#indieweb 2020-04-01

2020-04-01 UTC
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[chrisaldrich] On the Meetup question, is it possible for me to post an event to my site and syndicate it to https://events.indieweb.org/ via webmention the same way I can post to news.indieweb? Having one or more topic-centric or locality-centric syndication hubs like events.indieweb.org could be a boon for replacing some of the discovery pieces that meetup.com has.
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[chrisaldrich] Or better, can I use a micropub client to publish an event to my site and auto-syndicate it to the events.indieweb endpoint?
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aaronpk right now there's no syndication to events.indieweb.org
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[chrisaldrich] or syndicate it to others like upcoming.org, etc.?
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[chrisaldrich] or perhaps if events.indieweb was a micropub client that would save a few steps?
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aaronpk until I see more sites successfully syndicating posts via webmention to news.indieweb.org, i'm not confident that many people would use that feature or that it would actually work well, since there are so many more properties in an event compared to a note
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aaronpk events.indieweb.org as a micropub client to post events back to your site is interesting though, lots of edge cases to work out however, such as what happens if your site doesn't support events at all, what sort of text fallback should it do, etc
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[chrisaldrich] The simple fallback may be to post everything as an article or note with the rest of the details in a text block with html/mf2 markup? Those are reasonably well supported on most Micropub servers, right? Not sure how parsers would view markup for h-event within h-entry for platforms like WordPress et al.
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[chrisaldrich] Tantek's simple text syndications to Twitter are probably not a bad example, though those have no mark up at all on Twitter.
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aaronpk one of my goals with Meetable is to have people be able to spin up a copy of it easily to create local hubs for event discovery
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[chrisaldrich] Meetable++ aaronpk++
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[g33kcentric] Just a throw away thought, and im not sure why you would want to do it, but does anyone post the newsletter they subscribe to on their sites? Eeither just links or the newsletter in its entireraty, pershaps for archilve
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[jgmac1106] and I see this today from a friend with newslteers and podcasts he subscribes to
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[jgmac1106] https://dougbelshaw.com/blog/2020/04/01/wiki-backup-information-environment/
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[g33kcentric] hehe cool!
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[jgmac1106] been really enjoying wiki-ing as of late, might have to work a personal one into my workflow,
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[jeremycherfas] I post a cut down version of my newsletter — just links really — and often include a link to the whole thing if there’s something in that I’m proud of.
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[g33kcentric] thats cool 🙂
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[jeremycherfas] Of course what I would love to know is whether it drives signups. Maybe, occasionally.
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[jgmac1106] << wishes JeremyCherfas always posted entire newsletter so I could follow on website and unsubscribe
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[jgmac1106] ... Be opposite for me, lose a sign up... Though friends report heavy traffic on archive pages
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Gaffen Hey all, I heard about indieweb via SSB, excited to find out more about the project - and to better integrate my personal site! :)
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[jgmac1106] Tracking bounce rate from archive to sign up page be easy
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[jgmac1106] Hello Gaffen, most of us hang and talk about personal sites, but quite a few SSB fans here
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[jgmac1106] What is SSB?
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Loqi Secure Scuttlebutt is a P2P system to sync message feeds, used to build (among others) social applications that work in off-grid/sneakernet scenarios https://indieweb.org/SSB
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Gaffen Yeah, that makes a lot of sense really - I think the projects are sympathetic to one another
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[g33kcentric] I've been doing a little bit of research into this stuff, loRa and all that
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Gaffen I've just started to realise I need to start blogging again - back in 2009 I ran one for about 3-4, maybe even five years whilst I was at uni
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Gaffen So I started writing and I heard about this project - pretty timely really because I love RSS, but if feels like it's been left in the dust somewhat because social media
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[jgmac1106] Right place to get you started again.
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Gaffen :D
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Gaffen I'm very interested in webmentions. I do think for blogs comments can be pretty useful, but not so common off of social media any more. Webmentions seem to plug the gap a little.
