#indieweb 2020-09-28

2020-09-28 UTC
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[tantek] Wow: https://twitter.com/dannyjhall/status/1310231730591346689
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@dannyjhall A @Facebook employee has stolen my @instagram account. Thread! (RTs appreciated) https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ei7g0DLXkAEuzIf.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/1310231730591346689)
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[chrisaldrich] timotimo to my knowledge, I've only got one "Owning my live streaming" post and the fact that there's a video there should be an indication that the whole thing worked out. Sorry you missed it live and got stuck with the time shifted version instead.
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timotimo is there any info on how you did it etc? i assume you used some kind of pre-existing wordpress plugin maybe?
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[chrisaldrich] I think I may have posted some of the details privately on my own site?
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[chrisaldrich] What is Hapity?
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Loqi Hapity is an IndieWeb compatible live streaming service for allowing people to more easily create live streams from their websites https://indieweb.org/Hapity
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[chrisaldrich] But I did document some of the pieces there ^^ timotimo
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[chrisaldrich] Apparently I did describe it, in the very next post after the one you mentioned. And it was apparently a livestream itself.... 🙂
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Adding Webmentions to Jekyll" https://jamesg.blog/2020/09/28/adding-webmentions-to-jekyll.html
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beko o/ jeremycherfas
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jeremycherfas \o beko
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[jgmac1106] Chris hope the WP session went well. Had a kids bday party....first one since Feb...so it took precedent congrats to you and gwg
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beko jeremycherfas: sent you a query
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godamwale https://godamwale.com/
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godamwale https://godamwale.com/blog/threepl/threepl-service
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[tantek] This seems like a pretty big deal that folks here would care about (especially if you're a Craft and/or WordPress user or considering either) https://adrianroselli.com/2020/09/gutenberg-accessibility-costs-wordpress-the-w3c-work.html
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[chrisaldrich] What are analytics?
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Loqi analytics is the collection, analysis and reporting of a websites traffic https://indieweb.org/analytics
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[chrisaldrich] analytics << https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2020/indexing-my-blogs-links/ describing intern analytics of one's site
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Loqi ok, I added "https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2020/indexing-my-blogs-links/ describing intern analytics of one's site" to the "See Also" section of /website-analytics https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=72856&oldid=71615
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[Murray] As a Craft user I had no idea that W3C had moved to using it, but I'm excited they have :thumbsup: Good article, thanks for sharing 🙂
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[chrisaldrich] What is Craft?
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Loqi Craft is a commercial PHP/MySQL CMS, with hosted and self-hosted options https://indieweb.org/Craft
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[chrisaldrich] [Murray] you should add your example
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[Murray] good point 😅
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[michael_lewis] [Murray] I've finally implemented your suggestion for a fairer Random Page. Instead of simply picking a random page from all the pages, I now first pick a random domain from all the domains, and then pick a random page from that domain. Based on current numbers (446 domains and 22,829 pages), that means everyone now has a 1 in 446 chance of their site coming up, whereas previously someone with a 10 page site would have had a 1 in 2,282
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[michael_lewis] chance and someone with a 500 page site would have had a 1 in 46 chance.
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drsprite I have a problem trying to add a webmention - it says no link found, but it is there when using the php.microformats.io. Anything I can check?
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drsprite Example: https://webmention.io/belchertownweather.com/webmention/loONLjJmisEWcZTNPFyK
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aaronpk i don't see the link when i look at the parsed page in php.microformats.io
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drsprite strange, i do
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aaronpk https://php.microformats.io/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fobrienlabs.net%2Fbelchertownweather-com-website-theme-for-weewx%2F
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drsprite under noopener and noreferrer sections
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aaronpk oh it's not going to look there
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drsprite ah, where's it look?
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aaronpk technically webmention.io is being more strict than usual here
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aaronpk it found an h-entry so it expects it to be in there
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drsprite ah ha, i just added the h-entry
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aaronpk if there was no h-entry, then it would have worked
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drsprite yeah, it worked earlier, and then i added h-entry and it broke
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drsprite so that explains that
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drsprite do you have a link on a proper h-entry format?
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aaronpk what is h-entry?
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Loqi h-entry is the microformats2 vocabulary for marking up blog posts on web sites https://indieweb.org/h-entry
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aaronpk that's a start, but also
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drsprite sweet, thanks for the explanation
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aaronpk what is an article?
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Loqi An article is a kind of post that typically has more structure than a simple note. Articles usually have a name (title), multiple paragraphs, and often subheadings, blockquotes, embedded images, and a footer of references or citations https://indieweb.org/article
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drsprite perfect i'll check those out
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drsprite thanks!
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drsprite Is there a cache on webmention.io? I've updated the h-entry and I see the URL in h-content, but still says URL not found in content
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aaronpk check the microformats, it's a bit wrong still
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drsprite damn thought i had it
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aaronpk try to match the example here https://indieweb.org/article
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drsprite Yeah thats what i was trying to do
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drsprite oh, it's e-content, not h-content... oops
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drsprite now it's a success
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[tantek] Would this be any better if you redirected all the video and streamed from your own server instead of using Amazon? https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/24/technology/amazon-ring-drone.html
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aaronpk depends on how they handle mapping out the house, and whether you care that might be stored on amazon too
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aaronpk but definitely keeping the video within your own network would be a huge improvement
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aaronpk that's the reason i only use cameras that stay on my local network. none of this recording to google's cloud nonsense
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[tantek] :thumbsup::skin-tone-2:
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aaronpk i think it's funny that roombas have been mapping out houses since before cloud-connected in-home devices were "normal", and yet somehow it's now seen as a stretch to make a device that does that sort of thing and *doesn't* send all the data to the cloud
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[schmarty] It's become the default way of thinking for product design. The vendor lock-in is strong!
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vilhalmer any data you don't collect is just profit you can't invent later!
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