#indieweb 2020-03-07

2020-03-07 UTC
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@threadreaderapp
We have been receiving requests to allow embedding of unrolled threads automatically to blogs and other publications, including @ChrisAldrich's proposal below. Curious, how many folks are interested in this? And if so, what blogging platforms (eg Wordpress?) should be supported? https://twitter.com/ChrisAldrich/status/1236046889054654465
(twitter.com/_/status/1236067246700498950)
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[Michael_Beckwit
sorry [chrisaldrich] had to RT 😛
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[chrisaldrich]
that's alright... I didn't expect them to take it seriously. The key is to get them to use Micropub though and not build it 5 times for each platform....
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[tantek]
chrisaldrich++
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Loqi
chrisaldrich has 7 karma in this channel over the last year (24 in all channels)
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[jeremycherfas]
Replied to that effect.
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Loqi
[Greg McVerry] @threadreaderapp Please also Just serve up plain HTML and you will work on ALL the platforms regardless of plugin infrastructure ....I look at source code and copy paste to do things like: https://jgregorymcverry.com/webmentionbadgespressedconf19
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[jgmac1106]
chrisaldrich++ it will be awesome not have to copy their source code and fine replace all my markup
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Loqi
chrisaldrich has 8 karma in this channel over the last year (25 in all channels)
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[jgmac1106]
thought I am sure serving up the tweets in plain HTML violates Twitter ToS that has very specific rules on how embedded tweets must look
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[jgmac1106]
NBC News: Google tracked his bike ride past a burglarized home. That made him a suspect..
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Loqi
[indienews] New post: "They’re not dead!" https://www.jeremycherfas.net/blog/theyre-not-dead
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dckc
waves to [tantek] and co
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dckc
I watched Blade Runner 2049 again the other night...
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dckc
wherein an EMP takes out all digital records
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dckc
got me wondering about printing more stuff... maybe even microfilm
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dckc
probably not worth bothering about, given other risks and priorities
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[tantek]
Yeah that scenario is pretty far down on the likelihood list
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[tantek]
I’ll wait for the 3D rock printer to make archives of my posts
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[fluffy]
One of the plot points in my comic Unity is that much of their continued knowledge comes from an ancient archive of Wikipedia stored in a quartz crystal. So their knowledge is a bit flaky because it’s Wikipedia but also even quartz slowly evaporates over time.
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[fluffy]
Not that it matters on a time scale for individual medical records of course.
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[fluffy]
(You also wouldn’t want your records to be read-only.)
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jacky
oh that's kinda wild
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jacky
re: quartz evaporating, I didn't know that
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[fluffy]
Anyway for medical records it’s probably fine to have a traditional laser printer backup.
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[fluffy]
Yeah it’s very very slow. Even solids have a vapor pressure though.
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[fluffy]
Unless they’re at absolute zero. Granted we’re talking like atoms per century if even that much. :)
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[fluffy]
(Unity takes place millions of years in the future, in space.)
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jacky
sppAAACCEEE lol
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[fluffy]
But like yeah laser printers can print at high enough resolution that you can do a pretty good job of saving storage space by shrinking it down and it’s still readable with a magnifying device.
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[fluffy]
When I was in college one of my professors said we could have as many notes as we could fit on both sides of a sheet of paper, and I had really good eyesight, so I printed all my notes in a 3-point font and could read it just fine. Not that I needed to, I was just being a smartass.
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[fluffy]
I mean I did ask if there was a font size minimum and he said “you’re not allowed to bring in a magnifying glass” so it’s not like I broke any rules.
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[fluffy]
Oh oops I thought this was #chat
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jacky
lmfaoooo no magnifying glass!
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[tantek]
Hey folks, the Opt Out Tools team have released their browser extension to hide misogyny from feeds! (Their founder Teresa gave a keynote at IWC Berlin2 in November where we also hosted their hackathon!) https://twitter.com/optoutools/status/1236253985457295360
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@optoutools
#TimesUp, no more silencing women online. For #IWD2020, we're releasing a browser extension that hides misogynistic harassment from your feed. We want women to be able to #OptOut of online abuse! @SofieHagen @jesyneIsson @PennyRed Check us out at http://www.optoutools.com https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video_thumb/ESgJz-5XcAIRtdE.jpg
(twitter.com/_/status/1236253985457295360)
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Loqi
Thanks! We need one more person to confirm the retweet!
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aaronpk
here's an interesting question... if you block someone, should that also block posts from other people who mention both you and the other person in a post?
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[tantek]
No system I know of or have seen works like that
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aaronpk
similar but slightly different question is if you block a person who replied to you and then someone replies to that post, but they are not blocked, should you not see that post too?
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[tantek]
depends if they kept you in the canoe or not
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sknebel
I think if you mute an account name on Twitter it works like that (which is distinct from blocking them)
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aaronpk
i'm having this problem right now trying to block this thread i got pulled in to on mastodon
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[tantek]
no sknebel, again it depends on whether you are explicitly @-mentioned or not
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aaronpk
i blocked the originating server, but i'm still getting notices of people liking posts in the reply chain since i'm mentioned in all these posts
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[tantek]
yeah you'll get notifications on any post you're mentioned in, that is not from a blocked account/server
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aaronpk
i guess what i'm really trying to do is mute this thread
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[tantek]
interesting! not sure we've actually documented that
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[tantek]
though it's definitely something you can do in Slack and FB for example
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aaronpk
and twitter too i think?
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[tantek]
Slack has "Unfollow thread"
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[fluffy]
Mastodon also lets you mute a thread entirely
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[tantek]
what is it called in the UI though?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "it called in the UI though" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "it called in the UI though is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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aaronpk
it's "mute conversation" on twitter
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aaronpk
ah it's just the notifications that it mutes, you'll still see them if you look on the website
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aaronpk
also "mute conversation" on mastodon
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[tantek]
correct, that's how mute works in general
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[tantek]
let's go with that naming convention then
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[tantek]
what is mute conversation
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "mute conversation" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "mute conversation is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek]
mute conversation is a feature on [[Twitter]] and [[Mastodon]] that stops notifications of replies to a specific thread that you started or were mentioned in.
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[tantek]
mute << mute conversation
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[tantek]
mute conversation << mute
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Loqi
ok, I added "[[mute]]" to a brand new "See Also" section of /mute_conversation https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=68892&oldid=68890
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[tantek]
I feel I have heard of this site before but wow this is some composite stream styling: https://www.kickscondor.com/
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Loqi
[indienews] New post: "v0.6.0 released!" https://publ.beesbuzz.biz/blog/57-v0-6-0-released