Hoffmann]
"link": "###",
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[Jay_Hoffmann]
"target": "###",
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[Jay_Hoffmann]
"message": "Webmention was successful"
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[Jay_Hoffmann]
"code": "success",
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[Jay_Hoffmann]
}```
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[Jay_Hoffmann]
Is there additional metadata?
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[jgmac1106]
once we start getting into this we need to move to the dev channel
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[Jay_Hoffmann]
Ah got it, sorry, will repost there
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[jgmac1106]
what is your website?
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[chrisaldrich]
Thanks [grantcodes] and swentel on the location of the hiding UI for Microsub!
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Loqi
[chrisaldrich]: [grantcodes] left you a message 10 hours, 7 minutes ago: you can click the avatar in together to get an individual feed. Pretty sure indigenous Android does the same
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swentel
no problem :)
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swentel
there are a lot of settings in indigenous
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swentel
and I sometimes have a bad/verbose/clumsy way of explaining things in the UI I guess as I'm not native English
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[chrisaldrich]
swentel, it's difficult to tell you're not. There are a lot of settings, but you've done a solid job of breaking them up into logical groups which helps a lot.
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swentel
yeah, without the groups it would have been awful
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swentel
that said, if anyone has suggestions for better or concise strings, https://github.com/swentel/indigenous-android/blob/master/app/src/main/res/values/strings.xml has all the data :)
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swentel
[chrisaldrich], I've opened an issue too for a default setting for the read status too and allowing empty, but taking a little break now, so won't be for next week or so :)
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Hello
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Mike1
Newbee Q
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Mike1
Can I set up an indieweb just from my note 10. Hardly ever use my laptop anymore
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[dave]
@mike1 You can. Indieweb is kind of a lot of ideas and concepts combined, so it depends on what you want to do. IMO the simplest way to get up and running fast is to make a wordpress blog and install plugins to make the indie web functionality work.
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[fluffy]
Note that you won’t be able to run the IndieWeb site *on* the Note 10 — you’ll need something with a dedicated Internet connection and that can accept incoming HTTP requests.
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[fluffy]
There’s plenty of hosting providers out there that you can use to host IndieWeb sites. Do you have any experience with hosting websites?
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