#indieweb 2020-08-09
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Loqi IndieWeb Examples is a common section of many IndieWeb wiki pages that lists IndieWeb community members (and sometimes others) who have implemented a particular feature or technology, or who actively use it, on their personal site https://indieweb.org/IndieWeb_Examples
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[tantek] commonplace book << tl;dr for an online commonplace book (maybe needs curation / deliberation details) https://twitter.com/brb_irl/status/1292255926150299648
# Loqi ok, I added "tl;dr for an online commonplace book (maybe needs curation / deliberation details) https://twitter.com/brb_irl/status/1292255926150299648" to the "See Also" section of /commonplace_book https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=71973&oldid=71966
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vika_nezrimaya Good morning IndieWeb
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# vika_nezrimaya jacky: Vika's here, I popped out of IRC because I'm using the chat.indieweb.org right now
# vika_nezrimaya I'm too lazy to log in properly since I'm not using Emacs as much as I did now
# vika_nezrimaya Ouch, messages were sent out of order, please flip these two in your brain
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# vika_nezrimaya Question about licensing. Should I use CC-BY or CC-BY-SA (Share-Alike)? What could trigger a Share-Alike clause in an IndieWeb context? (I'm not expecting a fully-qualified law interpretation of the license, but rather non-normative advice)
# vika_nezrimaya For example, if someone replies to my post and includes a citation, should that be Share-Alike or is it considered fair use and exempt? (since AFAIK fair use is exempt from licensing according to most copyright laws)
# vika_nezrimaya I'm pretty sure reposting isn't fair use, so then the license would apply)
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chrisaldrich I'm noticing that a useful side benefit of the way I've set this (https://boffosocko.com/2020/06/30/syndicating-my-indieweb-wiki-edits-to-my-personal-website/) up is that I'm also getting notifications in my website any time anyone edits a page with my name on it as well. This makes up for the fact that I'm not getting emails from the wiki directly anytime someone is editing a page I'm interested in, which has a high overlap with the pages I've
# chrisaldrich edited and added my own examples to.
# chrisaldrich vika_nezrimaya I think that for the majority of uses of (short) reply contexts on websites in replies back and forth with webmention they would fall under the auspices of fair use (at least in the United States) regardless of any explicit licenses.
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# [chrisaldrich] Of course this also pulls out another layer of [schmarty]'s recent Webmention article too... Many (most) of us are adding the idea of microformats parsing onto our webmentions to show contexts and others' replies on our sites without real regard of licensing of content. To a broad extent, we're all relying on the idea of community norms as well as fair use to do this.
# [chrisaldrich] In Marty's framing of the difference in the idea of notifications versus the presentation layer that is added on with microformats, some may presume that showing the content is part of the default definition of what a webmention is when really, it's just the receipt of the notification.
# [chrisaldrich] I'm not aware of anyone doing it, but presumably if one had a properly marked up and restrictive license on one's reply the receiving website could recognize it and either not show the reply visibly on the page or show a smaller excerpt of it along with the link back and a copy of the license.
# [chrisaldrich] what is a license?
# Loqi license is terms under which you are allowed to (re)use a piece of work; in the context of the IndieWeb, for source code such as in open source projects, or content, like the IndieWeb wiki itself which has a specific Copyright https://indieweb.org/license
# [chrisaldrich] I seem to recall that there have been some related camp sessions about this, particularly camps in the EU.
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