#indieweb 2021-03-19
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GWG This from one year ago makes me want to discuss again. https://david.shanske.com/2020/03/18/3309/
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[chrisaldrich] What is a forum?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "forum" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "forum is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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# [chrisaldrich] GWG, notifications for an On This Week would be much nicer than daily notifications which I've personally found annoying in Timehop (especially since they do multiple notifications within a day).
# [chrisaldrich] Maybe even better would be notifications for "on the week ahead", so you'd get advance warning of birthdays, anniversaries and other bigger events which you'd actively celebrated and posted about in the past.
# [chrisaldrich] I don't necessarily put the birthdays of my daughter's friends into my calendar, but seeing photos of parties from prior years is a nice reminder to tell her or other family members about. Photos/posts also have more sentimental value to inspire me to do something for anniversaries over the dry anniversary/birthday calendar entries that I know I _should_ do something.
# [chrisaldrich] usually no posts for birthdays, but often photo posts from parties, dinners, and other celebrations, which are obviously from birthdays and anniversaries, so it serves the same purpose.
# [chrisaldrich] Often with Timehop, I don't get around to looking at them until the end of the day and see things that make me remember events for which I end up calling friends or family about the following day to say belated XYZ.
# [chrisaldrich] Sometimes if I'm saying happy birthday, it's fun to have a link to a post from a past event to say, "Remember this...?" It's something I've done several times during the pandemic when we haven't bee able to go out to parties, dinners, etc, but can share and reminisce over the past and look forward to a better future.
# [chrisaldrich] If you have this coming week reminders, you can often plan anniversary posts for things as well.
# [chrisaldrich] Tantek has mentioned some examples of this recently here in thinking about the last time we did HWCs in person a year ago. If you don't get the notification until that day, you're more pressed to spend the time and attention that you might think it deserves to get it out on the day of the actual anniversary. If you've had the notification a bit in advance, you're helping yourself out.
# [chrisaldrich] If I remember, your implementation of OTD was flexible enough to specify almost any day, so if one missed a day, it was easy enough to look back. I suspect the functionality above could be used manually to do the week ahead functionality without requiring more work on the plugins part.
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jeremycherfas Day One would be fun for surfacing that sort of thing a week in advance.
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ramin hi
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# jeremycherfas It is a silo journalling app that has very good data export and Shortcuts support.
# jeremycherfas I gave up on it when it moved to a subscription model, but the truth is, for my use, it is worth it, so I got on board again.
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# doosboox What’s the IndieWeb community like, and how does one partake (in the absence of physical meetups)?
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# [chrisaldrich] I'm not all the way through yet, but this article on newsletters is _very_ IndieWeb in spirit and has some interesting guidance: https://tedium.co/2021/03/19/self-hosted-substack-alternatives-guide/
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[KevinMarks] what is a newsletter/
# [KevinMarks] what is a newsletter?
# Loqi A newsletter is a regularly scheduled email that is sent out on a specific topic to an email list https://indieweb.org/newsletter
# Loqi A newsletter is a regularly scheduled email that is sent out on a specific topic to an email list https://indieweb.org/newsletter
# [KevinMarks] newsletter << examples of how to run your own https://tedium.co/2021/03/19/self-hosted-substack-alternatives-guide/
# Loqi ok, I added "examples of how to run your own https://tedium.co/2021/03/19/self-hosted-substack-alternatives-guide/" to the "See Also" section of /newsletter https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=74942&oldid=74941
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# Loqi [indienews] New post: "One year of online-only" https://ohhelloana.blog/one-year-of-online-only/ (from https://aaronparecki.com/2021/03/19/22/)
# [chrisaldrich] What is context?
# Loqi context is everything around and about something, typically the nearer the more relevant, such as the graphic design surrounding a post, information around a post like the reply-context for a reply or its longer thread and previous discussions on the subject, posts by an author (perhaps of the same type) before and after a particular post, or conditions around a post like location, weather, date, and time of day https://indieweb.org/context
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# [chrisaldrich] I like how Ana's post has the additional context at the bottom including Mood, what she's doing, thinking, and listening to (presumably while writing the post). [Ana_Rodrigues]++
# [chrisaldrich] I don't see that often though I seem to remember some tidbits of context like that in LiveJournal posts. Does anyone else add this sort of /context to their posts? I know there are some of us that add weather and location. That page doesn't have much in the way of examples....
