#indieweb 2020-03-26

2020-03-26 UTC
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[chrisaldrich] HWC Online West coast is up: https://events.indieweb.org/2020/03/online-homebrew-website-club-west-coast-5CZGhYbdcga1
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gRegorLove intros
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gRegorLove Salt, altsalt.net
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gRegorLove Recently been wanting to own his calendars and integrate into his website
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gRegorLove up next: Maxwell maxwelljoslyn.com
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gRegorLove added local comments so people don't have to comment via webmention
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gRegorLove wants to work on some CSS stuff for displaying webmentions
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aaronpk correction: added commentparade
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gRegorLove up next: Andrew
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aendruk This is me: https://andrew.kvalhe.im/
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gRegorLove next maintenance for his website is some plumbing related stuff
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gRegorLove interested in hearing what people are working on
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[chrisaldrich] gRegorLove at gRegorLove.com
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[chrisaldrich] he's been working on Typography recently and tinkering with IndieWebify.me
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gRegorLove up next chrisaldrich, boffosocko.com
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gRegorLove just updated his install of Indiginous (sp?)
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GWG Indigenous
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gRegorLove was checking out Kicks Condor's fraidycat reader
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gRegorLove and tinkering with wiki spaces
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[chrisaldrich] aaronpk++ for the events website
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Loqi aaronpk has 29 karma in this channel over the last year (207 in all channels)
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gRegorLove up next aaronpk, aaronparecki.com
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gRegorLove wants to update events on his site after experience of setting up Meetable
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gRegorLove up next: GWG, david.shanske.com
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gRegorLove at last week's meetup he did some work with timezones and pictures, shows the photo upload date instead of taken date
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gRegorLove tonight wants to push out some software he got pull requests for
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gRegorLove up next: tantek, tantek.com
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[tantek] 🙂
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GWG Hmm...topic ideas...
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Salt[m] d
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Salt[m] static sites
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GWG After [tantek]'s comment earlier, how about displaying link previews appropriate to the post type of the URL being previewed?
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[chrisaldrich] always fun /wiki /discovery /readers
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gRegorLove indiewebify.me: do we need the "level 1, 2, 3" etc.
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[chrisaldrich] GWG: which channel was that? I thought I was caught up.
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: The WordPress channel
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maxwelljoslyn I've seen some people doing previews of "where does this <a> tag take me", GWG/Tanket proposal seems like a natural extension when linking to indieweb'd sites
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maxwelljoslyn Tantek* sorry!
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[chrisaldrich] +1 to gRegorLove's idea
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Salt[m] 1: static sites, 2: link previews, 3: /wiki/disc/read, 4: indiewebifyme levels
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[chrisaldrich] GWG: is that something that's built into core? I know it exists within comments natively...
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Salt[m] 4, 3, 1, 2
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: No. [tantek] commented on the link previews in Post Kinds.
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aaronpk 4 2 3 1
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gRegorLove vote: 2, 4, 3, 1
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[chrisaldrich] 4, 2, 3, 1
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GWG I vote, 4, 2, 3, 1
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maxwelljoslyn 2 1 3 4
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Salt[m] topic order: indiewebifyme levels, link previews, /wiki/discovery/read, static sites
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[chrisaldrich] What are building blocks?
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Loqi Building blocks are key design-patterns, technologies, and methods for building and improving your independent website https://indieweb.org/building-blocks
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maxwelljoslyn Salt: we have pages like https://indieweb.org/Getting_Started linked from the front page which prominently features
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maxwelljoslyn services that non-developers can use to get involved
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[chrisaldrich] What is quick start?
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Loqi One of the quickest ways to start owning both your online identity and your own data in an IndieWeb friendly fashion is to choose a pre-existing platform that provides a variety of building blocks https://indieweb.org/Quick_Start
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[chrisaldrich] Here's a link to that Chris Coyer comments thread: https://boffosocko.com/2020/02/23/curating-comments-threads-css-tricks/
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Loqi [Chris Aldrich] This is an interesting old thread. Could use some contemporary examples.
