#indieweb 2020-07-27
2020-07-27 UTC
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jeremycherfas Good morning IndieWeb
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# jeremycherfas Morning gwg
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# jeremycherfas Sure. Just updating now from Testflight.
# jeremycherfas BTW, I managed to use micropub to post a photo myself, yesterday.
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[chrisaldrich] I noticed that the creators of https://pressedconf.org/ are doing a non-education(?) centric Twitter Conference focused on WordPress and ClassicPress: https://twitter.com/HeyPresstoConf/status/1287676391065092097
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@HeyPresstoConf So what is Hey Pressto! (http://2020.heypresstoconf.org) #HeyPresstoConf20 ? Well here's some information! https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video_thumb/Ed6-2U7XkAAKZLv.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/1287676391065092097)
# jeremycherfas [manton] going to #knownchat
# [chrisaldrich] Anyone interested in doing an IndieWeb version of an online conference? I think there's enough infrastructure that we could do this using our own sites. And potentially syndicate pieces to Twitter using the PressEdConf model?
# [chrisaldrich] I'm going to let it percolate for a bit, but find me in #indieweb-meta if you're interested...
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# jeremycherfas [manton] in progress for a very long time, but Known has been very slow of late.
# jeremycherfas I'll leave it for now, but my guess it is has timed out, or something.
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# jeremycherfas Auth worked fine, yes.
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[MitchWagner] I’m looking for a tool that will automatically queue posts for micro.blog or other micropub sites. This tool would work similar to the Tumblr queue, or Buffer https://buffer.com or — even better — the Auto Post Scheduler Wordpress plugin https://wordpress.org/plugins/auto-post-scheduler/. The user sets a list of times to update the blog, and when one of the designated times rolls around, the service automatically publishes a post from a
# [MitchWagner] Does anybody know of anything that would work for that?
# [MitchWagner] I particularly like Auto Post scheduler because if the user publishes a post manually, the queue resets to keep things evenly spaced out.
# [MitchWagner] Thanks!
# [chrisaldrich] [MitchWagner] If you've got a WordPress site that already has scheduling support, you should be able to take the tag/cagegory or other RSS feed for that content and pipe it directly into micro.blog. When it posts to your site, micro.blog should pick it up automatically.
# [chrisaldrich] You can speed it up a bit if you're using WebSub too. See here for details: https://help.micro.blog/2017/api-feeds/
# [chrisaldrich] Though, like Tantek, I think that a Micropub client with scheduling would be really cool!
# [chrisaldrich] What is scheduling?
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Loqi scheduling in the context of the indieweb, refers to the feature of setting a specific time for a post to be published in the future https://indieweb.org/scheduling
# [MitchWagner] Thanks, [chrisaldrich]and [tantek]. I’m trying to avoid having two blogs. I do have a wordpress blog with plugin support but the performance is lousy and I’m not having much success troubleshooting the problem (don’t have time to devote to it and I’m operating just beyond the edge of my skill level). Right now I have a micro.blog hosted blog and I’m happy with it overall.
# [chrisaldrich] If I recall correctly the Syndication Links plugin for WordPress also has a set up for syndicating content to micro.blog as well if you wanted to try that out in conjunction with a scheduling plugin.
# [chrisaldrich] What is Syndication Links plugin?
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Syndication Links plugin" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "Syndication Links plugin is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# [chrisaldrich] what is syndication links?
# Loqi Syndication Links is a plugin for WordPress that allow one to easily add rel-syndication/u-syndication links to indicate where syndicated copies are available https://indieweb.org/Syndication_Links
# [chrisaldrich] [MitchWagner] What do you man by lousy performance? Are you talking about how long it takes for micro.blog to pick up the content through your feeds and post it to m.b.?
# [chrisaldrich] s/man/mean
# [MitchWagner] [chrisaldrich] No, in the past I’ve seen outages and other problems on my wordpress.org blog, which is at mitchwagner.com/blog. Could be flakiness regarding plugins, could be my hosting provider or plan is terrible. In November I moved to wordpress.com at a new URL, mitchwagner.blog, and then a couple of months later I moved mitchwagner.blog to micro.blog. (I hope that’s clear.)
# [MitchWagner] However, I just accessed the mitchwagner.com/blog again for the first time in months and it looks fine. Maybe a weekend project to bring it back to life and see if I can troubleshoot it?
