#indieweb 2020-02-22
2020-02-22 UTC
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[KevinMarks] Possible project inspiration for the weekend from Warren Ellis (who switched from #knownchat to #WordPress) https://warrenellis.ltd/jot/broadcasting-house-1/
# [KevinMarks] jargon << https://www.vulture.com/amp/2020/02/spread-of-corporate-speak.html “I like Anna Wiener's term for this kind of talk: garbage language. It's more descriptive than corporatespeak or buzzwords or jargon. Corporatespeak is dated; buzzword is autological, since it is arguably an example of what it describes; and jargon conflates stupid usages with specialist languages that are actually purposeful, like those of law or science or medicine
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Loqi ok, I added "https://www.vulture.com/amp/2020/02/spread-of-corporate-speak.html “I like Anna Wiener's term for this kind of talk: garbage language. It's more descriptive than corporatespeak or buzzwords or jargon. Corporatespeak is dated; buzzword is autological, since it is arguably an example of what it describes; and jargon conflates stupid usages with specialist languages that are actually purposeful, like those of law or science or medicine" to the "See Also" section of /Category:jargon https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=68541&oldid=68479
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gRegorLove Next Events: IndieWebCamp Austin https://indieweb.org/next-iwc, Homebrew Website Club Meetup https://events.indieweb.org/tag/hwc, Code of conduct: https://indieweb.org/code-of-conduct, log https://chat.indieweb.org/today
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# gRegorLove manton starting up IWC Austin!
# gRegorLove third IWC in Austin
# gRegorLove Manton, Tom, and Jean are the organizers
# gRegorLove or email austin at indieweb dot org
# gRegorLove showing the /coc
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[chrisaldrich] Good morning IndieWebCampers!
# gRegorLove pointing out name tags and pronouns, sticker to ask before taking photos
# gRegorLove we're livestreaming!
# gRegorLove showing some tools: /discuss, indieweb.org, etherpad
# gRegorLove showing /2020/Austin/Schedule
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# gRegorLove thanks to sponsors: Liveoak, micro.blog, SuperBorrowNet
# gRegorLove up next: first keynote by Natalie
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# gRegorLove Natalie Hester, https://nataliekayh.micro.blog/
# gRegorLove shows a picture of her adorable baby
# gRegorLove Title: Sharing Gratitude
# gRegorLove Keeps a gratitude journal on her micro.blog
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jonl Testing
# gRegorLove Thanks Jean and Manton for inviting her
# jonl Thanx for increasing the volume on the stream, whoever did that.
# jonl Loud and clear now.
# gRegorLove lives here in Austin, works as an academic fundraiser
# [chrisaldrich] Natalie was introduced on an earlier edition of Micro.Monday: https://monday.micro.blog/2020/01/06/natalie-hester-aka.html
# gRegorLove things changed about 10 months ago when their daughter was born
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[jgmac1106] gRegorLove++ for scribing
# gRegorLove Social Media: The Good
# gRegorLove Helped connected her to moms
# gRegorLove Made it easy to learn things. Loved the likes and comments.
# gRegorLove The third party validation felt great.
# gRegorLove Social Media: The Bad
# gRegorLove joined Austin Moms FB group. Over 20k members, conversations pretty intense.
# gRegorLove Found herself getting judgmental about some people.
# gRegorLove Plus a deluge of ads for weight loss
# gRegorLove Eventually realized wasn't part of a community that shared her values
# gRegorLove Competing Missions:
# gRegorLove non-profits often have different missions than the companies they work with
# gRegorLove libraries v publishers
# gRegorLove "support your local library"
# [chrisaldrich] What are books?
# Loqi A book is a written work typically longer than an article, on the indieweb, there are examples of publishing whole books on IndieWeb sites, and publishing lists of books https://indieweb.org/books
# gRegorLove Companies like FB collect our data and inject influencers and ads
# gRegorLove "you just constantly feel like you're being marketed to, and judged"
# gRegorLove An acquaintance drewcastillo.micro.blog posted daily on FB. Simple statements of what he was thankful for and what he was looking forward to that day
