#indieweb 2021-01-21
2021-01-21 UTC
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jacky Twitter/BlueSky has their 'decentralized social media' review up: https://t.co/U5DczWX1qb?amp=1
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[cleverdevil] It's very interesting! They definitely seem to be dismissing IndieWeb tech.
# [cleverdevil] Well, at least Micropub / Microsub for example.
# jacky https://github.com/WebOfTrustInfo/rwot9-prague/blob/master/topics-and-advance-readings/ap-unwanted-messages.md is a whole doc about spam (or just unwanted content)
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[Raphael_Luckom] It's an interesting review of what's out there. I like that it has lots of links to other resources. I don't see much in the way of actually stating any position about any of it.
# [Raphael_Luckom] The brief note in the monetization strategy section that "Open access creates competition and makes it harder for any single application to establish a sustainable business model. Many decentralized projects run on volunteer work and donations. This funding method will not be covered." suggests either that they see that model as beneath consideration or that they considered it and decided that nothing useful can be said about it.
# [Raphael_Luckom] I would've really liked to see a discussion of their inclusion criteria--how they chose which things to review. When you start from a review of the existing stuff, your field is going to exclude everything and everyone who's been excluded from that ecosystem. I'd like to see a thoughtful discussion of that dynamic.
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# [indieweb653] chiragdi: I’m late to the game but I might be building something along the lines of what you are trying to achieve: By enhancing personal WordPress with my Friends Plugin, you can connect personal blogs among each other via friendship requests and in addition follow any website you like. So a bit of a mashup of remote authentication and feed reader. See https://wpfriends.at/ for screenshots etc. To remove the installation burden for its user
# [indieweb653] you can also host this on a WordPress MU (multiuser) install
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# chiragdi [indieweb653]: Interesting, I'll take a look
# chiragdi does this make use of activityPub?
# [indieweb653] For now it’s RSS + other parsers like JSONFeed, RSS Bridge or Fraidyscrape, depending on what you subscribe to
# [indieweb653] It goes back to “plain blogging” and ensures that your friends see your latest posts, although it has support for “post formats” so you’d have image or status posts separated
# chiragdi yeah, there's an interesting side topic that I haven't quite wrapped my head around:
# chiragdi Status posts / twitter type posts on a wordpress site. Should it live on your site? Should it be a separate app? Obviously its up to the individual and their needs, but I'd be curious if anybody has any strong opinions on different setups that work for their needs
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# chiragdi I have a blog. I wouldn't mind having my smaller status type posts living on the same system. But should it? What are the different use cases and considerations?
# [indieweb653] I personally like to keep my main feed clear of status posts and offer separate feeds for them
# cbradford[m] Has anyone played with this:
# cbradford[m] https://wordpress.org/plugins/activitypub/
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# chiragdi cbradford: I actually just installed that today
# cbradford[m] <chiragdi "cbradford: I actually just insta"> Any thoughts on it?
# chiragdi cbradford: Haven't had a chance to mess with it too much yet
# cbradford[m] <chiragdi "cbradford: Haven't had a chance "> Is the purpose to allow posting your blog entries to Activity Pub services like mastodon?
# chiragdi it is. And probably reading from them as well
# chiragdi so your blog feed would probably include items from other feeds? Again, haven't messed with it yet. I know for a fact that the use case you mentioned is probably the primary one
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[KevinMarks] Pfefferle is here some of the time, so may be able to help
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[pfefferle] sure! let me know if I can help 🙂
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aciccarello[m] Looks like the WP friends maintainer opened an issue to add Microsub support https://github.com/akirk/friends/issues/51
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# [timothy_chambe] ↩️ Hmmm interesting. Looking this over.