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[chrisaldrich] What is MicroDav?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "MicroDav" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "MicroDav is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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gRegorLove jacky, Salt[m], maybe start with brainstorming section on https://indieweb.org/CardDAV
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jacky will do in a few
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Salt[m] d
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maxwelljoslyn GWG what did you say about Microsub after I mentioned "a flag for suggeting that a post is best read on its orginal site"
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GWG There's a list of proposed extensions/issues
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maxwelljoslyn Thanks
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jacky what is microdav
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "microdav" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "microdav is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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jacky microdav is /CardDAV#Using_Contact_Lists_on_Our_Own_Site
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Loqi ok
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jacky lol
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jacky what is microdav
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Loqi CardDAV is a protocol for syncing contact information, typically from personal devices like phones to services or web servers, such as your own website https://indieweb.org/microdav
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jacky hmm, that's going to be a problem but that's okay (for now)
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gRegorLove Salt[m]++ for organizing the meetup, good conversations tonight
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Loqi Salt[m] has 1 karma over the last year
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[jgmac1106] !tell jacky have you seen this, came across from Doug Belshaw on Twitter: https://video.etherpad.com
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[jgmac1106] this is really cool.....really easy.....be great for hwc or iwc sessions, wonder who is behind it
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Zegnat That is interesting, [jgmac1106]! Just tested it out, and zero configuration.
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[jgmac1106]1 yeah, just works, record a screen locally and done
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[jgmac1106]1 promise to keep servers up for three years
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Zegnat Wondering if we could add that to the indieweb Etherpad. Fair warning: if it is the plugin that I found, this will probably be more like the P2P platforms that we tested than like Zoom and its kind. Meaning that people with bad bandwidth or connections might be left wanting.
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Zegnat I *think* it is running this: https://github.com/ether/ep_webrtc
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Loqi [ether] ep_webrtc: Add WebRTC based audio/video chat for your etherpad documents.
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[jgmac1106]1 fyi https://twitter.com/mozilla/status/1243208612836761600
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@mozilla Interested in our Fix-The_Internet Spring MVP Lab? Register and join this 1hr online overview, Q+A, and jam session. 🕗 Tonight, Mar 26, 2020 08:00 PM ET. #springMVPlab https://bit.ly/3bEc0AH https://twitter.com/mozilla/status/1242111499281317897 (twitter.com/_/status/1243208612836761600)
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[tantek] [jgmac1106] cool. Events -> meta though please 🙂
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JBrittSteele hi
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doubleloop rrix: is the Arcology source anywhere public? (the links to fort.kickass.systems don't seem to load)
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doubleloop would love to have a look at it
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rrix doubleloop: not right now, I reused the repo name for a rails app ... I'll push the code though. Private message me an email address and I'll shoot you a link when I do
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rrix I'm really close to having it rewritten in Python to get the rendering system out of my single-threaded OS
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doubleloop rrix: awesome! thanks, will do
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doubleloop I'm after the org-mode version if you still have that :)
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rrix I do. :)
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[tantek] aaronpk, did you blog about your indieweb live broadcasting setup that you demo'd at IWC Austin?
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aaronpk oh i haven't yet!
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[tantek] I need something to point people to!
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jacky :)
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Loqi jacky: [jgmac1106] left you a message 8 hours, 35 minutes ago: have you seen this, came across from Doug Belshaw on Twitter: https://video.etherpad.com
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[tantek] aaronpk, quote from a live video I'm watching, which the speaker observed is ironically dependent on YouTube: "We cannot rely on corporate platforms to facilitate our communications in a general strike"
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jacky I haven't but that's not what I was aiming for at all
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jacky I'm talking about bringing something like Vimeo / YouTube to my own site
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jacky _BUT_
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jacky this would be amazing for IWC Online tbh
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[tantek] jacky, YT is more than just playback
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jacky well just the player + "social" facets then
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jacky there's def a lot to it that's abstracted away for viewers
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[tantek] the "social" facets sound like Reader (Viewer?) features
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jacky and publishers
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jacky yeah they are! but I do want to bring some of them to my own site (vis a vis web actions)
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[tantek] nice, yes, totally agreed on the complementary nature of webactions and social reader features
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aaronpk [tantek]: until i get the new post up, there's this! I used this as a reference at IWC austin actually https://aaronparecki.com/2016/11/19/15/self-hosted-facebook-live
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Loqi [Aaron Parecki] Creating a Self-Hosted Alternative to Facebook Live using Nginx and Micropub
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[tantek] 2016?!?
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aaronpk it's an extra step beyond what I did at austin because this also makes posts on my website with the archived live video after the fact
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aaronpk right?
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[tantek] yes that's exactly the right thing
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[tantek] ok let me see if I can word a tweet-length post with all this
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