#indieweb 2020-06-24

2020-06-24 UTC
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[jgmac1106] and an Ackbar reference....love it
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jacky what are commenting guidelines
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "commenting guidelines" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "commenting guidelines is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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jacky what are guidelines
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "guidelines" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "guidelines is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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jacky hmm
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jacky what are comments
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Loqi Comments are displayed in the context of an original post, and may be a mix of syndicated reply posts from other sites received via Webmention, as well as locally created comments https://indieweb.org/comments
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jacky wondering where I'd link something like https://kevq.uk/commenting-guidelines
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jacky I like the idea of commenting guidelines
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jacky would make it more intuitive if I happen to block / hide someone's comments on my site
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[tantek] sounds like of like a personal site ToS?
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[tantek] what is a ToS
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "ToS" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "ToS is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] hmm
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[tantek] I like the idea too, and having a real world example always helps
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jacky yeah!
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jacky though I don't know if this is as a ToS; it's like "what to expect when you leave a comment"
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[tantek] right. more like community guidelines
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[tantek] jacky, kinda like https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/twitter-rules ?
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jacky hmnmm yeah
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[snarfed] another timely example: https://web.archive.org/web/20200109022004/https://slatestarcodex.com/comments/
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Loqi Don
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jacky lol
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jacky > Slate Star Codex has lower standards than either ancient Sufis or preachy Victorians, and so we only require you to pass at least two of those three gates.
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[tantek] lol!
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gRegorLove what is comment policy?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "comment policy" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "comment policy is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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gRegorLove [fluffy] has one http://beesbuzz.biz/comment-policy
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jacky yes
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jacky two merits an entry lol
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jacky what is comment policy
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "comment policy" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "comment policy is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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jacky comment policy is /comments#Policy_Examples
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Loqi ok
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jacky what is comment policy
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Loqi Comments are displayed in the context of an original post, and may be a mix of syndicated reply posts from other sites received via Webmention, as well as locally created comments https://indieweb.org/comment_policy
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jacky hmm is there a way to get a dfn for a inline item? probably not
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gRegorLove Don't think so. Loqi is getting it from the p-summary
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[chrisaldrich] The Atlantic article on My Little Pony I posted in #indieweb-chat is a good counter example of what bigger sites that don't have comment or community policies can encounter...
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[chrisaldrich] jacky, with this many examples it might be worth it's own page with a see also link to comments?
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maxwelljoslyn @chrisaldrich I thought this channel, #indieweb as seen on the web client, was the chat channel ... what is #indieweb-chat?
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GWG maxwelljoslyn: It is the unlogged off-topic chat channel
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GWG It appears on Slack and Freenode
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jacky [chrisaldrich]: perhaps if it has a bit more nuance (like explanations of each policy)
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jacky is not opposed to having it on a separate page
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jacky but it seems like okay for something under 5 links
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[chrisaldrich] Either way is fine jacky. I was coincidentally looking for almost the exact same sort of link location for one or two things today, so I'll follow your lead and add them later. 🙂
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jacky :)
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ben_thatmustbeme loqi, messages?
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GWG ben_thatmustbeme: Welcome
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ben_thatmustbeme hey GWG
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ben_thatmustbeme been some time
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GWG ben_thatmustbeme: Hope you are well.
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GWG ben_thatmustbeme: Maybe we could entice you into IWC West online this weekend
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[KevinMarks] I recognise several people in the slatestarcodex banned list
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[tantek] they have a public banned list?!?
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[LewisCowles] is the twitter using the same logo the same person?
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[LewisCowles] it links to them, but seems like drivel
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[LewisCowles] a coded language?
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[LewisCowles] or just nonsense
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[jgmac1106] morning all
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[KevinMarks] The bio says it is for bad puns. I think it is linked from the blog
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[KevinMarks] The banned list is at the bottom of https://web.archive.org/web/20200109022004/https://slatestarcodex.com/comments/
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Loqi Don
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[jgmac1106] Good to see the facebook boycott spreading: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/23/ben-jerrys-joins-boycott-of-facebook-and-instagram-ads-in-the-us.html
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Loqi [indienews] New post: https://kevq.uk/how-to-create-an-indieweb-profile/ (from https://www.jvt.me/mf2/2020/06/cuvg8/)
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ben_thatmustbeme hmm, perhaps GWG, thats all i will say, is perhaps
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[schmarty] Adafruit is proudly joining the FB spending ban for July. We don't spend as much compared to the big names on the list, but are excited there is a growing chorus of voices trying to apply pressure.
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vilhalmer nice!
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[CrowderSoup] That's awesome, I hadn't heard about the FB ad spending boycott.
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[tw2113] if enough places do that, they’d have to fill their need to show me ads by showing me stuff they think i wouldn’t want
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[jgmac1106] what I have been busy doing....volunteering and running a youth camp in New Haven: http://tech-4-teens.club/
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[jgmac1106] everyone of the kids will get a website using SemPress at myname.tech-4-teens.club
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ben_thatmustbeme anyone need a hey.com invite?
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ben_thatmustbeme just got mine
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ben_thatmustbeme can use it multiple times
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[jgmac1106] does that make hey hey hey.com
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[tw2113] i have too many email accounts already, so i’m not needing one
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jmac I'm paying attention to hey; I hope people like it
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jmac FWIW I have been using a paid Fastmail account for jmac.org email for a year or two now and it's been working out splendidly
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jmac And it has basically one-click migration from Gmail, which is very much what I wanted at the time
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[schmarty] jmac: gmail as in you were paying google to host your jmac.org email?
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jmac [schmarty]: No, I was using some free-tier "Google Apps" nonsense that seemed like a good idea in 2005
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aaronpk my email is still on that
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jmac And both Google and I were desperately trying to get me off of it
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jacky I've been using fastmail for some time now
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jacky it's kinda wild how well it works to a point where I don't notice it
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[schmarty] oh right i forgot google apps was once free 😂
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[schmarty] "free"
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jmac Google Apps (or whatever it's called today) worked fine for years, but it's been slowly sliding to the periphery of what Google cares about, and one gets the impression that at some point someone will notice it's still plugged in and switch it off to make room for a coffee machine or something (per News, Wave, etc)
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aaronpk the downside of sharing a family domain is if I want to move my email to fastmail I have to move my family's email there too
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jmac Yeah, I'm hogging jmac.org all to myself so my migration case was easy, it's true
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[jgmac1106] ....let his credit card expire....and now lost legacy status with Google.....need to pay or figure out wha your do with 95 gigs of stuff
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