# gRegorLove Last year he announced he was leaving FB and going to micro.blog
# gRegorLove She followed him and set up her micro.blog
# gRegorLove and started posting a daily gratitude post
# gRegorLove There are many days she wakes up less than grateful.
# gRegorLove Taking a moment to stop and think about it has improved her days.
# gRegorLove Why Micro.blog:
# gRegorLove Could have bought a notebook to keep a gratitude journal
# gRegorLove She had been inspired by Drew and thought if she shared online she might inspire someone too.
# gRegorLove m.b "It feels a bit like Hulu after we started paying a little bit and got fewer ads"
# gRegorLove The discourse seems pretty civil and content seems real
# gRegorLove Recommends trying to start a gratitude journal for a couple days or a week
# gRegorLove Keep up the good work trying to make the web better
# gRegorLove *applause*
# gRegorLove Natalie mentioned she uses /Marco_Polo app to share photos and video calls
# gRegorLove up next: Pace Smith, http://pacesmith.com/
# gRegorLove Title: Without Glue, Everything Falls Apart
# gRegorLove "Welcome to 1993. Have a pile of wood"
# gRegorLove Imagine you're back in 1993, this technology lets you type things in and then it appears on the web page. Guestbooks!
# jonl We could've stuck with lynx!
# [chrisaldrich] What is a guestbook?
# Loqi guestbook is a way to allow visitors to your site to leave a comment about the website as a whole, instead of a comment about a specific post https://indieweb.org/guestbook
# gRegorLove In the future: we never build the same thing twice, nobody gets betrayed, no more sexual predators, no more marketing, no more bad science [missed one]
# [chrisaldrich] no more capitalism
# gRegorLove "No more marketing: IndieTrustWeb Goods and Services Recommender ITWGASR!"
# gRegorLove No more bad science:
# jonl FYI streaming feed has a lot of distortion.
# gRegorLove No more capitalism: IndieTrustWeb helps prevent fake news, "I trust you"
# gRegorLove media has less influence
# gRegorLove all of these problems get solved by IndieTrustWeb. This is the glue that holds the future internet together.
# gRegorLove So thanks to us for creating it.
# gRegorLove *applause*
# gRegorLove missing context from beginning: Pace is visiting us from the future
# gRegorLove up next: Aaron Parecki, https://aaronparecki.com
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# gRegorLove Title: Social Readers
# gRegorLove Realized at one point he hadn't posted on FB in six months, worried people might have thought he died
# gRegorLove Made a post on FB that he doesn't post there anymore with links to his site
# gRegorLove Liked Instagram, but mostly used it because he had a pipeline where ownyourgram posted his photos back to his site
# gRegorLove They've locked down the API so that's not working as well (at all?)
# gRegorLove Twitter isn't really fun anymore either. Random order with the algorithm, every tweetstorm ends with the "please unroll"
# gRegorLove Thinks we can do something better.
# gRegorLove has been posting on his own site for a while. Which is great, but very different from using it every day as a social experience.
# gRegorLove Integrated posting and reading experience had been missing in indieweb
# gRegorLove In the pas we had Google Reader. Was good at aggregating stuff around the web. Was still just one direction though
# gRegorLove shows /Monocle
# gRegorLove web-based application, responsive for desktop and mobile
# gRegorLove there's a handful of others: /Indigenous on iOS and Android
# gRegorLove and /Together
# gRegorLove Can log in to these readers and see the same content he has subscribed to
# gRegorLove the list of feeds he's subscribed to lives on his site, e.g. via /Aperture
# gRegorLove Specification for this is /Microsub
# gRegorLove Impelemented in WordPress, Drupal, Ekster, Dobrado, others
# gRegorLove one of the /building-blocks
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# gRegorLove last night he got a Push notification from his site from Brian asking if the group was still at the restaurant
