#indieweb 2020-11-29

2020-11-29 UTC
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tantek++
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Loqi
tantek has 22 karma in this channel over the last year (81 in all channels)
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[snarfed]
bridgy’s new instagram account for scraping got locked. looks like IG backfeed may be slowly dying.
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alex11
shocked fucking pikachu face
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petermolnar
I'd like to put "self-expression" as a top level point under the "Why Indie Web" on /why
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petermolnar
the question is: sould it extend and/or replace Freedom (probably not) or get it's own point?
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[suze_shardlow1]
Haha
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petermolnar
[suze_shardlow1]++
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Loqi
[suze_shardlow1] has 1 karma over the last year
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[jgmac1106]
petermolnar its like everything we were talking about yesterday
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[tantek]
that needs to go somewhere on the wiki where have a broad array of choices from CMS to DIY
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[Raphael_Luckom]
I don't get it.
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[Raphael_Luckom]
Also "that guy who never stopped using tumblr" is another example of tumblr being past tense like I asked about yesterday. Because it's notable to "still" be using it (everyone else presumably has moved on?)
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[Raphael_Luckom]
If one of my work friends sent that to me on whatsapp, my reaction would be "lol true." If I was a new person who didn't know what any of those technologies were, my reaction would be like, "wow, I'm going to get _judged_"
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[tantek]
included here which seemed like an appropriate place for the humor, linking to original of course: https://indieweb.org/content_management_system#To_CMS_or_not_to_CMS.3F
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[tantek]
also can we talk about the very IndieWeb-esque practice in that comic of signing your artwork with your domain name so that when the image file is shared out of context, there's still a chance that the viewer can find your original?
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[tantek]
any artists here care to comment? Note the absence of the artist's name except as part of their domain
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[tantek]
related: has anyone seen any examples of a personal domain name watermark in an image?
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[tantek]
I feel these are good IndieWeb practices we should document, which of course first requires asking for examples (like direct links to examples, not "hey go search over here I heard there might be some lol" 🙂 )
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[tantek]
also, their site is too much of a rabbithole for me to not explicitly link to it here: https://rakhim.org/
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petermolnar
all my images are watermarked and they have artist metadata, even the thumbnails
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petermolnar
(thus all the fantastic "optimizitation" tools are telling me to strip that because it could save KBs of data!)
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[Raphael_Luckom]
hehe
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petermolnar
yes, sorry, watermarked with my domain
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[Raphael_Luckom]
kbs, you say?
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petermolnar
well, exif + iptc + xml are in the range of 10-20KB per image
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petermolnar
regardless of image (bytes) size
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petermolnar
I've used the domain watermarking for a long while now, let me check
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petermolnar
at least since 2011.
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[tantek]
amazing
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[tantek]
well that's enough to start a page
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[tantek]
what is a watermark
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "watermark" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "watermark is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek]
petermolnar, care to do the honors?
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petermolnar
watermark is usually a piece of information - such as text, domain, signature, name, etc - that is overlayed on images, commonly with transparency for two purposes: stealing protection and tracebility.
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petermolnar
theft not stealing
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[chrisaldrich]
I had hoped that gapingvoid used their url, but turns out it's a social media "handle" instead, though if one adds a .com, it does resolve to the related site. https://www.gapingvoidart.com/gallery/information-knowledge/
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[chrisaldrich]
My friend Matt Dujnic has used his url in comics for quite a while...
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[chrisaldrich]
watermark << Example of a URL in a comic as a watermark https://www.crunchnoisy.com/
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Loqi
ok, I added "Example of a URL in a comic as a watermark https://www.crunchnoisy.com/" to a new "See Also" section of /watermark https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=73772&oldid=73771
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petermolnar
2010, apparently; I checked my archives.
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[chrisaldrich]
Rakhim's about page also has a list of his Patrons which I don't think I've seen on a personal site before. Like a blogroll (Rakhim doesn't link to their websites), but for supporters.
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[chrisaldrich]
I thought maybe [jeremycherfas] had done this with Eat This Podcast, but I'm not seeing it presently.
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[chrisaldrich]
What is support?
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Loqi
support is related to all things regarding issues reported to a site or silo, like when you report abuse, and receive a response in a support inbox https://indieweb.org/support
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[chrisaldrich]
What is a pledge?
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Loqi
pledge is a recurring donation https://indieweb.org/pledge
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jeremycherfas
I used to, when I used Patreon far more, but I have been trying to get away. Maybe I should poll supporters to see what kind of recognition they would like.
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[chrisaldrich]
Stumbled across Stencil as a graphics creation tool https://getstencil.com/ (targeted towards creating images for social media?) and sort of wish there were a version of this that worked as a micropub client.
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alex11
i can't even draw in real life, forget about on a computer screen :P
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[chrisaldrich]
Most of this tool is preformatted images and text layout stuff that makes one feel talented from a design perspective. It's got lots of preset sizes for websites and social media platforms.
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[jgmac1106]
so like canva?
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[chrisaldrich]
[jgmac1106], yes, much like https://www.canva.com/ which may be better known in that space. I'm curious if others have useful simple tools like this. (Bonus points if they're IndieWeb friendly.)
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[chrisaldrich]
I like some of the simplicity and flexibility of Dave Winer's http://littlecardeditor.com/ and http://pngwriter.com/ for things like these.