#indieweb 2020-03-05
2020-03-05 UTC
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "remove spam from the logs" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "remove spam from the logs is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] remove spam from the logs is /IRC#How-to_remove_spam
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katherine1 Eril showed his personal site, exploring the idea of different levels of attention/likes
# katherine1 http://ezerel-com.webflow.io
# katherine1 also working on gemmer.io here: https://www.gemmer.io
# katherine1 Tantek showing a mini talk about Social Readers from IndieWeb Camp Austin 2020
# katherine1 talking about how google reader aggregated a bunch of content from all over the web, and twitter kind of took that marketshare. people post stuff from all over the web, but they're able to reply, comment, interact with it... etc. and ultimately was maybe responsible for the death of google reader?
# katherine1 the speaker is arguing that its important for an independent social reader. its not just a blog (you shouting to the void), and not a reader (just consuming content), but something that lets you read and post. monocle.p3k.io
# katherine1 IndieWeb.org/indigenous is another reader
# katherine1 indiweb.org/together is a javascript based social reader
# katherine1 and a shoutout for aperture.p3k.io
# katherine1 once you build a backend for a social reader, it frees up lots of other people to make front ends for this type of interaction
# katherine1 the talk ends with principles on the indie web: build things you'll use yourself, ux and design before protocols, modularity and plurality of projects. you can find these at IndieWeb.org/principles
# katherine1 advocating for the idea of starting small and making the web better for just yourself (because even if its a small improvement, its still an improvement!)
# katherine1 Eril is showing gemmer.io... how can we show people that something is super good with different levels of liking
# katherine1 you can carry three "gems" (or likes) at a time. you can have a daily gem, a weekly gem, and a monthly gem. (kind of like how you can "Super Like" someone on tinder once a day)
# katherine1 so if you give someone your monthly gem, its a big deal! because you can only do that 12 times a year
# katherine1 its currently centralized, but he'd like to make it a building block for the indie web
# katherine1 oh, you can keep 3 gems of each type (misspoke earlier)
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KartikPrabhu that's a neat idea!
# katherine1 Alex is discussing the idea of a website as a house with rooms. she's looking into how to separate her sub-interests more from her indie blog site
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# katherine1 "I don't want to keep my shitposting with my academic stuff" .. if people are looking for academic stuff, there should be a special place for that apart from the other cruft
# katherine1 making mini blogs or sites sourced from her main site as ... JSON files? (not the most technical)
# katherine1 right now on her blog (kongaloosh.com), you have to sort through a lot of content that may not be relevant if you're looking for a certain type of content (she's focusing specifically on academic posts)
# katherine1 she's sending a request to her personal site with posts under the "academic" tag for json back
# katherine1 then the posts are parsed down into a second, simplified website
# katherine1 right now it lives at research.alexkearney.com
# katherine1 a subdomain is like a room in your internet house
# katherine1 "I went to IndieWeb camp Austin and all I got was the photo embed on my website" – tantek
# katherine1 Tantek added "recent photos" to the sidebar of his website
# katherine1 if he posts a post with multiple images, he takes the first one to put in the "recent photos" block in the sidebar. going through photos from his run in Austin
# katherine1 he's manually syndicating posts from his site to instagram
# katherine1 the layout of the recent posts module is modeled after instagram's feed (full bleed images)
# katherine1 Bradley is talking about Reel of Images – the mobile site has a carousel to scroll for smaller screens. (not sure what the URL is)
# katherine1 Tantek would like to add a "show more" link to reveal more than 12 photos at one time, to keep people on his site rather than have to go to instagram
# katherine1 all of the photos have alt text automatically
# katherine1 if you drop his home page into a social reader, its split up between the main website, articles and photos
# katherine1 tips for writing alt text, "write it like you're describing something to someone over the phone"
# katherine1 wow, the alt text carries over to twitter!!!!
# katherine1 (but its abbreviated. boo)
# katherine1 used h-feed; pretty easy to just set up different feeds (like photos vs articles)
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# [tantek] Can someone who uses Chrome verify this? https://twitter.com/feross/status/1235421075451731968
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@feross Want to see every Chrome extension you've ever installed, even the ones you uninstalled like 5 years ago? https://chrome.google.com/webstore/user/library So many web services have these hidden pages that reveal activity from years ago. Someone should make a list so the obsessive can clear all the data (twitter.com/_/status/1235421075451731968)
# [tantek] It seems like the kind of thing we may want to document like /FreeMyOAuth
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# [yo] just about! lol
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# [ColinMorris] [tantek] Yup, confirming that on Chrome I visit https://chrome.google.com/webstore/user/library and I see all the extensions I've ever had. Split between "installed" and "library".
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# Loqi Universal Greeting Time is the convention of greeting people in online chat with "good morning" regardless of the local time of day of either person https://indieweb.org/UGT
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[KevinMarks] Afternoon
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# KartikPrabhu Looks like Feedly added an AI filter for feed reading https://blog.feedly.com/leo/
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# SpencerDub Good morning, IndieWeb! Does anyone have an XMPP account I could send a test message to? I'm not sure if my server is configured correctly.
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chrisaldrich Inoreader did the same thing at about the same time but framed theirs as "Sort by Magic" https://blog.inoreader.com/2020/02/inoreader-mobile-apps-updated-to-support-automatic-night-mode-microblogs-sort-by-magic-and-popularity-indicators.html
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# [Kevin_Faaborg] Thanks 🙂
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