# [MitchWagner] [aaronpk] Ah, yes, I’ve seen that. “Futurepub provides an easy way to schedule a post to be published to any Micropub endpoint at a future date and time.” Clearly he is using a definition of the word “easy” that is different from the definition I use. 🙂
# [chrisaldrich] [MitchWagner] interesting that you should mention "weekend project". GWG and I are hosting a WordPress and IndieWeb pop-up session on 8/1: https://events.indieweb.org/2020/08/getting-started-with-wordpress-an-indiewebcamp-pop-up-session-GsrFJw7ltLd2
# [chrisaldrich] wordpress.com should do a reasonable job of keeping things up/moving as a host. try plugging your feed from that into micro.blog and see what you get. (It's roughly what I'm doing at the moment, though I'm self-hosting a .org version).
# [chrisaldrich] Looks like you could use http://mitchwagner.com/type/status/feed/ to get just your status updates to m.b. if you don't want to send all your site's updates.
# [chrisaldrich] If that's the case FuturePub is the only thing I'm aware of... though I wonder if I tinkered with my IFTTT recipe one might be able to use Bufffer or one of those scheduling services to publish to a micropub endpoint? https://boffosocko.com/2020/01/21/using-ifttt-to-syndicate-pesos-content-from-social-services-to-wordpress-using-micropub/
# [chrisaldrich] If Buffer has output feeds from one's account, then you could certainly use my recipe, but it may only be slightly "easier" than what FuturePub is doing.
# [chrisaldrich] Though in [MitchWagner]'s case he'd need to be able to add a token from micro.blog instead of using one from WordPress.
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[KevinMarks] The ux challenge here is what a queue of future posts looks like - would you post them to a private feed and consume them from that? Or use something like airtable or Google sheets to hold them?
# [chrisaldrich] And you'd need to temporarily store the data in the client.... or if a client were able to send a future publish date, a server with the appropriate support could store the received post and just not show it until the future time was reached.
# [chrisaldrich] How did we not discuss this over the weekend?
# [chrisaldrich] Having talked about doing an online conference like PressEdConf earlier today where one might want to schedule a bunch of posts a minute apart at future times, I could totally see using a feature like that...
# [chrisaldrich] [MitchWagner], you have to watch out asking for things in this channel. You just might get more than you bargained for. 😉
# [chrisaldrich] GWG, what would the WordPress Micropub plugin do with a received post with a future date? Would it automatically schedule it for that future date right now, or would it need support built for doing that?
# [MitchWagner] [chrisaldrich] I would be happy to get more than what I bargained for here.
# [MitchWagner] And the scheduling feature that you describe is very similar to what I’m looking for, only instead of a minute apart I would be looking for user configurable intervals. One minute doesn’t seem very useful, but one hour or even one every 48 minutes, with time of evenings and weekends, could be very useful.
# [MitchWagner] [manton] is this something you can see implementing soon? If so then I’ll wait for it, if not then I may well explore other options for hosting.
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# anotheryou prologic: what do you mean with "+H" ?
# prologic anotheryou eh? I dind't say anything?
# anotheryou (you said "sounds like you want to build a Twitter+H? :)", late reply of mine :)) )
# prologic Oh!
# prologic I meant Twitter+Reddit
# anotheryou Ah yes and no
# prologic I was just ccommenting on the feature set you described
# anotheryou no democracy for me
# anotheryou :)
# anotheryou it should all be 1to1, curator to subscriber
# anotheryou no ratings ever democraticed
# prologic fair enough :)
# anotheryou I want to filter-bubble hard and democracy would agree an cute cat pictures even if the individual is smarter :)
# prologic Speaking of which twtxt.net has user avatars today and linkabke posts!
# anotheryou cool!
# anotheryou great pace
# [chrisaldrich] [MitchWagner] the one minute was for a particular use case... and even then I suspect one would post/schedule them one at a time. Building a system to take a queue of posts and automatically post them every x-minutes take some additional work.
# [MitchWagner] [manton] I’ll hang tight then. I’ll clean the yard this weekend instead of updating the blog. My wife will love you for that.
# prologic yeah I'm really looking forward to @mention and #tag parsing and facetting (search)
# prologic and the new upcoming iOS app
# anotheryou I'm ripe for bed, have a good one!
# anotheryou sounds promising :)
# prologic you too!
# anotheryou will do :)
# anotheryou you made me find a bug in what I coded yesterday :)
# anotheryou I wrote a script that marks links as seen and it doesn't seem to work if it has a # in it. I shall investigate another day though :)
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[Murray] Just on the note of scheduling posts to a Micropub endpoint, Integromat could be an interesting automation tool to cobble one together, considering it has mini data store concepts (so it can hold the post until a trigger fetches it back and then continues the recipe). I _think_ that a trigger can be a date/time, so in theory it should work. Just in case anyone wanted to play 😄
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