#indieweb 2020-08-17

2020-08-17 UTC
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GWG
So, I started out trying to update my user page, didn't finish that, but changed my URL shortener to better work with the prefixes used by Whistle.
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GWG
Which I seriously doubt anyone will notice
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GWG
wonders if anyone even knows he has a URL shortener.
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[tb]
Mmm finally switched my domain email over to ProtonMail and set all my gmail accounts to forward to it
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[tb]
Not sure still how I'm going to get away from GCal though until at least ProtonCalendar comes out of beta and supports invites/shares
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[kodepoeten]
Hi everyone 👋. Before summer I gave a talk at NDC Oslo, on ethics in software development and I think it could be worth sharing here.
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[kodepoeten]
The talk gives an introduction to common narratives on ethics, value, taxes and technology. And I also give a shout-out to the IndieWeb community.
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[kodepoeten]
TLDR: The tools we choose to use matter a lot. 🙂
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[chrisaldrich]
What are ethics?
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[chrisaldrich]
[kodepoeten]++ nice post. Bookmarked the talk for later tonight and some of the references I haven't read yet. We should be talking about these topics more often.
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Loqi
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "ethics" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "ethics is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[chrisaldrich]
I've been reading an advanced copy of David Dylan Thomas' upcoming book Design for Cognitive Bias (A Book Apart, 2020). https://abookapart.com/products/design-for-cognitive-bias
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[chrisaldrich]
So far it's got a solid overview of a lot of psychological research from behavioral economics and discussion of biases that developers and designers should be aware of with examples of how to make things better for (ourselves) and users of our software.
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[chrisaldrich]
I bought tickets over the weekend for the online book launch party on August 28th if others are interested: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/design-for-cognitive-bias-launch-party-tickets-116127463369 . The $10 ticket includes a copy of the e-book which is otherwise $14 / paperback $24.
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[Morgan_F]
Hi everyone! I just want to introduce myself. I can across a mention of y'all today, and I thought the movement fascinating: without even realizing it, I've been an indieweb guy for 20 years. I hadn't put my finger on the movement or the societal shift away from the "old web" towards the new social media one (other than usual complaints everyone makes) but I'm happy to discover a community keeping the old spirit alive. And as an old-school guy
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[Morgan_F]
who just created & creates lots of web pages on lots of topics out of fun and passion (and I can't stop myself!) I just wanted to meet everyone 🙂
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[chrisaldrich]
👋 [Morgan_F] What's your website?
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[Morgan_F]
Oh, I've created maaaaany 🙂 Two that may interest you are one site where, well, I'm a bit obsessed with where words come from, and I just write about English words that have (surprising) common ancestors with Spanish words, so it's an easy way to remember words in the other language: spanishetymology.com - that's a good example of just a random, fun, [non-financial-incentive] site I made & run out of obsession and passion. I have an old-school
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[Morgan_F]
website [I did a modern update to the design a couple of years ago] that just lists different websites I've made for fun over the years, and more, so you may find it interesting, too: westegg.com
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[Morgan_F]
*old school personal website. [I forgot the word "personal"]
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[chrisaldrich]
[Morgan_F] I like the timeline design and layout of westegg. very cool.
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[Morgan_F]
↩️ Thank you! It was the best idea I had for a
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[Morgan_F]
creative way to present my projects. An old-school HTML list is a bit to.... old-school :)
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skippy1
i've been happily using Monocle and Aperture and Granary for some time. About 5 days ago, it seems like I stopped gettting Tweets in my feed. Indeed, if I viist a Granary URL from Aperture, it returns 404. BUT that URL is for a Twitter list; and if I change the list name to all lowercase it works!
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skippy1
The URL stored in Aperture has the first letter capitalized.
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skippy1
I've tried removing the feeds from Aperture, and re-adding them with lowercase list names; but they keep getting saved with capitalization. :frown:
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aaronpk
ooh, i bet it's looking up an existing URL case insensitively
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skippy1
anything I can do to help, @aaronpk ?
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jacky
(cough) send a PR (cough)
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aaronpk
well we could try to confirm this is the problem. i did think that aperture removed all traces of a feed if nobody is subscribed to it tho.
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aaronpk
could you add something to the query string that granary will ignore so that it looks like a completely different URL to aperture? if that fixes it then my suspicion is correct
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jacky
like a ?
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aaronpk
yea whatever
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skippy1
confirmed. added "&false=false". Aperture saves it with the lowercase list name, and the junk I added.
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skippy1
although what's really weird is that this was all working until recently. So the "problem" such as it is lies really with Twitter or Granary: the upper-case list names worked before.
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skippy1
s/uppercase/capitalized/
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[snarfed]
granary’s twitter list handling definitely hasn’t changed any time remotely recently
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skippy1
gremlins.
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[snarfed]
specifically, granary doesn’t touch the list’s case, it passes it through to the twitter API as is
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aaronpk
I don't go into the twitter app very often but I just noticed they started showing counts and links to quote tweets
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aaronpk
retweets, likes, quotes