#indieweb 2020-02-23
2020-02-23 UTC
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "fixing reposts" https://mblaney.xyz/2020-02-23-fixing_reposts
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[jgmac1106] morning sad I missed the video session and had to bail on the micor.blog and microformats session. Today's hack goals: fix the grid on https://jgregorymcverry.com/mypoetry (may just start over and use Grid areas)
# [jgmac1106] and then build a notes feed using a calendar view like https://jgregorymcverry.com/poetryportpoems but for notes
# [jgmac1106] issue there is figuring out how to handle datetime without crowding everything out
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# [jgmac1106] I am sad advertisers ruined autoplay. I used that in poetry a lot, lost some interactivity with the audience
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# [jgmac1106] okay first hack day goal met: fixed this poem: https://jgregorymcverry.com/heavenlyremixes
# Loqi [indienews] New post: "Statisfaction" https://www.jeremycherfas.net/blog/statisfaction
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[jeremycherfas] Good morning Zegnat.
# [jgmac1106] JeremyCherfas congrats on the log! sounds cool
# [jeremycherfas] That ^^^ is my Project Day accomplishment, such as it is. I probably won’t be online when demo time rolls around, but perhaps someone would add it to the wiki page for me. Or I’ll do it later.
# [jeremycherfas] Thanks [jgmac1106] It *is* cool, even if I don’t fully understand everything that is going on.
# [jgmac1106] film a quick screencast now
# [jgmac1106] ...worried adding any tracking will change way I write, be saddened to learn I have 3 readers, or change what I write based on numbers, but I might try that. It looks really cool
# [jeremycherfas] There’s literally nothing worth filming.
# [jgmac1106] you, you are silly... but indienews is announcement enough, just add an entry to the demo page when you get a chance
# Loqi Bise is a data analytics script written in python, not strictly IndieWeb but self hosted https://indieweb.org/Bise
# [jeremycherfas] It checks almost anything you want, using regex. So for feed it checks for the existence of `path` includes `/blog.rss` in my case.
# [jeremycherfas] For twitter and web searches, it checks for referrer using a regex of `t\.co\` etc etc
# [jeremycherfas] The docs say you can test for “”path”, “path_regex”, “referer_regex”, or “agent_regex”.
# [jeremycherfas] Right now, I’m using it more or less as it comes out of the box, but I can imagine going deeper once I know what else I might be interested in.
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[yo] Heading over now
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gRegorLove Hiya oh_that_courtney
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# [jgmac1106] In a way using the bridgy site is like a forced pause on publishing for me, the preview option let's me catch so many errors
# [jgmac1106] 268 minutes until Austin demo
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# [Erika_W_] Be gentle, I’m new here. 🙃
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Kongaloosh Hello [Erika_W_]! Nice to meet you :)
# Kongaloosh Wow, I just realized that this year by indieblog will be 5 years old!
# Kongaloosh First commit: 2 Jun 2015
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# [jgmac1106] wooo hooo! I just finished my second project day goal: https://jgregorymcverry.com/poetryportpoems fixed and aligned the dates, added all poems until one will be missing later
# [jgmac1106] resisting urge to have fun styling page with boxes, hover effects, and fonts and moving back to other goals of of fixing my poetry page
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# [jgmac1106] cool idea
# [jgmac1106] I read that on your page this morning and liked it
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[KevinMarks] depends - photos are more scannable, but also more distracting; is the goal to lead people there first?
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[tantek] oh boy. Why do https://www.zeldman.com/ and https://ma.tt/ look the same?
