#indieweb 2020-03-25
2020-03-25 UTC
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dmitry I don't get it. Most of users, if not all of them, will never read HTML, they'll see parsed HTML in their navigator
# dmitry although, using classes has other pros in comparasing with using strong/italic/underline/etc tags in some cases
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[jgmac1106] dmitry do you mean why do folks rely on using the class property for metadata? Might be a better conversation for the dev channel
# [jgmac1106] To me I do get it, keeping your content in metadata in one file, in a format that is both machine readable and human readable....for me it's more like what's not to get
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# [g33kcentric] I just had a thought that seemed quite interesting and hopefully not too insensitive, keeping a C19 lockdown diary, but in the style of being in a zombie apocolypse. Create an article once a day with what you ate etc and then at a designated time, radios have been juiced up enough to contact others (send a webmention)
# dmitry no, I didn't meant that. I just don't get it, because I didn't get the real purpose of it. I'm a new to all this
# [jgmac1106] oh okay different dimitry, my apologies, yeah so without getting to devy all the IndieWeb building blocks connect and talk to each other using community maintained metadata that any webpage can carry
# [jgmac1106] so in what k foster is talking abaout if she wanted to build an interactive COVID-19 zombie story we can. Every article they would write would get marked up as an h-entry, this has article name, author info, etc....then when my reader picks up their article...
# [jgmac1106] I can publish a reply on my site, it will also have an h-entry and will then show up on K Foster site
# [jgmac1106] We are playing around with the idea fo using this to build a zombie game where people can be "bitten"
# [jgmac1106] and Zombie is a good metaphor for many of the metadata experiments of the past....a lot of zombie "data" hanging around in headers, in side files that no one can ever read or use....I like thinking long term...if an ancient alien race came across my site, either in storage or printed on text, having the info on one page makes it easier to read
# [jgmac1106] (ancient and future....because of the ability to warp time dilation)
# dmitry oh wow. I thought it was messages on a different topics. I still only begin to understand, but sounds much more interesting and it starting make sense
# dmitry thank you for explanation
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# [jgmac1106] Do you have a personal website? or url?
# [jgmac1106] really it all begins there, and then the journey is up to your goals, bunch of share values for a better web and find when you hang with folks who align their goals with a better world you learn and pick up stuff in a fun and fullfilling way
# [jgmac1106] so messages on different topics.
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# [jgmac1106] There are messages that are different in our face to face communications, the same should be true for our websites. People do RSVPs, and post events for example, but mainly it is just notes, articels, photos, same stuff you do on social media
# [jgmac1106] that metadata...it allows all the tools to talk each other and leads to incremental improvements that try to get at the most humancentric design possible
# [jgmac1106] dmitry If you do not have one yet you can just get a website started if you want to learn more. We have been working on these: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/microformats if that makes sense to you your questions probably better for #dev channel
# [jgmac1106] but feel free to ask any how do I get started questions here, someone usually around....off to go get my kids to school (which means get off computer to save bandwidth)
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# dmitry jgmac1106, I am making own website again. It was the reason I've started to learn web development in high school. At the time I've succeed and did made good enough personal website on HTML & JS, on free hosting. A decade of different things later, I'm doing a website I've always wanted, mostly for fun and a little practical reasons
# [g33kcentric] awesome! Starting a new project is always exciting 🙂
# dmitry sure
# dmitry fun projects is one of the things we call living on full :D
# [g33kcentric] hehe 🙂
# dmitry I've found this IRC channel a couple of weeks ago and before that I honestly thought that there is no one in the world anymore, who would find making personal site fun or necessary
# dmitry most of the personal websites in my experience are from 2000-2008 and now either forgotten or gone
# dmitry it's great that this community exists and prosper
# [g33kcentric] yeah, they are all a great bunch! Have a gander here 🙂 https://personalsit.es/
# dmitry no, thank you. I'll take a look on it later
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# dmitry looks like a very interesting catalog. btw, catalogs is one of the thing I miss. Search engines are great, but catalogs is another good way to navigate the web and they all seems like gone
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[schmarty] [jgmac1106] were you referring to [dmitshur]?
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# [schmarty] dmitry: kickscondor.com blogs about directories as concept, runs one of his own at <s://href.cool/|href.cool>, and makes monthly-ish blog posts summarizing interesting sites he came across that month: https://www.kickscondor.com/hrefhunt/
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# dmitry wow
# dmitry it's amazing
# dmitry thank you
# dmitry should definetly check it regulary
# dmitry does indieweb has subreddit or something?
# dmitry or maybe you can recommend some other subreddits, relative to the subject?
# dmitry I do read mostly reddit, trhough simple php script, which grabs interesting posts (gudged by their rating) from my favorite subreddits
# dmitry and I do want to add RSS feed to it as well, especially now, when I suppose that most of interesting personal websites will have RSS updates
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Loqi Reddit is a link aggregator and bulletin board site where community members may submit links and text posts, vote on the submitted entries, and post comments on them https://indieweb.org/Reddit
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# [jgmac1106] we have indieweb.xyz
# [jgmac1106] bunch of options, my feed reader my fav
# [jgmac1106] when communities built around feeds and blogs you kinda don't need one reddit
# dmitry interesting
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# [jgmac1106] build* past tense accident
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# [jgmac1106] so dmitry that cool thing about microformats we were talking about, it turns any HTML page into a blog post
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# [jgmac1106] folks like [aaronpk] and others built readers that allow us to both READ and WRITE from the reader using the metadata
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# [jgmac1106] but there are also tools that turn can convert the HTML page into RSS feeds, I do this to publish poetry, photo, video shows, bunch of fun stuff
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# dmitry wow, also interesting. This convertation became available to pages with microformatting or it's using some different method?
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[calumryan] We'll do a group photo (screen capture) for HWC London Online at 19:00 GMT. Join us back on Zoom a few minutes before then if you'd like to be in it
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# [calumryan] Certainly, working on a schedule that fits better for HWC online
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# Loqi Indigenous is a set of native apps for iOS and Android currently in beta that supports posting your website using Micropub and a built-in reader that supports Microsub https://indieweb.org/Indigenous
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# [jgmac1106] RIP Nexus 7, best tablet ever built
# [jgmac1106] My kids rock the 8in Galaxies now
# [jgmac1106] no too unsecure now, and battery has to be close to out cycles
# [jgmac1106] more chat anyways than main channel
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[chrisaldrich] Good to see you Eddie. Importantly, how's the family doing?
# [chrisaldrich] Managing kids is *way* harder than managing any 50 websites.... 🙂
# [chrisaldrich] I will admit one of my favorite parts of my site are the private posts of baby photos and videos from years ago and the regular daily reminders of my old content.
# Loqi on this day is a feature on some silos and indieweb sites which show posts published on the current (typically Gregorian) day of the year in previous years; commons sites tend to show more general historical events that occurred on that same day https://indieweb.org/on_this_day
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