# [chrisaldrich] I don't think I've seen that Microsub icon before!
# [jgmac1106] ooh just saw the microsub logo cool!
# gRegorLove Went to /Monocle, typed in a reply and posted it. It was published on his site and a webmention sent to Brian
# gRegorLove No silos involved in the interaction!
# gRegorLove Highlights four of our /principles: Build things you will use yourself, UX and design before protocols, Modularity, Plurality of projects
# gRegorLove *applause*
# gRegorLove brief intermission *music*
# gRegorLove (provide your own music)
# gRegorLove manton.org
# gRegorLove ...been doing a lot of photos lately, photo challenge on micro.blog
# gRegorLove ... has a page for replies to other people
# gRegorLove ... not sure what's next, probably something more with replies
# gRegorLove ... loves blogging, tries to blog every day
# gRegorLove up next: Jean, micro.welltempered.net
# [jgmac1106] macgenie is the feature of her blog
# gRegorLove ... shows categorizing posts in micro.blog
# [jgmac1106] the categories are awesome!!
# gRegorLove ... guinea pig posts have been categorized
# gRegorLove ... and Star Trek posts
# gRegorLove ... and m.b community management related posts
# [chrisaldrich] with a remote demo:
# gRegorLove up next: Brian, pine.blog/u/sonicrocketman
# [chrisaldrich] Hi! I'm https://boffosocko.com.
# [chrisaldrich] The last thing I set up on my site was to import all my content from Untappd and set up a quick method for importing (via /PESOS) all future content from Untappd to my site automatically.
# [chrisaldrich] Think I got it in between the live demos...
# gRegorLove ... his microblog, full blog is at https://brianschrader.com/
# gRegorLove ... /pine.blog is similar to /micro.blog
# gRegorLove ... this is the site he used to contact aaronpk last night about the meetup
# gRegorLove up next: Tom, https://herestomwiththeweather.com/
# gRegorLove ... also shows his micro.blog which has integration with indiebookclub.biz to post read posts
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# gRegorLove ... tomwiththeweather.micro.blog
# gRegorLove up next: Grant Hutchins,
# [chrisaldrich] gRegorLove++ for indiebookclub.biz
# gRegorLove ... rel-me links to his places elsewhere on the web
# gRegorLove ... shows his micro.blog. Posted earlier about Natalie's keynote and she replied on m.b. with an emoji
# gRegorLove ... first reply he's gotten
# gRegorLove ... shows an old blog he wrote in static HTML
# [chrisaldrich] GWG++ for pleasant surprises!
# [jgmac1106] jealous of what will be hte easiest migration ever
# gRegorLove ... "this news page is so old I renamed the file to olds.html"
# gRegorLove up next: Dave, davegoesthedistance.com
# gRegorLove ... you can call me Taco Dave
# gRegorLove ... links to all his other projects online
# gRegorLove ... The Griddle is a puzzle blog he's written since 2006, celebrated 14 years this month
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# [Grant_Hutchins] [jgmac1106] 😆 I hope so!
# gRegorLove ... logs the tacos he tries. up to 472
# gRegorLove ... one of projects is to move that from Tumblr to a self-hosted blog
# gRegorLove up next: wormsandviruses.com
# gRegorLove ... jackwellborn.com
# gRegorLove ... wants to add a favicon, and tweak his micro.blog integration
# gRegorLove up next: Joe Masilotti, masilotti.com
# Pace "Weird Al kind of predicted what YouTube would look like in UHF" - so true!!
# gRegorLove ... wants to add comments in a way that makes sense and he owns them; using /Disqus currently
# gRegorLove up next: Constantine, http://constantine.su
# gRegorLove ... demos his responsive site, some elements hide at smaller resolutions to prevent vertical scrolling
# gRegorLove up next: Cornelius
# gRegorLove ... micro.corntoole.com
# gRegorLove ... blogs and forums were really formative for him. Wants to consolidate his stuff from Tumblr and who knows where else, on his own site
# gRegorLove up next: Ben Scheirman, benscheirman.com
# gRegorLove ... has tried probably about 10 different blogging platforms, careful to preserve permalinks
# gRegorLove ... started to care a bit less about old posts, e.g. nobody wants to know what he ate for lunch 12 years ago
# gRegorLove ... currenlty running on /Ghost
# gRegorLove ... makes Swift screencasts
# gRegorLove ... does video encoding himself
# gRegorLove ... also has the /Disqus comment issue
# [jgmac1106] jgregorymcverry.com/myvideos hoping we can get fragment support in Bridgy so people can subscribe on a per show basis....webmention sounds like a great goal for Constantine
