#indieweb 2020-07-07

2020-07-07 UTC
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[chrisaldrich] GWG, do you have a code snippet that we could use to add it into a meta template? I suspected that you were probably capturing the data, but just not showing it.
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[chrisaldrich] I know that the IndieAuth plugin collects and shows the client, so I suspect that it already even has an icon one could use as well.
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: I have to go look...Micropub stores the client name in the post. The icon is not stored, just the external URL of the image...so that would require a change.
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[chrisaldrich] GWG, presumably the authorization would store the image on first use (in IndieAuth perhaps?) it would seem redundant to store the image locally for each post.
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GWG It doesn't right now because it only shows it on admin...if it was going to be displayed on the front end.... would have to store it
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jacky ah yes
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jacky my site, ever broken but durable :)
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jacky the job is definitely done
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[dave] broken but durable? hi it's me ur site
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jacky :) lol
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KartikPrabhu broken-but-durable++
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Loqi broken-but-durable has 1 karma over the last year
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aaronpk Fun activity: go find out what public twitter lists you're on
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aaronpk interesting to see how it's changed over time for me. Now I'm wondering if I should be logging and/or republishing this info on my site
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[dave] 0
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[dave] Wait, they moved it... hmm
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[dave] 30
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[dave] Some are incorrect. Some are sad.
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[dave] Mainly "buddies" list made by friend who passed away from cancer. 😕
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[dave] Also "Awesome Authors", "Top Entrepreneurs", "Publishing Pros", and "Minnesotans", all groups I don't consider myself but would like to some day.
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[tw2113] i'm on more than 1 Ruby twitter list, and I don't know why
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[tw2113] probably because I RTed Ruby people looking for work or somthing
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petermolnar I'm on a random old website, that describes a vacation: http://www.eskimo.com/~webguy/china2009/china2009.html It has a calendar that is local to the journey. Is anyone doing anything similar, both representation and batch of events markup wise?
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[KevinMarks] this is an interesting take on why some kinds of tech arguments become so heated https://www.gwern.net/Holy-wars
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[jgmac1106] I am on 305 twitter lists..do you get that on export...not sure I am interested enough to manually pesos that data
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[jgmac1106] and I am a relative nobody on twitter, people with a ton of followers must be on hundreds if not thoousands of lists
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[jgmac1106] a lot of them are one off lists conferences, might be some lessons for community spaces...like in meetable could I submit a feed to a public reader
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[jgmac1106] I also notice I am on an auto generated one called "tweets I fav" I wonder if this is a list of x users who I fav the most over Y time...that could be an interesting tool, take it a degree out to favs of freinds
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[jgmac1106] ...though I don't fav or like anything from my website
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[jgmac1106] !tell chrisaldrich if you folks want to complete today remotely here is the lesson plan: http://tech-4-teens.club/2020/07/07/tech-4-teens-day-one-plans/
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[tantek] petermolnar, I believe the "vacation post" is one of the use-cases that drove the "collection" post type discussions
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[tantek] I think GWG does posts in narrative form sometimes where he documents a trip with various photos
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[tantek] I do like the idea of documenting / exploring more calendar, and more generally time/date-based UIs to collections of posts, and more generally, 2D / more graphical (literally) UIs to collections of posts
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[tantek] E.g. I added a bunch of abstract map examples to /map
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GWG [tantek], petermolnar: I did that on my trip to Israel in 2015...but not with a calendar...I did Berlin in 2018 as a 'series'.
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[tantek] GWG, should we collect collection post design examples like that somewhere?
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GWG [tantek]: For me, it's an archive, not a collection, but yes
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GWG Do we have trip report?
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[tantek] "report" sounds like work
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[tantek] an archive is a type of collection 🙂
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[jgmac1106] I did one with IWC with a map, tried to pin all my pictures in the map but trackbook is deliberately dumb
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GWG [tantek]: How do you differentiate between a collection post and a collection archive then? Because a collection post has specific notes in the wiki
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GWG I also have my archive map view feature
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GWG That shows any archive as a map
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GWG That gives me an idea
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[jgmac1106] collection has specific brainstorming....not really anything in stone
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GWG [jgmac1106]: Yes, but described as a post
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[jgmac1106] I could pin the pics usig the owncloud app I make apps with but too much work
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GWG We should note it could be an archive...which makes it an h-feed
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Loqi definitely
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[KevinMarks] collection implies some kind of editing and maybe sequencing; archive implies comprehensiveness?
