#indieweb 2020-11-27

2020-11-27 UTC
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[tw2113_Slack_]
[KevinMarks] have you checked out GitHub Pages yet?
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[tw2113_Slack_]
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petermolnar
that article [tantek] added to Pinterest recently - https://find.yourweirdos.com/posts/the-quiet-giant - raises some really interesting questions, mainly the: "As it turns out, there are a whole lot of weirdos out there in search of inspiration, and of self-expression through collecting" quote. When I started doing a website in ~99, it was a collection of stuff I found interesting at the time. From an indieweb perspective, this is rath
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petermolnar
er out of focus for our usual goals/approach/etc, but it made me think that what if our primary directive should emphasie self-expression more, than anything with data, or privacy.
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petermolnar
(yes, this is a topic that's both for this channel and for indieweb-meta)
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sknebel
not sure it's really out of focus.
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sknebel
well, I guess us who talk about it more talked about private archives than public recently
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sknebel
(i.e. I go back and forth on posting bookmarks or not)
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[jgmac1106]
I collect quotes: https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/tag/quote and bookmarks but started a wiki because it didn't fit a stream building collections and stuff, more organized weirdness
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[jgmac1106]
said from the get go there are two steps to IndieWeb. Get a blog. Bring a passion
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[jgmac1106]
"primary directive should emphasie self-expression more" is my primary goal
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jeremycherfas
An emphasis on self-expression requires tools that allow you to do that, and as a silo, Pinterest is great at that. As was Tumblr.
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petermolnar
> Get a blog - this is one of the problems: self-expression has nothing to do with blogs.
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petermolnar
correction:
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petermolnar
a site/place/etc to self-express, or to show interest, doesn't have to be a blog in terms of web-log.
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petermolnar
Zegnat's h-card monster is a good example.
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jeremycherfas
I agree. And the "reverse chronological" part of the original idea of a web log isn't a requirement either.
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[Raphael_Luckom]
As someone who is totally out of the loop: why do people talk about tumblr in the past tense? It seems to still be allowing signups, has something about it changed?
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[jgmac1106]
I know I am using word blog as a catch all for "quickly add content to my site". The kids I work with don't care about chronology, it is chronological bc it is. To them it is just content
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[jgmac1106]
tumblr is still all the rage, it just is a good estimate of someone's age and/or participation in niche stan communities,
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[jgmac1106]
Came across this poem "Unfold your own myth" as a good definition of IndieWeb a stanza: https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2020/11/27/but-dont-be-satisfied-with-stories-how
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Loqi
[Greg McVerry] "But don’t be satisfied with stories, how things have gone with others. Unfold your own myth, without complicated explanation, so everyone will understand the passage, We have opened you." -Rumi #quotes
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petermolnar
[Raphael_Luckom]: who's talking about tumblr in past tense? Though the reason could be that since it was sold to Automattic, there isn't much of a word about it.
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[Raphael_Luckom]
jeremycherfas, above: "As was Tumblr"
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[jgmac1106]
to me it Tumblr still has one of the best social publishing tools, though reshares as content get tiresome
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[Raphael_Luckom]
I like that quote. Rumi can always be counted on for a banger.
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jeremycherfas
It is in the past tense for me because I have been totally unable to recover my account, despite jumping through endless hoops. Therefore, I have no idea what it is like now.
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[jgmac1106]
Full poem: https://www.stillnessspeaks.com/unfolding-your-own-myth-ibrahims-epiphany-rumi/ This is really my first deep dive, but that is more the chat channel. I just love when you find quotes about the web from the 1200s
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[tantek]
wow that is hardcore. not even progressive enhancement! 😂 (so therefore I don't qualify)
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[tantek]
JS << Countermovement: https://nojs.club/
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[tantek]
loving the conversation here about "self-expression" (not "just" blogs) as an insight into some bits of that Pinterest weirdos article
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[tantek]
taking the noJS thing to #indieweb-dev
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