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# [Ana_Rodrigues] Thanks [chrisaldrich] ! I wrote about it here: https://ohhelloana.blog/mood-doing-thinking-listening/
# [Ana_Rodrigues] Slightly outdated now since I am setting them up in a different way now. But livejournal still uses it.
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# [jeremyfelt] I’ve started adding some now playing/now drinking/date started/date finished info to the bottom of my posts and then hiding it for unauthenticated users (in WP) with https://wordpress.org/plugins/content-visibility/
# [jeremyfelt] So.. visible to me context 🙂
# [Ana_Rodrigues] What is mood?
# Loqi mood is sometimes expressed explicitly in or about a post, by the post author https://indieweb.org/mood
# [chrisaldrich] That sounds somewhat similar to RSS Club https://daverupert.com/2018/01/welcome-to-rss-club/, but done in a different place/context. If you get a moment or have written about doing that you should put your example on the wiki page [jeremyfelt]. I think if more people knew about it, more would be doing it.
# [chrisaldrich] What is RSS Club?
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "RSS Club" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "RSS Club is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# [jeremyfelt] Oh, I like that! RSS only blocks!
# [chrisaldrich] I forgot Loqi prefers deeds that are dry-er. ;(
# Loqi ok, I added "https://daverupert.com/2018/01/welcome-to-rss-club/" to the "See Also" section of /RSS https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=74952&oldid=72790
# [chrisaldrich] There are definitely times where I want to add small tidbits to certain posts for family and friends that don't show up for the general public. That content visibility functionality could be fun.
# [chrisaldrich] We still need better ways for limiting audience or making some of these things more private.
# [chrisaldrich] It would be nice if I could let people log into my site with their own and then, perhaps doing matching (maybe with the old XFN friends data like contact, acquaintance, muse, family, etc.) one could allow them access to these sorts of blocks of content.
# [chrisaldrich] s/deeds/feeds
# [chrisaldrich] I'll stop there since I'm running up up against Loqi's filter and need to run an errand or two, but Kevin Mark's example using verification might be a simple way to do this from site to site in a simple way: http://www.kevinmarks.com/distributed-verify.html (we might move this to #indieweb-dev for those continuing it).
# [jeremyfelt] I like it. I’ve been starting to think through how to auto-verify commenters in a nicer way, this is helpful reading.
# alex11 filter?
# [chrisaldrich] if one can protect content within a post, protecting the entire post shouldn't be too much more work hopefully. The bigger question is how to do it more easily across sites.
# [chrisaldrich] Maybe worth stubbing out a pop up session for this? I'll pop over to #indieweb-meta and the calendar in just a bit if folks are interested.
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "ephemeral content" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "ephemeral content is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] ephemeral content is /expiring_post
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# [chrisaldrich] The academic in me feels that putting content into footnotes automatically makes it invisible to almost everyone to begin with. 😁
# onf[m] Hey im getting into the small web thing, learned self hosting, got my own website, and started to host workshop around my friends to share the fun
# onf[m] I just discovered indie web and id like to understand stuff such as micro formats or webmentions. You have ressources ?
# Loqi Get started on the indieweb by connecting with the indiewebcamp community, getting a personal domain, a place for your content, and setting up your home page and other indieweb essentials https://indieweb.org/Getting_Started
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KartikPrabhu onf[m]: welcome! what is your website URL?
# onf[m] https://eymj.fr/
# onf[m] I would like to learn good practices for this type of site