#indieweb 2020-08-16

2020-08-16 UTC
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[tw2113] i'm doing good...i'm remembering to update my Pirate chest listing before I remember to update GoodReads πŸ˜„
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[tantek] short domains << how to get a really short domain: https://twitter.com/edent/status/1294629107188273153
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@edent For those who are curious, and don't want to read my whole blog, here's the domain and how it works. https://β…§.fi/ Twitter doesn't make that clickable, but you can copy and paste it into your browser and it take you to my site. So, here's the science bit... (twitter.com/_/status/1294629107188273153)
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Loqi ok, I added "how to get a really short domain: https://twitter.com/edent/status/1294629107188273153" to the "See Also" section of /short-domains https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=72085&oldid=71497
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[tantek] 100 days << Terence Eden has published a blog post for every day of 2020 (200+ days so far!!!) https://twitter.com/edent/status/1294737507666530304
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@edent Just want to thank you all for sharing my blog post, and for all your lovely comments. I'm publishing a new blog post every day this year - and it really cheers me up when my silly ideas spark such a great conversation. Hope you all have a brilliant weekend. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EffU5f8WAAMmbWg.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/1294737507666530304)
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Loqi ok, I added "Terence Eden has published a blog post for every day of 2020 (200+ days so far!!!) https://twitter.com/edent/status/1294737507666530304" to the "See Also" section of /100_days https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=72086&oldid=71321
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[tantek] short domains << ^ blog post about: https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2020/08/buying-a-single-character-domain-and-3-character-fqdn-for-15/
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Loqi ok, I added "^ blog post about: https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2020/08/buying-a-single-character-domain-and-3-character-fqdn-for-15/" to the "See Also" section of /short-domains https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=72087&oldid=72085
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searchableguy[m] oh people are actually alive here
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searchableguy[m] lol
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[KevinMarks] It's a clever trick, but isn't it more bytes?
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[tantek] Which is why he says characters
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[tantek] And yes it’s more bytes than say ttk.me :)
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[tantek] I also thought the lack of auto linking was an interesting aspect, in case that was a deliberately desired effect
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g1 Hello
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g1 I've just read the "Getting started" section, the paragraph about "Home server" seems to contain plain wrong information.
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g1 "Using your own server at home costs more" is wrong to me, a low energy server may last a decade if carefully chosen, it costs a lot less than any web hosting without ads
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g1 "and takes more time to set up" is partially wrong. You should look at Yunohost
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g1 Moreover, most elements mentioned in "Avoiding problems" still occur when not hosting your content in your own server at home
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g1 "Content loss" is still possible when you're not your own host
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g1 "Site loss", "Censorship", "Content theft" too
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g1 The worst thing that can still happen in self-hosting is the loss of the domain name
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g1 Not the worst but a bad thing
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g1 Bye
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GWG g1: Why bye?
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GWG Cost is not always financial. It costs more in time... although a VPS is probably the same
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GWG But there is nothing listed as wrong with it, just it is an advanced option for most
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jacky that said, differentiating the cost factor is something that should be highlighted
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jacky like if money's not a problem, then cost looks like spending time
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GWG jacky: Sometimes it costs less if you are already paying for home internet.. so it depends
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GWG Home Internet also is more likely to go down. Although mine is usually rock solid.
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jacky Home internet prices have _never_ gone down for me :/
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JK_na for what its worth, I've recently moved all of my self-hosted sites, some social media, some chat, some html etc. from VPS to various ARM SBCs and whilst there is certainly an upfront cost and a timesink to get set up it will be more cost efficient (for me) over time (very little, but then digital ocean aren't the cheapest VPS provider) and administering the sites now that they are set up will be the same as previously. But
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JK_na then I guess this will vary based on varying bandwidth provision from various providers.. mileage will vary I guess.
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JK_na (some indieweb-ish (work in progress!), just incase you were wondering why I'd butt in 😜)
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cjw6k i have my multimedia-content servers (incl. blog) in the cloud to leverage the low latency and high-bandwidth possibilities of the datacenter. I have my free software source code hosted on my homeserver (gitea) because that is the lowest latency for the primary user. in both cases, I am the server admin. different tools for different jobs.
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GWG jacky: I meant uptime not cost
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jacky uptime has a cost
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jacky multiple forms of cost, actually
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