#indieweb 2020-09-29

2020-09-29 UTC
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drsprite aaron, another question - this isn't a site i own but it mentions my site with a link. When I try to use the microformats, it says the link isn't there. https://picatfeeder.wordpress.com/2015/10/27/4g-lte-solar-powered-raspberry-pi-time-lapse-camera/
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drsprite and the output of the test is here https://webmention.io/obrienlabs.net/webmention/DmFhb2NH37oiCBTAsUov
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drsprite it's not my site, so i can't control anything - but curious why it doesn't find the link
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aaronpk same thing there. webmention.io sees microformats there, then only looks inside the parsed content instead of looking at the whole page
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drsprite ah shit i didn't even see the h-entry at the top
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drsprite bummer i lose that pingback
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jacky vilhalmer: lol the truth
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fLaMEd good evening
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Ruxton hio!
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Ruxton allow me to introduce, Universal Greeting Time - https://indieweb.org/Universal_Greeting_Time :P
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[Murray] [michael_lewis]++ nice :thumbsup:
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Loqi [michael_lewis] has 2 karma over the last year
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[James_Gallaghe] Ah, it’s been a while since I have seen that one.
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[James_Gallaghe] Good morning, IndieWeb!
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fLaMEd so, the indieweb movement I understand is all about owning your own content, which I love. but what bits do I not need if I'm not silo'd social media?
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[James_Gallaghe] You can implement whatever parts of the IndieWeb you like.
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[James_Gallaghe] If you care about liking other people’s websites, you can read up on the wiki about likes and how to send one with webmentions. Or, if you just want to share your content, you can write a blog post, publish it to your site, and mark it up using the h-entry microformat.
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[James_Gallaghe] You can ask Loqi, the friendly bot, for more help.
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[James_Gallaghe] What is h-entry?
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Loqi h-entry is the microformats2 vocabulary for marking up blog posts on web sites https://indieweb.org/h-entry
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[James_Gallaghe] What are likes?
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Loqi likes are sometimes part of the information about a post displayed on the post itself, often in a post footer, like a total number like responses, icons of recent likers, or even a datetime ordered list of likes https://indieweb.org/likes
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Why I IndieWeb" https://jamesg.blog/2020/09/29/why-i-indieweb.html
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drsprite Is anyone aware of a fork of the webpage-micropub-to-github micropub server that can write to local markdown files instead of GitHub?
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drsprite or, a micropub server that can run in docker and write local markdown files?
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Zegnat Hmm...
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Zegnat What is Morris?
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Loqi Morris is a self-hosted PHP service for storing Webmentions from webmention.io in a JSON format that static sites can use to render them without querying webmention.io on each build https://indieweb.org/Morris
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Zegnat Maybe?
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drsprite hmm
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Zegnat Not to Markdown, but maybe easy enough to tweak
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Zegnat I do not know anything offhand that writes to Markdown
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drsprite yeah, it could work potentially
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drsprite i'm ok with json
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drsprite just need to figure out how to convert it to micropub
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Zegnat Oh, woops Morris is just webmentions right, my mistake
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drsprite this is actually pretty cool though, my self hosted jekyll site is making a ton of calls to webmention.io - this would speed things up
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Zegnat What is nanopub?
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Loqi nanopub is a micropub-endpoint for use with Hugo (but should work with any static site generator) written by Daniel Goldsmith https://indieweb.org/nanopub
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Zegnat I think that was what I was actually thinking off!
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drsprite ah cool, i'll check that out as well
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drsprite thanks!
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drsprite couple of projects to tinker with after coffee :)
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[schmarty] skippy's micropub is also good https://github.com/skpy/micropub/
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drsprite cool i'll check it out
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drsprite I'm still working on trying to figure out a jekyll template for Morris
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[schmarty] drsprite: would love to see a post about your Morris template if you write one up! i tried to make the docs here as clear as possible https://github.com/martymcguire/Morris#using-the-stored-mentions-with-your-static-site-generator
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Loqi [martymcguire] morris: PHP webhook for caching webmention.io webmentions for static sites.
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[schmarty] but i was trying to generalize from my one and only personal site so i don't know how well the instructions work for others
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drsprite schmarty: yeah I'm pretty stuck on it. I'll keep tinkering but am stuck parsing the index.json so far
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drsprite Makes me wonder if I should move to Hugo ;)
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[chrisaldrich] Should we bias the results? 😉 https://twitter.com/WesleyCabus/status/1310890558676758528
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@WesleyCabus Is anyone out there using microformats in their HTML? (twitter.com/_/status/1310890558676758528)
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[snarfed] i mean, he did ask
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[Murray] I may have been the first pro-mf vote 😄
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sknebel oh thats a poll
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aaronpk i really need to add that to the Loqi preview heh
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[Murray] yeah I actually clicked on it just to see if there had been any discussion and was surprised by it being a poll, so figured "why not?"
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DigDug hi
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[snarfed] aaronpk you can’t afaik, polls aren’t in the (old) twitter APIs, right?
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aaronpk oh :(
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[tantek] Lots in here for us to unpack about "free" website hosting and document transparently on those options (maybe even include strong discouragments, e.g. the free Disqus is a hard no based on this analysis) https://themarkup.org/blacklight/2020/09/22/blacklight-tracking-advertisers-digital-privacy-sensitive-websites
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[tantek] Disqus << Criticism: Avoid any free use of Disqus as it comes with tons of 3rdparty adtech trackers that surveil you and reveal demographic information to advertisers or the public internet through breaches: https://themarkup.org/blacklight/2020/09/22/blacklight-tracking-advertisers-digital-privacy-sensitive-websites
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Loqi ok, I added "Criticism: Avoid any free use of Disqus as it comes with tons of 3rdparty adtech trackers that surveil you and reveal demographic information to advertisers or the public internet through breaches: https://themarkup.org/blacklight/2020/09/22/blacklight-tracking-advertisers-digital-privacy-sensitive-websites" to the "See Also" section of /Disqus https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=72877&oldid=67411
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[tantek] Twitter is inching its way to supporting events. Note the "Set reminder" button on this tweet! https://twitter.com/TwitterMoments/status/1310972607445909506
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@TwitterMoments No TV? 📺 No problem. 💙 You can catch the first US presidential debate here starting at 9 pm ET. Tap “set reminder” and we’ll let you know when it’s live. https://twitter.com/i/events/1308791012735684613 (twitter.com/_/status/1310972607445909506)
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[chrisaldrich] I'm guessing it's something to do with a CSS-based counter, but https://www.pinknews.co.uk/ has a clever little hack such that when you highlight across multiple paragraphs it gives each paragraph a different color for a rainbow effect. (Better than the garish bright yellow the Guardian provides...)
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lexly interesting article [tantek]++ thanks!
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