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[tantek] archive may imply some property-based commonality (e.g. same published month, same published city/state/country) rather than curated
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GWG That's why I have series...it is more curated.
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GWG I thought about adding location based tagging
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[tantek] wait what do you see as the difference between the location of a post and location based tagging?
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[tantek] is this the where you posted from vs what you posted about distinction?
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[chrisaldrich] I like the subtlety of [KevinMarks]' definition.
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Loqi [chrisaldrich]: [jgmac1106] left you a message 4 hours, 15 minutes ago: if you folks want to complete today remotely here is the lesson plan: http://tech-4-teens.club/2020/07/07/tech-4-teens-day-one-plans/
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[chrisaldrich] I like the fact that if I've tagged posts for conferences that I can go back and digitally re-live them. Example: https://boffosocko.com/tag/indiewebcamp-online/ (content warning: raw meat photo).
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[jgmac1106] was thinking about tat when I look at my lists from aaronpk prompt...so many were one off conference lists....there is something there about wanting to archive around a conference.
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[jgmac1106] of course WP that means add category or tag that part is easy...just don't ask difference between the two
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[chrisaldrich] The benefit of this is that there's no editing involved after the fact. (I'm not sure I'd always want to do the editing work necessary), but it would be nice to have them in reverse chronological order so you could start viewing them in time order instead of reverse time order.
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[jgmac1106] I used to that on WordPress with a pro Elementor account. I copuld choose any combination of post kind,tag, category and make a feed
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[jgmac1106] then that feed could set reverse or chronological, alphabetical, copuple other options I can't remember
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GWG [tantek]: I don't have the ability to generate archives off a location right now
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[chrisaldrich] ^^ would be an awesome location-based feature GWG!
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: It's doable, but it is work
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[jgmac1106] chris no distracting gwg...gonna have him help me to some short lifts to make a WP events plugin IndieWeb friendly
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GWG I get distracted all the time
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[tantek] ^ tshirt (or at least button)
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GWG [tantek]: I only have one torso
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GWG [jgmac1106] is pumping them out for GWGcon, I'm sure
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[chrisaldrich] kevinmarks' recent tweet has reminded us that t-shirts can have sayings on the front AND the back! 😁
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[KevinMarks] the microformats ones have sayings on the back
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[schmarty] very much likes his microformats shirt but could do without the saying on the back 😥
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[jgmac1106] swag already expensive say it on one side or don't say it all
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[jgmac1106] and agree schmarty I couldn't wear that shirt
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[tantek] [schmarty] yeah I've come around to that viewpoint as well.
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[jgmac1106] ..now if it said “You stay classy, IndieWeb”
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[jgmac1106] !tell mblaney could I adapt ihazawebiste into one big shared social reader if everyone had an account and added their blog to the feed?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[chrisaldrich] We've started some planning for a pop-up IWC Session for Gardens & Streams Part II. Please add your interest to the wiki with preferred dates so we can pick something early next week: https://indieweb.org/2020/Pop-up/Sessions#Gardens_.26_Streams_II
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mblaney hi indieweb
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Loqi mblaney: [jgmac1106] left you a message 3 hours, 36 minutes ago: could I adapt ihazawebiste into one big shared social reader if everyone had an account and added their blog to the feed?
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[jgmac1106] Morning Malcolm
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mblaney hey Greg, you could do something similar to https://unicyclic.com/indieweb/directory if you like, which allows you to subscribe to a list of feeds.
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[chrisaldrich] mblaney, that's a great little collection you've got there!
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mblaney thanks [chrisaldrich] I think it started from a list you gave me actually :-)
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[chrisaldrich] mblaney, that might explain one or two edge cases I was surprised you might know or be following. 🙂
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mblaney I didn't want to keep updating it, so I made it work so that following https://unicyclic.com/indieweb would add you to the directory.
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