#indieweb 2021-03-31

2021-03-31 UTC
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[tantek] that's a good point neshpion, unrecognized jargon can potentially misimply things like nsfw
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[scojjac] i'm totally not making the connection, but i think i'm ok with that lol
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vilhalmer how _did_ microformats end up with the h- prefix? the others are mnemonics but the only thing I can find on the wiki is that h- is legacy
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vilhalmer sorry, that's probably -dev content
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neshpion should i have a * subdomain A record? or should i instead have a * subdomain CNAME record that points to www ?
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[jgmac1106] https://jgregorymcverry.com/myresume has metadata that works with IndieWeb tools
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[jgmac1106] (how to say h-resume in main)
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Loqi Greg McVerry
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[jgmac1106] But one should remember correct url
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[jgmac1106] Woefully out of date https://jgregorymcverry.com/resume
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aaronpk So the "notifications" tab on Twitter no longer respects deleted tweets
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aaronpk i refresh the tab and it still shows me a tweet that has been deleted
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aaronpk clicking it shows me the tweet and a note below it "this tweet has been deleted"
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aaronpk on iOS
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[tantek] interesting
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[KevinMarks] cache skew? I have seen deleted tweets in the stream that go away when clicked on
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[tantek] "eventually consistent" 😛
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[KevinMarks] @vilhalmer as I recall, we started with vcard and used hcard for html and then continued the pattern to hcalendar from icalendar
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[KevinMarks] then the mf2 changes made h- a general prefix
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[KevinMarks] ah tantek already said that in dev
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[tantek] KevinMarks yeah I took the convo there because it's dev trivia
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aaronpk also TIL you can tap and drag a tweet from the timeline onto the “compose” icon to start a quote tweet
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[KevinMarks] https://twitter.com/kevinmarks/status/1377263716325068802?s=20
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@kevinmarks @nick_clegg The ability to manipulate people by what you show them is what you sell to your real customers, the companies who advertise on Facebook. As @doctorow has pointed out this doesn't work that well, but you gather more and more personal information to pander to them. (twitter.com/_/status/1377263716325068802)
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[KevinMarks] thread
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[KevinMarks] not sure it's worth linking to indieweb pages about interop with FB/insta as they tend to be technical
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marinin[t] https://events.indieweb.org/2021/03/-hwc-09ReXTMBeU3M is live!
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Loqi LIVE NOW: Русскоязычный онлайн-HWC
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[Rose] Who is attending HWC Europe/London tonight?
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[tantek] when is HWC London?
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Loqi what
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[tantek] gives Loqi a say what one more time
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Loqi throws the say what one more time
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sebsel Oh, that seems like an hour from now
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[calumryan] HWC Europe/London starting at 7pm (BST)
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[Rose] Pandemic-versary edition?
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sebsel Now starting!
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[chrisaldrich] On the topic of Twitter respecting deleted tweets (or not) last night, a week ago I noticed an account, with a thread with lots of rich replies I was interested in, deleted itself a day or so later. (To be clear, the person deleted their entire account and not just the single tweet.)
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[chrisaldrich] I lost all the context of the original tweet, but in manually rebuilding the replies using search, I discovered that if I tried to embed some of the replies to the original, Twitter would return ALL of the data associated with the original tweet and the account which I would have expected to not exist in their system anymore.
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petermolnar > Pandemic-versary edition? - /me lets out a gigantic sigh
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[scojjac] [chrisaldrich] Interesting. I wouldn't really expect Twitter to remove anything from their system. 'It is much easier to mark something as deleted or invisible than to actually delete it' seems to be a Tech Bro Tenet.
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[tantek] Twitter has gone through a lot of rewrites and refactorings, sometimes improving things like that
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[tantek] anyone have a way to find a non-Twitter-hosted URL for this image? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Exxu6-6VoAY-m-H.jpg
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[tantek] it credits Washington Post but I've been unable to find an "original" at WaPo's own site
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[tantek] wants "original image discovery"
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[chrisaldrich] [tantek] it may(?) be coming from an alternate view/tab being generated on the page at https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/national/coronavirus-us-cases-deaths/
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[tantek] Hmm, I'd expect it to be at a 2021 URL at least
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[chrisaldrich] How about this: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/03/30/danger-fourth-coronavirus-wave-visualized/
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[chrisaldrich] the other URL/page is regularly updating (or at least updating everything except the date in the permalink)
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[tantek] thanks you [chrisaldrich] that worked! I found https://arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/PU6TGEYLB5FSLN6U5YZWY37VFE.png
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jacky [tantek]: I think tineye does that
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jacky https://tineye.com/
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[tantek] lol their no-JS error page is kinda cute
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[tantek] ooh that's a very cool search service. wondering how to document that ...
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