#indieweb 2020-07-26

2020-07-26 UTC
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[chrisaldrich] Ha! I'm updating some linkrot and apparently I retriggered indienews. At least that's one that's worth rehighlighting from time to time. 🙂
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[chrisaldrich] Interestingly there's a lot of old indienews permalinks that are 404ing from my site. may need to turn off webmentions for a bit to update them all to make sure that doesn't happen again.
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[chrisaldrich] At least I've gone from 400+ dead links on my site to less than 300 this afternoon. Apologies for any annoying resent webmentions. 🙂
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Tekk_ Is there any particular reason for the implies properties for hcards? The wiki entry just says "as part of continued simplification" but it seems like it adds a fair number of edge cases exclusively to save a whole 2 lines of typing.
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aaronpk Tekk_: if you're talking about microformats 1 (hCard), that's been replaced with microformats 2 (h-card), but in either case #microformats is the better channel for that question
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Tekk_ Fair point. Pretty sure I'm looking at the 2 spec
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ndegruchy Hmm, when I reply to an article for [chrisaldrich], his image hcard image is broken. The apparent URL is [object Object] :p
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ndegruchy I'm not trying to objectify him, I swear :D
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "IndieAuth 3.5.0 for WordPress Released" https://david.shanske.com/2020/07/25/indieauth-3-5-0-for-wordpress-released/
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[chrisaldrich] ndegruchy, what specifically are you replying to that you're seeing that?
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[tantek] I want a browser add-on that handles https://slack-redir.net/link? locally instead of giving slack-redir that referer info and making it take extra longer to load
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[tantek] maybe it's just a coincidence but I'm having trouble with both t.co and slack-redir.net
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[tantek] why did people decide it was good to make every link click go through some 3rd party server
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prologic What's the -dev channel called again?
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prologic I wanna see if anyone in the indieweb community wants to work with me on twtxt.net
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prologic I _can_ probably pay a little too
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[tw2113] just #indieweb-dev
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prologic that's what I thought
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prologic I must have typoed it :)
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[chrisaldrich] tantek, your question goes to the very heart of the surveillance capitalism the web is built upon.... if your clicks don't go through a 3rd party server, how can they compile a complete profile of you?
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[chrisaldrich] slack's redirect is sad, because you'd think they could just collect that data directly from their own interface without it....
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[tantek] exactly
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[tantek] tco--
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Loqi tco has -2 karma over the last year
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[chrisaldrich] !tell ndegruchy: I saw your post, I suppose the better question is what method did you use to find my photo to post to your site? That might help to track down the bug since it looks like that page parses like it should.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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sknebel good morning everyone!
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jbove Where I work, all links in emails are being redirect through some Cisco "security" application. Presumably to protect us from malicious links. Perhaps Slack and Twitter would also do some security checks before you end up on the link target.
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
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[KevinMarks] This is great https://whimsical.club/
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GWG Good morning all
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jeremycherfas Hello gwg
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GWG jeremycherfas: Any news?
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GWG I am still getting over yesterday's excitement from the Micropub session
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GWG I got a lot of homework to do
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jeremycherfas I'm still overcoming the disappointment that I don't fully understand how to take advantage of WithKnown's specific implementation of Micropub.
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swentel what's so different with ti?
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swentel *it
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[manton] [jeremycherfas] Speaking of that… I’ve updated Sunlit to support Known’s form-encoded IndieAuth response. It will be in tomorrow’s beta.
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jeremycherfas Well, I'm stuck because you cannot point a photo micropub at a URL outside of Known. At least, I think you can't.
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jeremycherfas Wow. That's good news. I look forward to testing (and maybe looking to see how you did it, in case I can adapt that for my use case. [manton]++
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Loqi [manton] has 21 karma in this channel over the last year (60 in all channels)
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swentel you mean post a url of photo instead of an actual upload?
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jeremycherfas I would like to do that, yes. In order to use the RSS of my Instagram feed to PESOS to Known.
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anotheryou prologic: Hi, just read about twtxt on hn, sounds good :). Do you recon it would be easy to fork? I got a few twitter-like experiments I'd love to run :). It would touch a lot though I fear
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anotheryou 1. only allow links, 2. store a submitters rating with each post, 3. store a custom amplification for each subscription, 4. store "seen" status of posts in my feed, 5. show posts by rating, not chronologically (with some slight decay).
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anotheryou 6. retweets get a new rating by the retweeting user
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anotheryou And another experiment: 1. enable auto-retweeting for all subscriptions, 2. have slight decay for each auto-retweet hop. (you could e.g. set up magazines that subscribe to editors that subscribe to authors). This one is very much an experiment, might get very noisy, but also provide instant viral spread.
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prologic anotheryou sounds like you want to build a Twitter+H? :)
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prologic But sure go fer it :)
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prologic LMK how it goes and of course preserve my name/license/etc all that jazz :)
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