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#[Raphael_Luckom]There seems to be more text on the "Why Indieweb" page ( https://indieweb.org/why ) about what's _wrong_ with corporate web stuff than what's awesome about the indieweb.
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#petermolnar[Raphael_Luckom]++ - that a really good point
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#[tantek][Raphael_Luckom] hah! that's because it *started* with what's _wrong_ with corporate web stuff
#[tantek]there's also a balance here, people seeking to have their frustrations validated (and then listening to options), vs people just reading a pure sales pitch and thinking meh my status quo is ok for me
#petermolnarWhy is this meta? IMO this is on topic, even more so, than our usual ones.
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#[chrisaldrich][Raphael_Luckom] I noticed you had some pottery and sewing interests... are you putting any of them on your own website? We could use some additional examples.
#LoqiCrafts or crafting is a range of common hobbies about which some IndieWeb sites focus some of their content https://indieweb.org/crafts
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#[Raphael_Luckom]I do, but so far they are just a couple of posts...still working on a category for them that will have a natural landing page
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#[jgmac1106][chrisaldrich] I need to put in metadata but I work with some glass blowers on their sites: http://kevo.glass/ was on Known but got too hard to manage for me to coach him on running it
#[jgmac1106]but if you take money for a craft does it no longer fit that page?
#[jgmac1106]his mom also stopped her farm store and we were bartering web design for food (wanting to take money ain't same as getting it)
#[Raphael_Luckom]I'd hope that small-scale selling would still fit on a craft page, otherwise you only get people who don't need the money
#[jgmac1106]and getting out of instapinesty hell awesome for any crafter
#[jgmac1106]can't lie thats what my friend did, just went back to instagram for the social selling (and took a full time job)
#[Raphael_Luckom]yeah, exactly. Someone with a crafting website had to get good at their craft _and_ build a website about it. At that level it would be weird not to also be at a level where you sell stuff at least occasionally
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#[chrisaldrich]I think that category could be either hobbyists as well as those who are professional or even semi-professional.
#[chrisaldrich]Professional crafters can often have some more resources for web development and provide examples of their art online that could be useful for the hobbyists (and vice-versa). The key is having some useful indie examples all around.
#[chrisaldrich]I think it may have been fluffy that had some examples and research into doing art and having a small personal store for selling some of it?
#LoqiIndieWeb for business is the use of an indieweb site or section thereof for business purposes, to post professional products or services, announcements, reminders, and generally interact with business clients, instead of social media silo posts and pages https://indieweb.org/IndieWeb_for_business
#[chrisaldrich]and there's always that ^^ if you're into the deep end for selling...
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#[tantek]petermolnar, yeah it's borderline. the "purpose" or "scope" of the /why page is fairly #indieweb-meta even if the content that we expect to put there is more on topic for here
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