# [tantek] in the old days I could make (tweet) some snarky remark about how I remember how those sites used to be brimming with the personality of their owners, but now Twitter is such a cesspool that in that context it would come off as much more negative than intended (which is a friendly jab among friends) 😕
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# [KevinMarks] weirdly, they seem to have picked up background colour and font styling from my ancient blogger blog
# [KevinMarks] I knew if I waited long enough the spindly sans serif look would go out of fashion again
# [jgmac1106] wondering if grid areas and a bit of javascript (alot?) could be used to allow the user to just move around areas of your website...like could I have a layout selector that just chooses between three different grid areas
# [jgmac1106] oops that is way too dev
# gRegorLove Demos starting shortly
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# gRegorLove IWC Austin Demos
# gRegorLove manton is up first
# gRegorLove ... worked on improving replies on his blog
# gRegorLove ... didn't have replies from other people to him
# gRegorLove ... shows one of his short micro.blog posts on his site and a comment from Brian
# gRegorLove ... takes the conversation from micro.blog and drops it into your page
# gRegorLove ... works via a line of javascript that passes the permalink for the post and it generates all the replies
# gRegorLove ... site is static and doesn't re-generate when people reply
# gRegorLove ... this is rolled out for everyone in micro.blog
# gRegorLove ... shows a setting on micro.blog to turn the feature on
# gRegorLove ... the javascript matches the webmentions.io format, [[jf2]]
# gRegorLove ... also a jsonfeed version
# gRegorLove up next: aaronpk
# gRegorLove ... did a couple small things and a kind of big thing
# [KevinMarks] neat
# gRegorLove ... his blog is listed in the pine.blog directory
# [KevinMarks] I tried to make mention.tech match webmention.io for the jf2 too, so we should iterate on that
# gRegorLove ... it used to say "Aaron Parecki primary" fixed on his end to remove the "primary"
# gRegorLove ... fixed a bug with [[xray]] for an edge case of photo posts. not much to show visually
# gRegorLove ... some live HTML parsing in XRay to demo. Found another edge case that wasn't fixed
# gRegorLove ... also got the livestream up that's running NOW at https://indieweb.live
# gRegorLove ... (infinite aaronpk's slowly populate the screen)
# gRegorLove up next: Brian Schrader
# gRegorLove ... pine.blog/u/sonicrocketman
# gRegorLove ... shows the version that's live; didn't have mf2 so Monocle preview didn't parse anything.
# gRegorLove ... dev version now has mf2 and preview shows up!
# gRegorLove ... site was blank screen without js, now it renders without js
# gRegorLove ... also updated the pine.blog directory to a card layout instead of a list
# gRegorLove up next: jacky, https://jacky.wtf
# gRegorLove ... follow-as-intended.glitch.me
# gRegorLove ... type in any URL and it will check for elsewhere to follow them (Github, Twitter, etc.) via rel-me
# gRegorLove up next: Courtney
# gRegorLove ... crosenthal.com
# gRegorLove ... started blogging in 2002, stopped in 2018
# gRegorLove ... realized social media is not a happy place to be right now, wanted to be blogging again
# gRegorLove ... wanted to create a new blog site.
# gRegorLove ... two requirements: static page generation, wanted to get away from CMS, and preferably Jekyll -- wanted two content streams: articles and a link blog
# gRegorLove ... loading up IP of the site running on her laptop
# gRegorLove ... two content streams in the navigation: Blog and Flow
# gRegorLove ... built with Jekyll
# gRegorLove ... traditional Jekyll pagination doesn't support this type of use. found a jekyll-paginate-v2 plugin
# gRegorLove ... really nice alternative; multiple content streams, lot of customizations, paginate across multiple collections, keywords, etc. Looks to be powerful.
# gRegorLove ... one caveat, the plugin authors say it's not compatible with Github, so would only work if you're self hosting
# gRegorLove up next: Grant Hutchins
# gRegorLove ... made some small improvements to his site.
# gRegorLove ... yesterday it was a card, now it's an [[h-card]]
# gRegorLove ... added a bunch of link tags: u-uid, xfn for rel-me, indieauth, aperture microsub
# gRegorLove ... shows the indieauth login flow up until selecting Github
# gRegorLove ... started to set up his own install of Aperture
# gRegorLove ... all the work today he did on an iPad; demoing his workflow now
# gRegorLove ... started on a Trello board
# gRegorLove ... most work in Safari
# gRegorLove ... mihtool app lets him view source
# gRegorLove ... A lot of split screen with Safari and Prompt app to SSH
# gRegorLove ... used vim to make live edits and see it update in split screen
# gRegorLove up next: Taco Dave
{{dgtd}}# [KevinMarks] vim on an ipad is neat
# [KevinMarks] I used to run ssh on a sidekick so I like this
# gRegorLove ... worked on The Griddle, puzzle blog, worked on discoverability by adding some content types at the bottom
# gRegorLove ... Used Inkscape to generate some SVGs
# gRegorLove ... beta.thegriddle.net
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# gRegorLove ... nice thing about SVG is can customize via CSS
# gRegorLove ... demos changing the CSS
# [KevinMarks] svg++
# gRegorLove ... changes paths to fill color red
# gRegorLove up next: Joe
# gRegorLove ... Joe Masilotti, masilotti.com
# gRegorLove ... added a footer with all of his rel-me links
# gRegorLove ... Added a Webmentions tab at the top
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# gRegorLove ... has some test mentions from the checkmention app