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[jgmac1106] well if you want to get started with no work at all try ihazawebsite or micro.blog
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[jgmac1106] little bit more work, but more control, you have WordPress, after that a 1,000 rabbit holes on the path to plurality
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Gaffen Yeeeah, I'm already pretty far down that rabbit hole ^_^;
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Gaffen I'm running a static rendered site using eleventy.js, powered by a wordpress backend and using buddy.works as a CI server. I'm thinking of cutting buddy out of the process but need to find a way to run builds on a webhook - I have a VPS that could potentially do it but it's pretty cheap. I soppose if I'm not constantly running builds that's less of a problem though.
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[jgmac1106] What is eleventy?
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Loqi Eleventy is a JavaScript based static site generator that allows the user to select their own preferred template engine and theme, which in practice can and does enable use of microformats2 https://indieweb.org/Eleventy
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[jgmac1106] there will be tips to add webmentions there ^^
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Gaffen Nice!
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Gaffen That's a pretty cool little bot
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[jgmac1106] Who is Loqi?
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Loqi Loqi is a friendly and useful bot/digital therapist present in the IndieWeb discussion channels https://indieweb.org/User:Loqi.me
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[jgmac1106] begins by making sure your templates are proper HTML with a tiny bit if metadata, probably a few templates or themes on that page,
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Gaffen Any discussions on how best to do comments via static sites? I guess for me it's probably best to piggyback off wordpress and integrate commenting via the REST API
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[jgmac1106] I use one line and a script from fluffy but those type of questions better in the dev channel
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[jgmac1106] example from yesterday, https://jgregorymcverry.com/notes/2020-03-31-1 I don't have static site, bit of PHP, but my webmentions work similarly
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Loqi [Greg McVerry] So proud of Ben as he filmed his STEM experimment and edited the video using screencast-o-matic. He made a catapualt out of house hold items and then reflected on his iterative design. [video]
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[jgmac1106] What is SSG?
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Loqi Static site generators are programs that take a set of flat text files on disk and transforms them into a set of static html files ready to be served by a standard web server, or some variation of this example https://indieweb.org/SSG
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Gaffen Yes of course, I should join there too
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[jeremycherfas] [jgmac1106] There are services that will deliver the newsletter as RSS, I believe.
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[jeremycherfas] Less tracking be better.
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[calumryan] We are starting HWC London/Europe online now - join us https://events.indieweb.org/2020/04/online-homebrew-website-club-europe-london-2Kc9aetW589f
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GWG Perfect timing. I was eating lunch.
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[LewisCowles] didn't realise the time
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[LewisCowles] https://lewiscowles-known.herokuapp.com/content/all/
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[LewisCowles] mine is not on my site, it's that link, I'm toying with known
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[jgmac1106] ana demoed here monthly bookmark archive at HWC London
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[jgmac1106] Then Calumryan showed some of his recent edits and how he trackes what he is doing on his wiki and drafts blog posts on the wiki, he uses emacs
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[jgmac1106] then I went and showed my monthly arhive page and the new coursebuilder [mapkyca] build
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[jgmac1106] amiitgawande shows how he integrated dropbox support with his micro.blog
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[jgmac1106] Lewis Cowles show his Known heroku one button demo
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[jgmac1106] had to do do some work on the s3 program
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[jgmac1106] talks about how do we tell people the free s3 account comes with just 5 megs
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[jgmac1106] little things like that, the goal is to have a button when people say "I want that" they can get it
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[jgmac1106] and that is a wrap for HWC intros, comings up
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[Ana_Rodrigues] [calumryan] I liked today’s format - starting with the quiet hour and then the chat bit. I think it worked pretty well!
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[amit] It was great being part of the HWC event. Could progress on the draft that has in my to-write for long. Also was good to chat and know from the projects of all.
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doubleloop [amit]: great to have you join! Your work adding IndieWeb building blogs to blot is cool.
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doubleloop s/blogs/blocks
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doubleloop I liked the format too but wonder if it could be offputting to new joiners - if someone new arrives at the beginning but everyone is quiet for an hour, it might not feel so welcoming?
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Gaffen Damn, I missed the meeting - but at least I published something today \o/
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Review of Typlog as a turnkey platform for IndieWeb as a Service" https://boffosocko.com/2020/04/01/review-of-typlog-as-a-turnkey-platform-for-indieweb-as-a-service/
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