#indieweb 2020-10-05
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Reading Content with RSS" https://jamesg.blog/2020/10/05/reading-content-with-rss
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[jgmac1106] "Instead of lecturing people about how they should really be blogging instead of tweetstorming" love that line though I drop the storm reference and like saying threads
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petermolnar I have multiple problems with tweetstorms, but nearly all of them is a representation issue: it's infuriating trying to follow with the current twitter interface and whoever wants me to do so is a bad person, and doesn't think about their audience.
# petermolnar unless they provide a readable alternative.
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# [jgmac1106] anyone that publishes threads probably uses tweetdeck which is better suited for threading, I never check regular twitter unless it is the mobile website
# [jgmac1106] (because twitter never replaced the mobile tweetedeck version when they bought it). I do add the Better tweetdeck Firefox extension
# [jgmac1106] A blog post to me is something I plan, I probably with headings, a lede, an overarching story arch, a thread of notes is just that, random thoughts thrown to the wind, sometimes they become blog posts but a blog post would never become a thread of notes
# [jgmac1106] so when people say, "Why didn't you just blog that" the answer is basically , "I can't." Whatever thoughts I just threw down simply did not exist until the thread, its thinking outloud in all its messiness not sure any readable alternative exists
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# petermolnar I genuinely struggle to fail to see the difference of writing a tweetstorm vs using paragraphs in a text file with the strict rule of no backwards editing.
# petermolnar eh
# petermolnar *struggle to see
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# petermolnar I do see how it could be one of those limitations that could help art / "The Enemy of Art Is the Absence of Limitations", Orson Welles / to happen, but it's just not a nice way of posting from a reader perspective.
# petermolnar basically if the format is unfit for the medium - whereas for twitter, the medium is twitter.com, one can't require people to use another service to read it - then why force it?
# petermolnar either alter the medium or the format.
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# [jgmac1106] its more than just engagement, we are smarter together, I may have1,000s of followers but really only engage with 20-30. and maybe the performative nature, no it does, influence the genre. like doing improv comedy rather than a set
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mayakate[m] I think there are lots of different kinds of readers with lots of different perspectives. Off the top of my head: it's interesting to be able to thread off from a main thread with a digression (https://everythingstudies.com/2020/09/24/notes-on-notes/), it creates an easy way for readers to engage with particular chunks, there are social norms about "hold off on commenting about an error in tweet 2 until you get to the
# mayakate[m] bottom to see if they've addressed it" due to rolling publication, you get feedback about which particular details resonated with people since it's common to fave particular tweets in a thread... If it's not for you, it's not for you, but I think it's more interesting to consider what the non-siloed version of a tweet thread would be that *doesn't* resemble a blogpost.
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jeremycherfas Many people I follow clearly think long and hard about their threads and are very content to do it that way. Their's are not random scraps of thought. Nothing I say will persuade them to do otherwise.
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[tantek] Irony of posting this here obv: https://twitter.com/SlackStatus/status/1313141953735745536
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@SlackStatus Some users may be unable to connect to Slack, while others are seeing general performance issues. Our team continues to investigate and we will keep you posted as we know more. https://status.slack.com/2020-10/e8c094cc99aabf64 (twitter.com/_/status/1313141953735745536)
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# [tantek] Slack << Outage 2020-10-05 https://twitter.com/SlackStatus/status/1313141953735745536
# @SlackStatus Some users may be unable to connect to Slack, while others are seeing general performance issues. Our team continues to investigate and we will keep you posted as we know more. https://status.slack.com/2020-10/e8c094cc99aabf64 (twitter.com/_/status/1313141953735745536)
# Loqi ok, I added "Outage 2020-10-05 https://twitter.com/SlackStatus/status/1313141953735745536" to the "See Also" section of /Slack https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=72940&oldid=70388
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# [Emma_Humphries] I joked about creating an editor that looks like the "new tweet" interface.
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