# gRegorLove ... asks for live webmentions; some of us send them and they showed up!
# gRegorLove ... showing the source of a template; minimal javascript pulls mentions from webmention.io and injects in the template
# gRegorLove up next: Tom Brown
# [KevinMarks] comments without webmentions could use commentpara.de
# gRegorLove ...
{{tbbrown}}, http://herestomwiththeweather.com# [KevinMarks] also bridgy to get tweet comments
# gRegorLove ... before today indiebookclub was showing blank posts. The micropub server didn't know about the properties IBC was sending
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# gRegorLove ... works now. Also links to the IBC ISBN page for the book
# gRegorLove up next: Jean MacDonald
# gRegorLove ...
{{macgenie}} http://welltempered.net# gRegorLove ... worked on an Explaining the IndieWeb page that's more user-friendly
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# gRegorLove ... Getting Started page is good but could be intimidating / confusing. Wants micro.blog community to understand what they have better.
# [KevinMarks] microblog could thicken up the font for video 😉
# gRegorLove ... What is the IndieWeb, How Can I participate sections, opening outline
# gRegorLove up next: Cornelius Toole
# gRegorLove ... was thinking about the ephemeral nature of stories (Snapchat, Instagram)
# gRegorLove ... first wanted to figure out storage, where to host the video/photo
# gRegorLove ... set up Backblaze B2 fronted by Cloudflare CDN+DNS
# gRegorLove ... uploaded an image and could download it on his photos.corntoole.com page
# [KevinMarks] looking good from the UK
# gRegorLove ... used zuck.js (linked on wiki) to implement the stories UI
# gRegorLove ... it's a simple list of images / videos with ability to specify how long to play them
# gRegorLove ... last thing to work out is the client
# gRegorLove ... looking at PWA so people don't have to install anything
# [KevinMarks] gets SMIL flashbacks
# gRegorLove Not sure I'm going to demo (nothing too different than opening demo), but I wrote some words: https://gregorlove.com/2020/02/my-indiewebcamp-austin-2020-projects/
# gRegorLove up next: Bryan
# gRegorLove ... Bryan Smith
# gRegorLove ... worked on his wife's site 1proof.com
# gRegorLove ... as you scroll down there's a fade in of the navbar to draw attention to it
# gRegorLove ... responsive in progress, via [[Bootstrap]]
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# gRegorLove ... background image is an SVG
# gRegorLove ... found he needs the xmlns in the <svg> element in order to render
# gRegorLove ... inline <svg> with `display: none`, then a `use xlink` embeds it where he wants it
# [KevinMarks] ah, I see
# gRegorLove ... much smaller filesize and can render at multiple sizes
# [KevinMarks] I tend to just inline them and hope they compress
# gRegorLove up next: Jack Wellborn
# [jgmac1106] record a demo for the wiki if you don't get to show today
# gRegorLove ... was going to set up a Twitter plugin
# [jgmac1106] I am happy to put them all together in a video
# gRegorLove ... then gRegor told him about Bridgy
# gRegorLove ... spent the bulk of day updating/installing WordPress plugins to get it working
# gRegorLove ... one plugin was overriding another one causing problems
# gRegorLove ... decided to add mf2 classes directly in template
# gRegorLove ... "Disclaimer: any competency displayed in yesterday's IndieWeb sessions was part of an elaborate ruse."
# gRegorLove ... end of the day got it mostly updated, everything rendering pretty good
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# [ColinMorris] ty for the play-by-play.
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# [KevinMarks] great demos and a solid stream1
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