# gRegorLove up next: Juan Sierra, juansierra.dev
# gRegorLove ... built on Gatsby on top of React
# gRegorLove ... portfolio site
# [chrisaldrich] What is Gatsby?
# Loqi Gatsby is a React-based static site generator with live preview https://indieweb.org/gatsby
# gRegorLove ... projects page, contact form
# gRegorLove ... makes music [missed domain]
# gRegorLove up next: Brian Smith
# gRegorLove ... newbie programmer, was in the automotive field
# gRegorLove ... redesigning his wife's site, 1proof.com
# gRegorLove ... here to learn and open to any advice
# gRegorLove up next: Tantek https://tantek.com
# gRegorLove ... tries to post as much as he can on his site first
# gRegorLove ... just over halfway done with a couple 100 days projects
# gRegorLove ... tries to take and post a positive photo once a day
# gRegorLove ... some github issues or comments
# gRegorLove ... RSVPs and discussing web crypto
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# [chrisaldrich] GWG++ for a "true" IndieWeb intro!
# [chrisaldrich] Maybe update your post with an audio recording later GWG?
# [chrisaldrich] ProgressiveEnhancement++
# [chrisaldrich] This is my favorite part of IWC coming up.... 🙂
# gRegorLove aaronpk is introing the session planning process
# [jgmac1106] I was feeding kids lunch, but who ever was talking about grants and starving artists that's my jam: Here are some grants we have gone after: https://indieweb.org/User:Jgregorymcverry.com#IndieWeb_Grants
# [jgmac1106] manton++
# [jgmac1106] not self serving at all
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# [chrisaldrich] Gotta run out to kids sportsball, but I'll try to keep up remotely as I can. Good luck all!
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# Pace I uploaded my slides http://pacesmith.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Without-Glue-Everything-Falls-Apart.pdf
# Guest56380 Checking… checking… 123
# Guest56380 Gah! Name did not take.
# Guest56380 😖
# JackWellborn There we go. Sorry for the spam.
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# [snarfed] [jgmac1106] re https://indiewebcamp.slack.com/archives/C03QR2B4R/p1582392157029200 , just checking, you mean https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/445 , right?
# [jgmac1106] Ooh haven't checked in in awhile...
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# [jgmac1106] Ooh no not that snarfed. The Granary issue. To make rss feeds from h-feed#fragment
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# gRegorLove IndieWebTrust etherpad https://etherpad.indieweb.org/indietrustweb
# gRegorLove *IndieTrustWeb
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[tantek] wow check out this "own your comments" comment on HN from 2010! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1441792
# [tantek] comment << 2010 Hackernews comment about federating comments! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1441792
# Loqi ok, I added "2010 Hackernews comment about federating comments! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1441792" to a brand new "See Also" section of /comment https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=68583&oldid=33549
# [tantek] comment << 2010-06-15 Example of blog posts commenting back/forth: [http://powazek.com/posts/2463 Your right to comment ends at my front door.] — see the end for "Update: John Gruber responded:" <blockquote>… (And hey! Look at us having a conversation without comment forms. Ain’t it grand living in the future?)</blockquote>
# Loqi ok, I added "2010-06-15 Example of blog posts commenting back/forth: [http://powazek.com/posts/2463 Your right to comment ends at my front door.] — see the end for "Update: John Gruber responded:" <blockquote>… (And hey! Look at us having a conversation without comment forms. Ain’t it grand living in the future?)</blockquote>" to the "See Also" section of /comment https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=68584&oldid=68583
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# Salam-Alejkum hi
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# Salam-Alejkum pl
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# Salam-Alejkum pl
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